Ns 2.0 Alien Weapons Problems

AyumbharaAyumbhara Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20675Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Missing alien attacks</div> Whenever I play 2.0 as aliens, some alien weapons are not selectable and do not show up on the top part of the HUD, specifically the Onos #2 & 3 attacks and fade #2 & 4. I have reinstalled version 2.0 several times, redownloaded it, and it still is there. What can I do?

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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    /me grumbles please read the stikies (Atleast the tech help FAQ)

    ok, start a LAN game
    in the conn type:
    bind 1
    bind 2
    bind 3
    bind 4 (or what ever your wep select keys are)
    if you don't get back responses telling you they are bound to slot1, slot2, slot13, slot4 respectivly then there is the problem and simply rebind them

    else type these in:
    hud_fastswitch 0
    sv_cheats 1
    bigdig
    bind i givepoints (where i is an unussed key, spam it for rez)
    spawnhive (2 times after joining aliens)

    now evolve to the problem evolutions and simply press each key one time to see if they pop up, come back and give results
  • AyumbharaAyumbhara Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20675Members
    Nope, the attacks still aren't there.
  • devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Try playing on a different server, or get the server operator to update metamod,
    This sounds like a server problem if it stuck after multiple installs
  • SariselSarisel .::&#39; ( O ) &#39;;:-. .-.:;&#39; ( O ) &#39;::. Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18557Members, Constellation
    It is a server problem, particularly on one that I know of. I'm not sure exactly what caused it, as I am not a server technician. Check out other servers you can play on, and you'll find that the attacks are there.
  • VeNeMVeNeM Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 928Members
    its either the server or you just didnt see that your alien team had only one hive -_-
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited September 2003
    Ay, did you actualy go through all of my steps?
    did it actualy say that 1 was bound to slot1 and 2 to slot2 and 3 to slot 3 and 4 to slot4?
    were you able to select all the other attacks when you did this?
    if so, uninstall all mods and HL then reinstall HL, patch it, redownload and reinstall 2.0


    (/me pokes every one else, if he did as he said he has played on a LAN with 3 hives)
  • AyumbharaAyumbhara Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20675Members
    It only happens when I start my own NS server, if that helps.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    ay

    look mate, if yu don't help us out we can't help you

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    vs
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It only happens when I start my own NS server<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    cmon man, give us actual facts.....

    you are not being helpful, thus we can't help you

    tell me WHAT the results were from my test!!

    and in the meen time, DON'T TRY TO RUN A SERVER! lol, there is no need, there are planty of servers out there
  • AyumbharaAyumbhara Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20675Members
    Ok, if its clearer:
    I ran the tests, and everything was normal.
    If I try and use the previously said attacks, they don't change, and it doesnt show up on the top part that i have an attack there at all.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    what I would suggest doing is an full uninstall of allthings HL (HL, mods etc etc)
    then DEL your sierra dir

    then a full reinstall.
  • ElvenThiefElvenThief aka Elven Thief (ex. NS Programmer) Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8754Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited September 2003
    BEFORE YOU DELETE OR REINSTALL ANYTHING....
    update metamod.
    You've got an old version of metamod that didn't have the entities for the new weapons. www.metamod.org

    That or disable metamod.
    Otherwise, there should be no reason you're having these issues unless you installed metamod or adminmod (comes with metamod bundled sometimes-often old version).

    Onos #2 and #3 = Devour and Stomp. Both new abilities.
    Fade #2= Blink
    Fade #3=Metabolize <- this one should be failing
    Fade #4=Acid Rocket.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    ahhh haaa

    /me pokes the admin type...

    could you make a stikah with this info? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> (I know its gona come up again)
  • devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--QuoteBegin--E-Th33ph+Sep 11 2003, 01:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (E-Th33ph @ Sep 11 2003, 01:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> BEFORE YOU DELETE OR REINSTALL ANYTHING....
    update metamod.
    You've got an old version of metamod that didn't have the entities for the new weapons. www.metamod.org

    That or disable metamod.
    Otherwise, there should be no reason you're having these issues unless you installed metamod or adminmod (comes with metamod bundled sometimes-often old version).

