French People Suck
JNighthawk
Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8160Members
Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8160Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">And other useless racism</div> Why do people insist on coming into an English server and insist on speaking French/German/whatever, instead of finding a server that is for their language? It really irks me when someone speaks in English, proving they know English, and then switches to French for the rest of the game, including over voicecomm. It usually is a pair of players that came on the server together. Please, if the server is of a different language than you know, either don't speak (besides locations or items) or leave. I joined some European server (no clue what the language was), played for a few minutes and realized no one could understand me and I couldn't understand them. So I just went on with the game, following waypoints and using simple commands. Deal with it, or leave. Just don't fill someone's screen with useless jabber that no one understands. It's like an inside joke with 10 other people around. It's not funny.
That being said, this does NOT excuse racism! Don't say "French people suck" or "Danish people suck" or any of that crap! Advise them, warn them or ignore them. Hell, you probably won't even get their nationality right. If they're speaking French, they might be Canadian. If you're ignorant enough to be a racist, you probably don't know the difference between Swedish and Danish.
*sigh* And again, this doesn't give either side to act superior. Play nice, play fair, "keep a level head because no one likes an irrational teammate."
That being said, this does NOT excuse racism! Don't say "French people suck" or "Danish people suck" or any of that crap! Advise them, warn them or ignore them. Hell, you probably won't even get their nationality right. If they're speaking French, they might be Canadian. If you're ignorant enough to be a racist, you probably don't know the difference between Swedish and Danish.
*sigh* And again, this doesn't give either side to act superior. Play nice, play fair, "keep a level head because no one likes an irrational teammate."
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I have no problem with people who just don't know the language commonly used on the server, but people who prove them know it and just refuse to speak it are complete jack a**es.
and if they choose to try to inforce that people speak in their language, WHY DON'T THEY GET THEIR OWN SERVER. Insted of jumping in comm and med spamming randomly while some guy is hidden near the hive, ready to put up a tf and siege.
(On a side note: about the entire "Messed up Canadian French comment, I have nothing wrong with Canadians, I actually am Canadian. I just would rather that if schools are going to force me to learn a language, for it to be the REAL version and not some mulilated hacked up version that no real french person can understand <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> )
My best suggestion is for you to deal with it, you have to be extremely petty to even care. Who cares if people speak a different language, mute them.
If you want to make a point about griefing (in this case, speaking in a different language specifically to bother you), you can do so without the descriminatory remarks.
Edit: Either way, I believe I am just saying what others are thinking.
While inexcusable in it's own right, at least English is more or less the most widely-spoken language, not Yiddish or Swahili.
Banning helps taking care of those types of people <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Banning helps taking care of those types of people <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Surely that's more the problem that the person in question is a frickin' moron.
But i don't have a problem with people talking other languages, except for one fact. The server i play on regulaly is an English language only one. Anyone speaking other languages are asked, politely, to speak English, since it's only really polite. You'd be surprised that the only piece of English that some people know is "F**k U" and then continue to speak whatever language. Needless to say they're asked, politely, two or three times more and kicked in the end. This is because these people <i>always</i> end up commanding, don't know why or how, but on a server with 13 English people and 1 non-English, it doesn't seem like the best idea....
I generally stick to English servers, although before I had ASE, I didn't know which servers were English, so I did join the occasional German server (at least I know enough German to say "Sorry, I don't speak German").
On one memorable occasion I was shooting an rt and one of them was babbling something over the VC (obviously aimed at me), and I simply chimed in with "Ich spechen nicht Deutch" and he replied (in the strongest German accent I have ever heard) "Uh... o.k..... Use zer knife"
How hard was that? Although they could have been calling me all kinds of names and I wouldn't have known <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
*edit* Ok, went a bit O/T there, yes it is very annoying when people don't speak the server language, especially when they go commander. And I have also seen the infamous "foreign-speaking duo" who talk in a foreign language over the voicecomm ALL GAME! It would be bad enough if they were English, because they'd still be stopping me from hearing that skulk around the corner, but when it's babble that no-one else can understand, it is so annoying! AAAARGHH!!!!
Yes, yes, mute them, but I shouldn't HAVE TO. Their chatter didn't even sound game related, it sounded like casual chatter. And they were Spanish btw.... just so you know. *edit*
Hate to correct you, but you're wrong. A server is owned and operated by the server owner, just because you bought the game, doesn't give you the "right" to "paly" on any privately owned server. If Half-Life was only compatible with VALVe's own servers (Much like Battle.net) then i'd agree with you, but as it actually is, you're entirely wrong.
And because of the server's being privately owned and operated, they can enforce any rules they want, it's just your choice if you want to leave the server or not. Hell, there's a uk server out there somewhere which has the charming title "We ban f*gs". Rest assured their ban policy offends me, and i won't be playing there.
I love <a href='http://slashdot.org/' target='_blank'>Slashdot</a> humor.
How about a Beowulf cluster of these jokes?
