A bit of false advertising on xfr's part.

JedisarJedisar Join Date: 2002-03-03 Member: 264Awaiting Authorization
Their orginal Advert claimed that the server could be for any mod...However, after talking with the guy giving out the server, it turns out not only could we only install one mod on it in the three months, but we weren't allowed to install any mods that may be created in those three months..

Not only that, but they were unable to tell me any information about the server, except that it might be in either the west or east cost.

It took me nearly three days to finally get this information, and I'm sorry I could not gather it earlier..

To put everything bluntly, what XFR advertised was not what you would have gotten. The server itself would have been largely unusable for many people, thus I decided it would be better off if we just withdraw from this competition.

However, I am proud of the number of people that came to support NS...Over 100 differant people supported NS at some time in the day. 50 of these people stayed steady for two days. 20 stayed steady for all three. I am glad to see that your love of this mod is such that you would support it in anything, any way. Perhaps, one day, we will be presented with another chance to help NS. I know that, when that day comes, I can count on you all to be standing up there with me.

Thank you for the support Shown, I am deeply sorry that it did not yeild anything, and you have my deepest apologies.

-Jedisar

Comments

  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    I, too wish this could have been fruitful.  I am just sorry that I couldn't bw there to support NS.
  • JasonBostwickJasonBostwick Blossom Join Date: 2002-04-14 Member: 444Members, NS1 Playtester
    Well, this is a mixed bag.
    I was happy, like Jedisar, to see the support we had for the mod. On the other hand, I was <b>VERY</b> disappointed with the way many of the people with "NS_" next to their names were acting in #xfr. I'd made the wrong assumption that the majority of the Natural Selection community were mature, responsible people. I guess it just seems that way due to the fact that on our official forums and channel, we don't see much bad behaviour because the ops and mods are quick to respond and stop it.
    Seeing some NS fans in an unrestricted environment, though, was a great shame. Suddenly, they became the exact kind of people that we pride ourselves as not having in our community, spamming the #xfr channel with lewd messages, acting with complete disrespect towards other users, and generally being complete idiots. Really, I think the whole thing gave NS a bad name to the 200 other people in #xfr, and by the end of it, mention of NS would bring a slurry of comments like "NS sucks, stfu" from the other idlers.
    Now, I'm not blaming everyone who had NS_ next to their names. Some upstanding members of our community had attempted supporting the effort. But there were some people that ruined it for everyone. Shame to see that happened.
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    Wow.  I'm shocked.  I thought noone in this community was like that.  First that release date thread and now this?
  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    Boz?  I ideled a lot in there, rarly spoke (the only thing I said was @request metal Elton John - Candle in the wind, as a joke) and didnt see any of that.  I noticed one guy telling NSers to STFU, but he was mad becuase NS was winning.  I dont know what you're talking about boz <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->)

    But then again, I rarly looked in that channel.
  • BillBill Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1108Members
    Well, in the people who acted immatures defense, IRC does tend to lower ones intelligence significantly.  Sucks that there was a catch though, I was in there for awhile as NS_atari but I checked awhile later and I was no longer connected for some reason.  Nice to at least see that a community for an unreleased mod still came together to try for the server though.  <!--emo&:0--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'><!--endemo-->
  • JasonBostwickJasonBostwick Blossom Join Date: 2002-04-14 Member: 444Members, NS1 Playtester
    OK, not everyone with NS_ on their name was being rude, and it wasn't a 24/7 occurance, but on some of the times I checked in the channel, I saw some very nasty things. I'm sorry if I gave some people a wrong impression, but I was in quite a bad mood when writing that post.
  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    I too saw some pretty bad stuff, and fought (successfully) to keep it to a minimum or non-existance while I was in there, but as I'm on a non-dedicated 56K and share it with three other people... *shrug*

    Part of the problem is it's IRC, and part of the problem is that from what I saw, everyone -else- in the channel was pretty bad... Especially since we outnumbered people by about six to one. I listened in on one of the radio stations, during some 'important announcement' and heard that basically, a lot of the DJ's are unhappy and stuff... I'm not entirely sure this was a bad thing, 'losing' the contest. It didn't seem like the best place or the best people.
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    Yeah, but we did "naturalselectionify" many, many, MANY people that are checking out this mod that werent before.

    I peeked my head in to see who won, and 3 gamers accepted the glory of NS.

    We should just show up-en masse in the biggest IRC servers in gamesnet, and just... tell people about the mod...

    Hell, it'd give us something to do, i played frisbee golf for an hour today, and then sat on my ### and played HALO.
  • ElowindElowind Join Date: 2002-03-06 Member: 279Members
    whats this? it sounds like a playtest with 100 ppl?
  • TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
    No elowind, it was some kind of contest to get a dedicated NS server on release, I think, but I wasnt involved

    I'd be shocked too if people I respected started acting like morons and children. Part of this goes to show how lucky we are to have mods as good as they come
  • JammerJammer Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 728Members, Constellation
    From talking with Coil on IRC, it seemed like the XFR people were irked that a non-clan was winning the contest. Techinally, this was for a clan. We 'created' the clan NS which included all forumers. Kinda cheap, but legal. I can understand the animosity to ns.
  • CollateralDamageCollateralDamage Join Date: 2002-07-15 Member: 949Members
    There is no such thing as bad publicity.

    It would have been interesting to see how XFR would have reacted to NS_ winning the contest. The endeavour was cancelled too early.

    No gaming community will ever be "mature". How could it be, it consists primarily of teenagers. The current maturity level is superimposed artificially by strict oppression and will not uphold.
  • LongdaleLongdale Join Date: 2002-08-19 Member: 1191Members
    Heh... the peeps from other clans were much worse. They'd go in our "clan" channel and mock us. Oh well.. Too bad it didn't work out. But we had some fun times... and annoying times. Yeah we were pretty bad in XFR and we did outnumber 'em a lot.  <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
  • GobyWanGobyWan Join Date: 2002-02-22 Member: 234Members
    I think that this community is mostly mature, or at least not hostile or stupid. If you want bad, look at where the Firearms community has gone since 2.6. Straight to hell.
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    yeah, Goby here is a fellow firearms refugee... Since their only real active moderator left, the forums are %110 and talk of homosexuality.
  • Rico1Rico1 NS Oldtimer Join Date: 2002-05-24 Member: 664Members
    Dang, i was kind of hoping that we would uset hat server for NSF  <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->

    Oh well, such a sad thing that some of the NS fans are total llamas. I myself did see someone with the NS tag spamming the xfr channel with some HUGE colored text. The sort that takes up the whole screen...


    Maybe next time.
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