    Onos #2 and #3 = Devour and Stomp. Both new abilities.
    Fade #2= Blink
    Fade #3=Metabolize <- this one should be failing
    Fade #4=Acid Rocket. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So wait, when he explained it, you accepted that answer..
    but when I said 2 lines about metamod being out of date you ignored it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    It was a common thread when 2.0 first came out, but its not really that common anymore
  • AyumbharaAyumbhara Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20675Members
    I'm just running a server when I get bored and I'm not online. I don't have a server always up, or metamod or admin mod.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    devnull, It made no sense at the time
    I figgured he was having this problem on other peoples servers and that it occured
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    (I had also not heard of said borked problem, I was kinda away during the release of 2.0 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
  • obsidobsid Join Date: 2003-09-16 Member: 20909Members
    I am a old player, been playing sense like 1.0. I play alot on many many servers and i got 2 problems with abilities not showing up. First off there is the serverside bug that happens every once in a while on some servers where i try to switch from swipe on fade to metabolize and nothing happens, ie i keep swiping. When i turn off hud_fastswitch or i use the mousewheel to scroll at that time it becomes clear that all my other abilities are there but that one is just missing. Totaly not there at all. This seems to be a server problem as it continues to happen on some servers and never on others. I have been told its caused by a old (or maybe current) ver of the metamod lerk lift.

    The 2nd type of problem is MUCH more annoying because it seems to be caused client side rather then serverside. This is when a select a ability like leap or some other ability and find that i cant use it. I bite and bite and no animation plays no sound plays ect. If i turn off hud_fastswitch at these times you can notice that the ability is red, as if i didnt have the required hives to do that ability. Clearly this cant be the case as some of these abilties are hive 1 abilities and i did spawn and have hives. This even sometimes happens at the hive 3 time and ALL my abilties are unable to be used. After some trial and error I have found that in this case the abilites really are being used and reconized by the server. ie if i bite someone twice they die even though no bite sound was played or animation. This also may be the reason that sometimes rines or skulks "seem" to make no sound when fireing/biteing. This is really not usualy a problem as you can still kill stuff, but its most annoying is that blink/charge/leap dont work. The energy bar drains but no sound/animation plays and i dont go anywhere. As a skulk killing yourself and respawning usualy fixes the problem, but as a fade it just wastes 50 res <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> and a non blinking fade sucks. I have also had it happen where i can blink and do other stuff for a while. Then mid game i stop being able to blink for some reason or some other ability doesnt work. I have also had times were i can leap/para/xeno but cant bite, or other wierd combinations of missing abilities. This has happened on many many servers and it doesnt happen all the time nor even usualy. I hope this can be fixed esp the blink/leaping/charge problem.
  • ElvenThiefElvenThief aka Elven Thief (ex. NS Programmer) Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8754Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Obsid: every server you play at that has those bugs, get a list of the plugins they're running. Most generally, I've yet to see missing weapons with the latest metamod/adminmod and /unstuck installed. Any game changing ones, especially with alien abilities are probably the culprits and either need to be removed/updated or the plugin authors need to be notified.
  • obsidobsid Join Date: 2003-09-16 Member: 20909Members
    Well after playing on yet another server without metabolize ("Bean-Net.Net - Clan [C.A.P] Offical NS V2.0 - Ashburn, VA - V2.01|24ms|69.12.68.52:27015"). I dont include the name of this server to bash the server in any way shape or form (infact i have played in it on many times), it is mearly an example of a server that metabolzise doesnt work in so that others can compare and we can find the problem. This server has 2.50.56 admin mod which i assume isnt the problem as i have played in other servers with that mod. The only other confermed metamod pugin is lerk lift 1.1 so i assume that this is the problem. Can others please test this and any server admins with lerk lift on 2.01 please remove it if this is the case.
  • zebFishzebFish Join Date: 2003-08-15 Member: 19760Members
    Yeah, I get this whenever I play single-player or with bots on a LAN game, and this was after a fresh installation
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