Why Do People Pretend Not To Speak English?
Hunty
Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19244Members
Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19244Members
<div class="IPBDescription">A infamous excuse.</div> Do people really think that by pretending not to speak english,their lame actions ingame will be excused?
Its terribly strange when i see people from singapore(below 50 ping),or malaysia at most,pretending not to speak english when they do something stupid such as save for onos the whole game,then die instantly to shotties,or keep trying to kill the hive with a knife.How did they manage to get through at least 6 years of education if they cant speak/understand english...obviously,they CAN,they just choose to use it as an excuse for lame behaviour.Then there are the people who speak english one moment,then the next they are pretending to be from china or korea or thailand....with a ping of 35,all this while trying to comm without communicating with the marines or repeatedly building OCs in range of seiges.
Its the "talking to the wall" strategy.If they keep quiet by pretending not to understand english,people are less likely to harrass them longer for their lame actions.
Its very interesting when we have 4 or 5 gorgs at start,and i think "good job we will have 4 rts up at least and maybe some chambers" but 5 minutes later we are still at 1 rt because all,yes,ALL the gorgs spammed OCs all over the map instead of getting the rts and the marines happily have 5 electrified rts.......and when i try to ask them WTH they are doing,they either keep quiet or start talking in fake korean or chinese(its very obvious they ARENT korean or chinese,the standard of the korean/chinese they are speaking is atrocious).
I noticed the "i no speak english" excuse is more prevalent in asian servers,as well you can fake it there better,as asian countries usually have english at a lower importance than mother tongue,compared to america and europe where english is usually at an equal level.
Hands up to anyone who have noticed this excuse being used on their servers.
Its terribly strange when i see people from singapore(below 50 ping),or malaysia at most,pretending not to speak english when they do something stupid such as save for onos the whole game,then die instantly to shotties,or keep trying to kill the hive with a knife.How did they manage to get through at least 6 years of education if they cant speak/understand english...obviously,they CAN,they just choose to use it as an excuse for lame behaviour.Then there are the people who speak english one moment,then the next they are pretending to be from china or korea or thailand....with a ping of 35,all this while trying to comm without communicating with the marines or repeatedly building OCs in range of seiges.
Its the "talking to the wall" strategy.If they keep quiet by pretending not to understand english,people are less likely to harrass them longer for their lame actions.
Its very interesting when we have 4 or 5 gorgs at start,and i think "good job we will have 4 rts up at least and maybe some chambers" but 5 minutes later we are still at 1 rt because all,yes,ALL the gorgs spammed OCs all over the map instead of getting the rts and the marines happily have 5 electrified rts.......and when i try to ask them WTH they are doing,they either keep quiet or start talking in fake korean or chinese(its very obvious they ARENT korean or chinese,the standard of the korean/chinese they are speaking is atrocious).
I noticed the "i no speak english" excuse is more prevalent in asian servers,as well you can fake it there better,as asian countries usually have english at a lower importance than mother tongue,compared to america and europe where english is usually at an equal level.
Hands up to anyone who have noticed this excuse being used on their servers.
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Lock please?
'Cause I, as a Singaporean, think that this issue is not *exactly* about *i no speak eng*, its about *i no speak*. Thats the trouble. Too many people fail to say ANYTHING throughout the entire game, thinking that if they don't say anything, no one would notice them dying as an Onos 5 secs after they Onosed.
This is plain stupid, at least if you said something in the beginning like "Im saving for Onos" and later on, if you die because of a mistake/dumb move, you say "Im sucking today, sorry for the wasted res", people would actually KNOW and REALISE that YOU realise your mistake, and they'll forgive you after a few lines of "... What did i tell you about saving?"
So his post is not exactly irrelevant to European/US/Australian servers etc etc., just that the the statement should be regarding people who keep quiet in general hoping that when they make a mistake, no one would notice.
IF somebody joins our server, jumps into the chair, builds 5 CCs at Marines Start, everybody is like "Was soll der Mist du Idiot?!" ("WTH you moron?!") and he responds "Sorry, I don't speak German"... I don't care if he speaks German, he will get a 1-week-ban.
If people want to be lame, they will be lame, until an admin stops them (usualy by kicking/banning).
There are German Lamer, US Lamers, French Lamers, Chinese Lamers, and so on.... and they play on Servers all over the world.
Whether their excuse is "Don't speak <enter languge here>", "Sorry I'm drunk" or "My little brother was playing, now I'm back at the keyboard" doesn't matter.
Lock please
That is so over-used <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Loxxor!!11
What if someone else (i.e. little brother) was at the keyboard at the time, being lame, won't you grant him a second chance at least?
And people that ask a thread to be locked because THEY don't agree should be temp suspended.
Now I do know that there are many NS players who don't speak very good, if any english. Some of you might be shocked to learn that not all people are forced to learn english in non-english speaking countries...
