Tsa Marines...obsolete?

Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Monkeys with brain implants were trained to move a robot arm with their thoughts, a key advance by researchers who hope one day to allow paralyzed people to perform similar tasks.

A series of electrodes containing tiny wires were implanted about a millimeter deep into the brains of two monkeys. A computer then recorded signals produced by the monkeys' brains as they manipulated a joystick controlling the robotic arm in exchange for a reward — sips of juice.

The joystick was later unplugged and the arm, which was in a separate room, was controlled directly by the brain signals coming from the implants. The monkeys eventually stopped using the joystick, as if they knew their brains were controlling the robot arm, Duke University researcher Miguel Nicolelis said.

"Three of us were in the room watching the monkey late at night, and all of sudden the monkey just dropped the joystick and started playing the game ... the monkey just got it that she didn't need to move the joystick," Nicolelis said.

"We couldn't believe it, it was almost like the monkey was telling us, `Believe me, I can do it.' ... She was very happy; she was very enthused about the fact she could do it." The second monkey also stopped using the joystick.

The work was reported Monday in the first edition of the journal PLoS Biology, a free, peer-reviewed scientific journal published online by the Public Library of Science.

The Duke researchers had previously wired the brains of monkeys to allow a robotic arm to mimic motions made by the monkeys when using a joystick or reaching for food.

Humans have already been implanted with a similar device that allows them to control the movement of a cursor on a computer screen through their thoughts. The implant used in the monkey work, however, is smaller and the task accomplished was more complex.
 
The Duke researchers have now moved onto researching similar implants in humans, and Nicolelis said he is more optimistic about the prospects for use in humans.

"It could do a lot of things, wheelchairs, computers, prosthetic arms, perhaps their own arms," Nicolelis said.

Appliances, remote objects in other locations in the house and robots all could be controlled, he said.

"It really opens the possibilities, and it reduces the amount of time. Previously, I had thought it might be five to 10 years before we could apply this to humans. I'm getting more optimistic now, I think in a couple of years we may be doing the real clinical trials."

The implants remained in the Duke monkeys for 2 1/2 years showing they can be used for extended period. Over time, the monkeys' brains adapted to treat the robotic arm as if it was their own limb, Nicolelis said.
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Looks like the Marines are about to become outdated by feces hurling monkeys...with robotic strength for hurling feces.

Comments

  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    Holeee crap. So now we have robots controlled only by our minds, but WHERE IS MY FRIGGING JETPACK!?
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    holy f***ing sh*ts. that is the coolest thing ever.


    robotic strength for hurling feces XD

    i think i'll put you in the book ^_^
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Bionicy. Should be interesting for those who can afford it.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    w00t! I'd love to try this out while drunk! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    hmm...

    looks interesting
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    Mojo Jojo will rule teh world!
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    One step closer to VR. The brain can already speak to a computer - now we just need a way for the computer to speak back and we're set. This should make music as easy as humming a tune. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    holy... I want to be a monkey now <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    yay, I go in the Gold Forum Quote book!

    Yeah...where's Monsieur Evil when we need his sharp-wits for this?
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    Dern teenangster monkies with their brain controlled watchamacallems sipping on their banana flavored sunnyD.
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    i dont even know why this experiement happened!

    they already knew you can control things by reading brain waves!
    ive even seen footage of a guy sitting in a small car with a laptop and headgear criving it around with his mind.

    why the hell did they link up monkeys to it?!

    cept, you know, for like... fun...?
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    maybe because monkeys are cool
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    Um uh... *cough cough* smokenova is making this up, ... um yea its just a joke, yea

    *breaks down and sobs*


    ok i cannot lie its all true! TRUE I SAY

    please dont take our jobs away and give them to monkeys!!!


    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ElectricSheepElectricSheep Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15716Members
    Saw it on Netscape it was cool but I didn't post it. Didn't seem important yet...
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+Oct 14 2003, 01:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Oct 14 2003, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yay, I go in the Gold Forum Quote book!
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Gold Forum quote book? Whassat then?

    Anyway, I want a mind-controlled arm to do my bidding, that would be cool <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    *edit* Uh, well technically I guess I already have two of them, but a third would still be nice <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> *edit*
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    how long until enitre armies of 'battle suit monkeys' are let loose on society?!
    the power and precision of human technology combined with the primal instincts of monkeys!

    well, maybe....


    but then again, what the hell other practical application does this have?!?!
  • PanzerOxPanzerOx Join Date: 2003-04-22 Member: 15754Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+Oct 14 2003, 01:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Oct 14 2003, 01:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Looks like the Marines are about to become outdated by feces hurling monkeys...with robotic strength for hurling feces. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    don't forget pinpoint accuracy.

    We'll finally win the war agenst the kharaa!
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    Look at Zig's sig - the Natural Selection Forum book of Gold Quote's, I think.


    Ohnoes! the monkeys are invading!
  • docchimpydocchimpy Join Date: 2003-07-19 Member: 18266Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Melatonin+Oct 14 2003, 02:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Melatonin @ Oct 14 2003, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> how long until enitre armies of 'battle suit monkeys' are let loose on society?!
    the power and precision of human technology combined with the primal instincts of monkeys!

    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I was going to say exactly that. Except with giant robots

    *cough*Evangelionexxceptnotwithgiganticorganicbeings,insteadgiganticrobotsyoucontrolwithyourmindandyoudontneedthatfunkyliquidstuff*cough*

    Sorry, must be the pnemonia kicking in.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    Pretty cool, to bad it's probably expensive as ****. I want a Robot Arm! [If I lose mine that is.]
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    remember back to when you were a kid, and thought about trying to move parts of your body with your mind alone?

    it would be weird to have a robot arm...
    i think too much anyway...
    what if not thinking about moving it was enough to move it?!
    what if thinking about thinking about moving it was enough?!?!

    *god, my arms acting up again, hope i dont poke my eyes out... whoops*
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    I'd control mine to freak out like Tetsuo.
  • ShootBangShootBang Join Date: 2003-06-11 Member: 17209Members
    A mind controlled robotic arm?
    Now its only time until we can control giant robots!!


    Everyone run for your lives!!
  • Fl4THeAdFl4THeAd Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18587Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--PanzerOx+Oct 14 2003, 02:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (PanzerOx @ Oct 14 2003, 02:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> don't forget pinpoint accuracy.

    We'll finally win the war agenst the kharaa! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yea, if someone had it so he could control the cursor, he would probably be the best fps gamer.
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    and a very good fighter!

    Sorry, late night, posts make no sense.
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