This Proves It

CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Humans ARE inferior life forms...</div> Read <a href='http://www.lunarrealty.co.nz/core.lasso' target='_blank'>This</a>

Done?

Now read <a href='http://www.spacefuture.com/archive/lunar_real_estate_buyer_beware.shtml' target='_blank'>This</a>

And tell me that your faith in mankind is unswavered.

I honestly cant believe that people would go so low, or be so stupid. The lust for ownership of a PLANET is so thoroughly ridiculous...

Wait, not ridiculous, just disgusting.

Whats next? Does the pope have a claim on Jesus?

Whats to stop me from saying "I BAGS THE SUN!!!" and charge everyone a generous energy tax, since all appreciable forms of energy come from the sun.

Better yet.

I now lay claim to the genetic code of Man! Yep. Because you are all members of the human species, you now all belong to me, your continued existence robs me of oxygen and space, therefore, your continued existence will need a generous taxation.

I also claim all the planets orbiting Alpha Centauri. Anyone whom travels there will be trespassing and must pay damage reparations.

{Sigh}

When will people realise that "Owning" something intangible devalues it?

Heres an example.

Lets say we bring shakespeare through to today. He realises his work has been published everywhere. Now lets say he imposes a "Reading fine" to be payed to his descendents. His work is cheapened and devalued. Though they may be great works, the same enjoyment is not derived from it.

What about mars? If they happen to find life crawling under someones lot and the guy says "KILL IT!!!" I really want to know what they will do.

This might be old news or not, but recently (like, 20 minutes ago) a guy came on the radio actually pedalling this stuff in a serious tone.

For some reason, I tend to think that the moon is far more valuable then the sum price of it's surface area. I think it belongs to all mankind, and that selling portions of it, or any other extra terrestrial body, cheats mankind of it's rightful share.

What are your thoughts?

Comments

  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    edited October 2003
    If people are that stupid to buy land on something they will never touch... it simply means someone was smart enough to recognise the 'stupid idiot' market niche.

    I think about the only real thing you can do is name a star for a price.... seeing how there is a few trillion stars out there.... yeah...
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Ahahahaha. Anyone who thinks they can buy lunar real estate is an idiot, and deserves what they get.

    Far from diminishing my already-low faith in humanity, this has reneewd my faith in humanity that most humans are incredibly stupid <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    There is another end to the equation... think about the guy on the other side, exploiting the stupid

    awesome <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    From what I can see, you don't need a deed to settle an area of the moon. You do need a spacecraft, some way of getting it there and sufficient technology to allow people to survive in a Luner environment.

    As for selling moon real estate as the paper says, unless you can actually get to the property and establish some basis for ownership, you don't own it. Hence, if you could somehow prove that the Sun was your property, you theoretically could charge everyone a massive energy tax; providing of course you had some way of turning the sun off if people didn't cough up <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> Otherwise you'll just get ignored.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    You can just imagine some aliens on mars selling bits of the earth to each other. Then they come down and reposses your house saying they have owned this acre of earth since thier great grandfather got it as an 18th birthday present
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--eediot+Oct 14 2003, 04:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 14 2003, 04:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There is another end to the equation... think about the guy on the other side, exploiting the stupid

    awesome <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hackers are experts in exploiting stupid. Why stay in a server when its hacked up? Stupidity. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    Hackers? Servers?

    What?!

    The only thing i can think of what you mean by 'hackers' is 'cheaters'.... This annoy me muchly! haha

    But still, i'll spare you the essay
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CommunistWithAGun+Oct 14 2003, 06:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 14 2003, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--eediot+Oct 14 2003, 04:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 14 2003, 04:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There is another end to the equation... think about the guy on the other side, exploiting the stupid

    awesome <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hackers are experts in exploiting stupid. Why stay in a server when its hacked up? Stupidity. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    *ahem*. <a href='http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/c/cracker.html' target='_blank'><i>crackers</i></a>, not <a href='http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/h/hacker.html' target='_blank'>hackers</a>.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    Actually guys, this isn't quite as dumb as you might think;

    Buying a plot on the moon will never be significant to you. However, to your great great granchildren, when the Moon may be a popular spot to be, and land is just as valuable up there as it is down here...

    "And our descedants will say, DAMN! I wish I coulda bought a piece of the moon for so cheap...!"

    Never underestimate the importance of owning a piece of land.

    The only other types of people that thought owning land was a rediculous idea were Native Americans.