That being said though, yes while it is easy to use language barriers as an excuse to be lame that doesn't neccesarily make them more lame than english speakers. It's an ever increasing trend in NS that shows our true human nature, where we focus on the end result rather than how we got there. So instead of playing in a manner that you will enjoy, you will play in a manner that will let you win. In 2.0, res hoarding got you lots of kills and helped you win the game. It might have made the game short and repetitive, but hey atleast you won right?
The next, separate, issue is that when a new version of NS comes out, it takes pubbers a long time to adjust to the new strategies need to play well, and so people stay for many weeks using strategies that worked well in the old version but don't work anymore.
These two problems (means to an end, and strategy lag) when combined together produce the "lame" results we are seeing now, where res hording aliens get blown apart just as fast as the guys who go gorge and dump their res ASAP, generally producing unenjoyable alien games. The res hoarders see that res dumping isn't working, and so keep doing the only other strategy they know of that worked. The res dumpers, having been more team oriented by nature, are slowly coming about to the new strategies required, but the results of their experiments get obscured when their half their team is trying a different strategy, so progress is slow.
These problems are really quite unavoidable, so unfortunately you only have 2 options for now: Try another server or learn a new lanuage.
24% German, god dam*it! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
How about the excuse "Sorry, my sound isn't working!" when nobody's using voice comm.
I feel for u on this one, I am From Scotland, Initially from the north, english not being my first language, I find it EXTREMELY hard to understand proper English people on servers, Americans i understan fine, Irish too, french and german speaking english, fine also, but actual English people.. they have the funniest accents in the world, it has to be said <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
woot that means I can bash french people chinese people and Americans! Maybe not Americans, but possibly <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
When peoples languages dont agree, the teamwork wont work as well. Deal with it.
woot that means I can bash french people chinese people and Americans! Maybe not Americans, but possibly <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can bash british people, german people and polish people but Id rather bash americans and canadians <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
IN RTCW i learned all the german words and what they meant in english over the course of several months.... when i heard german i knew what it meant...
Twice now ive played on foreign language servers, not talking much, maybe havin one person who spoke english and the language on that server, i DONT COMM, even if im good there is a communication barrier there that should not be broken... however after 3 hours i was able to function fairly well, learing not what the phrases MEANT, but what they "meant" i could function based on what was in team chat. voices i had a problem with due to accents and dialects and what not, but i learned what words to look for in team chat that seemed to stand for RUSH, ATTACK, some room names, PHASE, stuff like that....
Try it sometime, after about 3 hours you WILL know the language, even if you cannot speak it...
~Jason
It is highly interesting when i see this guy,carrying on a conversation in average english,than suddenly he goes "i no speak englsh" when someone askes him to gorg for rts instead of saving for onos.
People abuse the fact that they are from countries like Taiwan,Thailand or Korea to lame,giving the excuse that they do not speak english(although a substantial number of them CAN and HAVE spoken english before in the server...) and thus should be excused from saving for onos all the time,turret farming immediately from game start or using bugs to win/gain an advantage.
It is also damn interesting how people spam this thread to gain post count....
Heh french servers say "speak french" in english.
IF somebody joins our server, jumps into the chair, builds 5 CCs at Marines Start, everybody is like "Was soll der Mist du Idiot?!" ("WTH you moron?!") and he responds "Sorry, I don't speak German"... I don't care if he speaks German, he will get a 1-week-ban.
If people want to be lame, they will be lame, until an admin stops them (usualy by kicking/banning).
There are German Lamer, US Lamers, French Lamers, Chinese Lamers, and so on.... and they play on Servers all over the world.
Whether their excuse is "Don't speak <enter languge here>", "Sorry I'm drunk" or "My little brother was playing, now I'm back at the keyboard" doesn't matter.
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wait don't lock
maybe move to off topic
i have a question
do germans abbreviate their language online? Spanish do. I'm interested in what changes.
Someone really needs to work out a proper method of communicating written Chinese and Chinese influenced languages over online games.
woot that means I can bash french people chinese people and Americans! Maybe not Americans, but possibly <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can bash british people, german people and polish people but Id rather bash americans and canadians <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think Nemesis meant you had to be 25% of that nationalitys population (right?, wording is quite unclear)
Well do you think people learn english just to speak on english servers? I know I'm not going to learn German just to play on German servers.
If you don't understand the language of the server you're on, you have no authority, that's it. Eventually ask nicely, but yelling "OMG NUB LEARN ENGLISH ITS NOT HARD" or "OMG ARE YOU PEOPLE TOO STUPID TO SPEAK ENGLISH?" won't get you anywhere and won't get an enjoyable game. If you can't speak the server language, either leave or live with it without bothering them (don't talk, <i>try</i> to help etc..)
Wheee, I can bash the English, the Irish, The Australians (I have the passport darnit!) and a several assorted others depending on how you quantify your 25%. GG Mongrel boy.
I usually find telling the 'non English speaker' (I.E Only the fakes ones) "Well, shame you won't understand that I'm about to kick and ban you for it eh?" and mysteriously, their language skills pick up. Who'd have thought eh?