Russian Roullet

DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
Well, it was'nt a dream i had long ago in August, it was actually Russian Roullet, and as i thought it was not a illusion.

Looked real to me, but what are your thoughts on Magicians such as David Blaine and Derren Brown doing stunts like these for no apparent reason other than publicity?
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  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    ok, so he survived. big deal

    If they were doing it for something other than the publicity, they would go to some secluded location with just a few first aid staff. Of course its for the publicity. that is the only reason.

    and the money.

    dont forget about the money
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    What are we talking about?
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    It was touch and go for a while, but he did pause for 3mins...
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    When he paused i thought he **** the stunt up, but then he went crazy and shot some by stander, loaded the gun and went on a killing spree, then got a plane...


    Well.. Not quite.

    He paused and then shot a empty slot at himself then at the bag.
  • nightdragonnightdragon Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11848Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Oct 5 2003, 04:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Oct 5 2003, 04:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What are we talking about? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1. David Blaine getting into a stupid box for 44 days and nights with no food and only "water"
    2. Derren Brown playing Russian Roulette for TV

    These are both really really STUPID things to do, and its all for the publicity/money

    But to be perfectly honest David Blaine is an idiot for choosing London. He gets stuff thrown at him and obscenities yelled at him, if hed have gone to Times square you can bet he'd be praised.

    ND
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--nightdragon+Oct 5 2003, 10:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (nightdragon @ Oct 5 2003, 10:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But to be perfectly honest David Blaine is an idiot for choosing London. He gets stuff thrown at him and obscenities yelled at him, if hed have gone to Times square you can bet he'd be praised.

    ND <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's too damn true. While i've got nothing against what he's doing (whatever way you look at it, he's entertaining others by hurting himself), the way some people have been acting has been giving us British an bad name (or a worse name, depending on your views).
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    So... he's an illusionist? And people are upset that he's doing his tricks?
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    he didnt think he had messed the trick up... hes a showman, that was showmanship.
    heres how it went.
    6 chambers, 1 bullet.
    so after an hour hyping the actual event, and a good deal of dramatic suspence, he puts the gun to his head, fires the first time in a exagerated manner, another pause and he does the same again;fires a second time. Then he points the gun at this dummy target and fires, no bullet in that chamber, oh dear thinks the audience, hes messed it up. Not so, just an excuse for a massively overcooked 'will he, wount he' moment, after which he fires one chamber at his head, and the last at the dummy in rapid succession.
    no need to say he knew the chamber was correct before he fired the first bullet, hes no fool. it was kind of entertaining i guess, and at least i wasnt horribly scared for life by watching a live suicide <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited October 2003
    wait a sec

    magician:
    some one who does tricks/stunts as a way of living

    so magicians are BAD now?

    WTH?

    btw, blaine already did a stunt in time sq as I remember (or some where in NYC I tihnk it was)

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    And as for illusions with guns?
    Penn and Teller have one where Penn fire a marked (by audiance member) bullet at teller through a glass windw. And he then catches it in his teeth
  • LukinLukin Join Date: 2003-08-23 Member: 20098Members
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Oct 5 2003, 04:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Oct 5 2003, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> btw, blaine already did a stunt in time sq as I remember (or some where in NYC I tihnk it was) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He was in Ice in Time Square.

    I don't care for this "Stay here for X amount of days" or cheating Death. I like the small stuff Blaine usually does.
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    yeah, for anyone who didnt see it....
    it was less of an illusion, the gun was loaded.
    it was more a matter of his faith in his own psychological reading of his assistant.

    (still i swear to god i could out manuver darren, forget double bluff, or tripple bluffs, ide bluff him on a prime numebr based sequence, just to make sure he dies.. *ahem* anyways)....
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Oct 5 2003, 05:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Oct 5 2003, 05:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I like the small stuff Blaine usually does. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yep, one trick in particular I liked. He'd asked them to take a card out of the deck, then put it back in, shuffled. Then threw the deck of cards at a glass window and the card that the guy had chosen was sticking on the other side facing him. Eerie.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited October 2003
    yah, blaine is a great close up magician (my fav type)

    watching him do coin and card tricks that I KNOW is simply amazing.

    His patter (dialouge that he usses), he always plays calm and seems kinda stoned. Thus his tricks often come of that much better ;P


    yah, whenever streat magic comes on I sit down and watch ;P (honestly seen it like 5 times ;P)
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    I love impromptu magic too but I think blaine should've stuck with it... the endurance stuff is just kinda =/

    As for people annoying blaine while he's in his box, it gives the english a bad name, not the british as far as I'm concerned <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    well, he does em both.