    However, I'm not sure I'd buy some Moon property unless I had a lot of money to blow off. Talk about a long term investment. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Oct 14 2003, 11:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 14 2003, 11:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Whole post <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    I can hardly say that this shakes my faith in the human race. Not that my faith in the human race is particularly small or anything, this is simply expected. I'm with Inf all the way here. There's an abundance of gullible people around, and it is to be expected that smarter people will always find new ways to scam money offa them.
    New rule I say: First to set foot upon it owns it. Moving away is forfeiting ownership, so the moon's still up for grabs. I'll be in me yard building my "moon ownership" rocket. And if you want the sun, be my guest. Remember the asbestos gloves though - cancer will be the least of your problems anyway.
  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    How the dealers claim that moon is theirs to sell? Or how can they say a planet is legally theirs? I mean...wth?
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    ok FINE they own a peice of the moon
    make a law that says they can only own land on one planet
    make a clause in the law that states that earth is secondary to all other lands
    ship them off to their respective properties

    sit back and watch darwinism in action
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    some people believe buying moon land is worth something today, some people believe in a god that can't be detected, hovering over us... yeah, a lot of people <i>are</i> gullible... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> (you can tell which board I just got through reading)

    let's say these moon claims are legit, as of today; let's say it's true you can honestly, at least in words, own a piece of the moon. If the moon were ever colonized, no one would respect those claims anyway... the 'moon owners' would have to take the government to court, and chances are, they would be dismissed as victims of a scam...
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    Three dots to resume this story:

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  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    I wish I had a plot of moon land. I'd open a moon landscaping business and make golf courses on the moon.

    Hey, if they can sell the idiots moon land, I'm pretty sure I can sell them moon landscaping. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Infinitum+Oct 14 2003, 09:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Oct 14 2003, 09:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Infinitum's ignorance <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Who says I'd buy it through this cockamania website?

    You fools are simply talking about buying a piece of the moon. A hypothetical situation. Real estate is worth billions.

    If I could go back in time, I'd buy what is now the state of California for less than 20 million, and I would be a multi-billionare today.
  • Hida_TsuzuaHida_Tsuzua Lamarck&#39;s Heir Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 79Members, NS1 Playtester
    I suspect it isn't as much as "OMG I own a piece of moon" as much as joke product as in "Geez, Bill would get a good laugh out of this as a birthday present." I sometimes buy RPGs books not to play but simply to read for example (a good example is a Mage:TA book I got for $10 so I could read its well-liked magic system).

    I'm more worried of the people thinking "I've lost all respect for humanity" rather than thinking "why would someone buy such a thing?" I could say the same thing about the constellation system of NS (people are so gullible as to pay money for a free game!) rather than ask why (as a means of encouraging Flay to work more for NS and show their love of NS to others).

    As for ownership of moon and other properties, there is some value to that. It'll add incentives to moon colonization as people will try to get value out of their investment. However deciding ownership (i.e. who owns what) and regulation would be trickly if doable. If there ever is moon colonization, it'll have to be done anyways.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    Screw that, I'm getting me a piece of the Sun.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    What's wrong with it? It's a smart Idea to get stupid people to buy nothing and they become rich. Look at the Pet Rock for example.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    <a href='http://www.origamiboulder.com/' target='_blank'>origami boulder</a> > pet rock!!
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    i would love to own a plot on the moon, but the problem is who to validate the ownership with. you need to proove you own something against those who want to take it from you. we have the US govt to help us back up our claims that our houses are ours, so gangs cant take them, but who will help you defend your plot ont he moon? no one. whoever gets there and puts guns on it first will own it. and then your little 60$ peice of paper will be worth nothing.

    if the 60$ peices of paper have the backing of the US of A, i would buy it because i trust they will enforce my ownership when they take over the moon. too bad they only have the validation of one crackpot webpage.
  • ShootBangShootBang Join Date: 2003-06-11 Member: 17209Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DiscoZombie+Oct 14 2003, 07:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Oct 14 2003, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> origami boulder > pet rock!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    WOW, a wad of paper being sold for $10.
    almost as funny as someone selling parts of the moon they don't own to random people for $25 and acre

    if stupid people feel like blowing their well earned money on stupid things
    I just have to find something stupid
    that's cheep enough to make
    that i can sell for a major profet
    and people feel like they want.

    I know, I can sell "Famous" peoples hair on e-bay for $100 a peice

    I hate stupid people
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ShootBang+Oct 14 2003, 05:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShootBang @ Oct 14 2003, 05:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DiscoZombie+Oct 14 2003, 07:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Oct 14 2003, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> origami boulder > pet rock!! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    WOW, a wad of paper being sold for $10. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    To bad it's fake as a mof.
  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    ...My aunt bought her husband one of those for his B-day.

    Looks like the Stupid Gene runs in Sid's Family.. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    You didn't think humans were inferior before this?


    Get with the program!
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