There's nothing wrong with speaking different languages or preserving cultural traits but if you're not on home turf and in the minority either respect them and adapt or get the heck out of there <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
[j/k]rotfl, is there a specific reason why that offends you? [/j/k]
anyways, <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->maybe if we huddle uplike zees, they wont see us!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
jus some "football" (for u americans) ad mocking frenchies.
EDIT:I dont think flayra wod like the title of this thread <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> (look at stickied threads)
I love <a href='http://slashdot.org/' target='_blank'>Slashdot</a> humor.
How about a Beowulf cluster of these jokes? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
nah, used up all my energy on that last one.
so what im trying to say is, if you dont like someone thats in the same server as you dont abuse them just call an admin and see what he does, if the admin does nothing about it, then shut your little traps and keep on playing.
hell, i might make a server and call it *NO WHITE FOLKS ALOWED*
so what im trying to say is, if you dont like someone thats in the same server as you dont abuse them just call an admin and see what he does, if the admin does nothing about it, then shut your little traps and keep on playing.
hell, i might make a server and call it *NO WHITE FOLKS ALOWED* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1: Someone who owns a server has the right to make whatever rules they like, no matter how unreasonable. The bottom line is that if you don't like the way they run the server: leave. The only exception to this rule is official servers, which have a duty to their customers to have fair rules. If you want to make a server called "no white folks allowed", you're perfectly within your rights. It's your server and you can do whatever the hell you like with it. Understand that players aren't FORCED to play on servers which have policies they disagree with.
2: There's a difference between laying down language rules and racism. These very fora have a "speak English" rule. It's perfectly reasonable for server ops to declare that a server is to be one language only. People who only speak English typically want to play on servers where everyone can understand them, and they can understand everyone; I don't play on Japanese or Indonesian servers because I don't speak Japanese or Indonesian. There is a difference between segregation and being a fish out of water.
Most dutch people can speak english.
Yes they can, but it's common curtosy not to be a butthole. It's like with driving, you CAN pull out in front of people, or go 30mph in a 40 zone, but it's not very nice. The difference is in real life, you risk becoming a victim of road rage.
*edit* and they didnt pay for this particular game *edit*
I believe the author tried to make an apologetic position out of this thread when he coined its name, and gave it a description. Now it appears its become a focal point for a few racist teenagers and forty year olds who know nothing better then their own selfish rights.
But don't apologize before you commit the crime--it only makes it worse.
===RANT!===
I live in the United States as a free citizen of America.
I'am proud of what rights my fonding fathers have entailed me to and the soldiers who fight to preserve their very assurances. I show pride, strength, support, and a Patriotic Nationalism whenever my country calls for what I can give or what I may create to one day, strengthen the borders of Red, White, and Blue.
For whoever they face I will be their to face off with them--so that I can sleep one night, knowing my life has been written in preservation with the rights of life, and the rights provided by the United States constitution.
However, the rights they fight for not only exist for me, but others around the country; others around the world. A man should have the right to run himself, run his own goverment, run his own control and live in this respect--but a man should also have a right to speak as he chooses, to live as he may amungst his family and friends, pray or wed differently, or fight ways we may never understand the fight of.
It is there my country calls for me to standup for people oppressed simply because their either "American, British, French, German, Canadian, Russian" and so on. If my duty is'int to strengthen the Army or the writings of those pale hands of Uncle Sam, then it is my duty to strengthen the values of life for those all around me. Do I force it to be my mission? No. Do they force me? No.
Do I want it to be forced, or do I wish force to it? No. I help people who look different then me--I work together with those who speak with a different elaboration of the tongue, or who use different words. I help them live with their goverment, their control, and their own self-being. I do not force my views of Nationalism or Morality onto their souls, but let them carry on to only a point when my life is physically threatened with all proof supporting.
It is therefore that when a man who marries another man, a woman who speaks french, children who pray differently, or a family who comes from another part of this world comes to this country, I greet them with a smile and a handshake; a hug or a tear, to welcome them to our fine land and to tell them now: You can be yourselfs--worship Islam, believe in Catholicsm, or make your own belief system for now you are no longer in a "one-way world".
I however, dislike those whom racist, sexist, facist and their views threaten the very way I live. I will fight those who say "damn frenchies". I will fight those who say, "Women are our toys", I will fight those who will "**** should die, and everyone should believe in a one world goverment".
Those people come in many different types; some even carry the false imagery that they too are from the US or believe in what it does. They speak in the borders of red, white, and blue unopposed by other countries because we make sure he has a right to carry on his living--but we also have a right to stop it if he stops others.
But uncle sams hands grow tired; and old age sets in. The Flag is tinted bright from its glory in the sun, and the constitution runs dry of ink.
The facists, racist, sexest groups are wearing Lady Liberty down with sickness and age--it is only a matter of time before the insecure, self-centered, selfish oppressors of life take over the bells of liberty and crack them broken so they will chime no more.
So I stand still; ready today, with millions of others prepared to make sure our colors don't run, to make sure noone looks lady liberty in her eyes and brings her down, to make sure Uncle sam has his brew of patriosm in the morning. To make sure that I myself can one night sleep knowing everyone is safe to be as they may.
===End of Rant!===
If only people carried my spirits. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->