    The endurance stuff is kinda the:

    "hey look at me I am a Magician, and these are the OTHER things I do (go buy my tape)"
    its a publicity stunt, he probably didn't make any money off of it.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Geminosity+Oct 6 2003, 01:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Oct 6 2003, 01:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> As for people annoying blaine while he's in his box, it gives the english a bad name, not the british as far as I'm concerned <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Want to know why? Nobody actually cares about David Blaine. He's just some American (Or wherever) magician who's come over to do some stunt. He's not even actually that popular over here at all, and especially wasn't before he started this stunt.

    The only reason i can see for him choosing England is trying to sell himself to the English market.
  • PanzerOxPanzerOx Join Date: 2003-04-22 Member: 15754Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Oct 5 2003, 08:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Oct 5 2003, 08:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> His patter (dialouge that he usses), he always plays calm and seems kinda stoned. Thus his tricks often come of that much better ;P <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's the weed! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Street magic is pretty cool, I'll watch when I can.
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Apparently he hadn't performed street magic until the tv show. Apparently.

    I have to say I like David Blaine, because he goes down to the sort of underprivileged areas and turns tricks. AFAIK he also gives out money to people.

    I think it's great for people to see something interesting in their life, and all the better if they're in a rundown area where you never really had the magic of childhood.

    Sure, his "big" tricks are lacking in lustre, I'll concede that, but on the whole I think he's an ok bloke.
  • JefeJefe Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15734Members, Constellation
    I like one of his street tricks where he hits the camera lens with a card from across the street.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    the catching bullet in mouth trick is just him firing a blank, then the assistant has a bullet in the mouth already, or puts it in the mouth or something.

    the glass has explosives rigged to it.
  • homerxhomerx Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15094Members
    I think that a good sum of David Blaine's street magic is well, you know, scripted.

    I'll try to enumerate his "tricks" as I remember them.

    - The reviving of the fly.

    Its a trick, if you put ice on a fly, it will sleep. If you make noise (snapping a finger) it will wake up.

    - The rotating arm.

    My brother can do this easily, he says all you need are long sleeved shirts.


    The other tricks, where the card goes on the other side of the glass is scripted IMHO, just like the rest.

    The part where he "guesses" what the person is thinking is bull----, how can we know that that was what the person was really thinking?


    I'll post more as soon as I remember them.
  • LukinLukin Join Date: 2003-08-23 Member: 20098Members
    They almost always use a muzzle loader for that trick.

    The ram the bullet down into the gun, but the ramming rod has a magnet on the end and the magician just slides it out. He slips it into his mouth when he "is struck by the force of the bullet"
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    I think most people are fully aware how the tricks work.

    Its just the childlike joy of seeing them performed in front of you.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Well people do know it is a trick yes, but not knowing how its being done, that's whats captivating.

    Or unless you're really really um... stubborn I guess is the way to put it, and you insist its supernatural magic.

    I have a friend who believes David Copperfield is not an illusionist, but actually made a pact with satan to obtain black magic.. Yeah. He's a little odd.
  • NessNess Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10935Members, Reinforced - Onos
    You guys forgot? David Blaine won the "Biggest Douchebag in the Universe" award. He even beat out a giant douche.
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Necrosis+Oct 5 2003, 08:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrosis @ Oct 5 2003, 08:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have to say I like David Blaine, because he goes down to the sort of underprivileged areas and turns tricks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i just get the image of blaine whoring himself in the ghetto...
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    Wouldn't it have just SUCKED for that guy if he pulled a Brandon lee and shot himself in the head by mistake.

    David Blane is a Douch.
    If I recall he won biggest Douch in the universe!
    And Stan got his own show!
  • XzilenXzilen Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11642Members, Constellation
    I personally find it stupid.
  • TuBeLTuBeL Join Date: 2003-09-16 Member: 20928Members
    It wasn't David Blaine. Jonathan Edwards won the Biggest Douche in the Universe award! and I must say I think he deserved it. Edwards is much lamer than Blaine. I actually find the sleight of hand Blaine does to be fairly entertaining. FOr those of you who don't know, Jonathan Edwards claims to talk to audience members' dead relatives on his show. It's really fake, and I feel bad for the people who go on the show actually believing they are talking to thier loved ones. It should be illegal to decieve people like that.
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