Natural Selection, Steam, And You

coil · September 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">a little update</div> I'd just like to let people know that Flayra released to the PTs the first test-build of NS tweaked to work on Steam. There are still bugs to iron out, but it's well on its way.

Oh, and the menu screen is sexy. (:

wRaven · September 2003

Will this be 2.0? or 2.1?

*glossy eyes of optimism* <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Shockeh · September 2003

n1 guys, it'll be good to not be alone on NS Steam anymore.

It's not like we get a choice over whether to change or not. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Any additional features under Steam specific to NS? (Maybe play the minigames in the Onos?) <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Paranoia2MB · September 2003

Hey Coil,

I'm a playtester too. How come I didn't get the Steam Patch Test?
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>
<eyes dart around room>
lol

HEAD-d_b · September 2003

has anything been done about the gamma problem?

ie: when you open the console the gamma is set way to high to read anything

Wither · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Sep 30 2003, 03:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I'd just like to let people know that Flayra released to the PTs the first test-build of NS tweaked to work on Steam. There are still bugs to iron out, but it's well on its way.

Oh, and the menu screen is sexy. (:  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Thanks for the update <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> Sounds awesome.

Forlorn · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Sep 30 2003, 04:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I'd just like to let people know that Flayra released to the PTs the first test-build of NS tweaked to work on Steam. There are still bugs to iron out, but it's well on its way.

Oh, and the menu screen is sexy. (:  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
When's it going to be released?

Shockeh · September 2003

Actually, should we post Steam issues with NS in Bugs, or should we put them somewhere else? (Like where the sun don't shine...)

Just wondering, because I've noticed that NS isn't fixing the gamma back to normal when you quit the game, as such I'm having to use Adobe Gamma to fix my system after every game.

Ph0enix · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Sep 30 2003, 11:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Just wondering, because I've noticed that NS isn't fixing the gamma back to normal when you quit the game, as such I'm having to use Adobe Gamma to fix my system after every game.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Use the 'reset gamma' shortcut in the start bar.

Silicon · September 2003

can't wait, as long as those game ending crash, popupmenu, sprite error and max_errordistance things are fixed I think NS is fine. (and yes I know there are unofficial fixes for those last two)

Stewie · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silicon @ Sep 30 2003, 06:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> can't wait, as long as those game ending crash, popupmenu, sprite error and max_errordistance things are fixed I think NS is fine. (and yes I know there are unofficial fixes for those last two)  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Endgame crashes ?? I have startgame crashes but never any endgame crashes.

MrMojo · September 2003

Good. Now I won't have to try and fix those things myself.

IceBaron · September 2003

Good thing, I was getting tired of playing the same four servers in Steam over and over again.

romano · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Sep 30 2003, 06:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Actually, should we post Steam issues with NS in Bugs, or should we put them somewhere else? (Like where the sun don't shine...)

Just wondering, because I've noticed that NS isn't fixing the gamma back to normal when you quit the game, as such I'm having to use Adobe Gamma to fix my system after every game.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
For now, just trust that the playtesters/vets will find and deal with all the Steam problems that you've been dealing with playing 2.0 with Steam.

We've already encountered (and possible fixed!) one endgame crash, and obviously noticed the console gamma problem.

So for now, just sit tight and wait for the release of 2.1, as talking about bugs that you have with 2.0/Steam is rather pointless, heh.

Epidemic · September 2003

Bug: After I've evolved I cant talk to my team (or anybody at all) and cant switch attacks

Shockeh · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ....just trust.... </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

*bites tongue. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

SjN · September 2003

omg steam :O

thanks coil for the update

Frikk · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Sep 30 2003, 10:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Sep 30 2003, 04:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I'd just like to let people know that Flayra released to the PTs the first test-build of NS tweaked to work on Steam. There are still bugs to iron out, but it's well on its way.

Oh, and the menu screen is sexy. (: </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
When's it going to be released?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
When it's ready? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

And yeah, my jaw fell the four feet to the floor when I saw that new menu screen. It's awesome.

TUNA_Anomay · September 2003

HURRAH!!!!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Rokiyo · September 2003

Ah sweet the popup menus are completely fixed then?

coil · September 2003

Not yet. But we're working on it! Kudos to Flay -- since Valve hasn't released any tools yet (*shakes fist*), he's basically shooting blind at how to fix things. But he's making progress.

0SdZ0Gectou4 · September 2003

so only ns-dev team coding steam...

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Pa1adin · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Sep 30 2003, 09:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Not yet. But we're working on it! Kudos to Flay -- since Valve hasn't released any tools yet (*shakes fist*), he's basically shooting blind at how to fix things. But he's making progress.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
impressive

Rokiyo · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Sep 30 2003, 02:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Not yet. But we're working on it! Kudos to Flay -- since Valve hasn't released any tools yet (*shakes fist*), he's basically shooting blind at how to fix things. But he's making progress.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yeah trying to dig through what the xxx_textscheme files still do and dont do as well as the effects of each skin's trackerscheme.res is a pain in the ****...

You fiddle for frikkin hours on end and you still get nowhere...

There are some old fonts from NS that are still working 100% fine (like the res counter for the commanders and marines, and all the scoreboard fonts), but I honestly can't figure out why steam decided that it would be ok to keep using those fonts as they were, and yet it felt that it had to change all the menu fonts etc etc to whatever it felt was best for the game...

Check out <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=48042' target='_blank'>this thread</a> for more details, saying that Flayra is shooting blind is definately a huge understatement...

CheesyPeteza · September 2003

I bet the new popupmenu is transparent. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

If you read this Flayra can you make it so that we can put commands in the popupmenu rather than just impulses? Please... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Majin · September 2003

I am so glad I haven't switched over to steam just yet.
But I have other problems.

My Cable modem is craping out with my new computer!
I miss my 30 ping.
Anything on my network is all fuxored. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'>
DAMN YOU ROGERS!!!

Sirus · September 2003

Please PM me your errorlogs if you would if you are having endgame crashes. I could use as much information and errorlogs as possible. Right now its a real guess and check game because many problems are pretty foreign as Steam is all pretty new.

Your errorlogs should be in your /(Email)/Half-Life folder. Thanks !

Epidemic · September 2003

Erhm, here's one <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Sirus · September 2003

Oops ! Let me be more specific. I need everything Ns, with a function trace along with it. Since I can't tell what the errors actually mean, I need the Function Trace or it doesn't do too much good.

The function trace will probably have a list of commands, or some kind of file that would point in the general direction of the problem.

Grimfang · October 2003

I have a lot of errorlogs looking like this. And my game crashes at the start of most games. I also have the nvolgnt.dll crash with HL.exe

Error:CFileSystem_Steam::GetLocalCopy() failed with error: SteamGetLocalFileCopy failed with error 105: Access denied, errno 13 "Permission denied"

Function trace:
SCR_UpdateScreen
SCR_UpdateScreen
SCR_UpdateScreen
SCR_UpdateScreen
SCR_UpdateScreen
(And so on)

Here is another:

Error:CFileSystem_Steam::GetLocalCopy() failed with error: SteamGetLocalFileCopy failed with error 105: Access denied, errno 13 "Permission denied"

Function trace:
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Thunder_SpeeD · October 2003

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Natural Selection, Steam, And You

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