Ffs Crash ! Help Plz !

beetle_juice101 · October 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">NS crashes after every game ! HELP PLZ !</div> OK I hope u nice guys wil be able to help me here, so lets take a DEEP breath and i'll give you the info.

<u><b>I am running NS 2.0 on STEAM</b></u>

After a game is over and I am sent back to the READY ROOM the game CRASHES !!! I have followed pratically every instruction and program on this forum and it is still happening <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

<u>Here is some infomation on my system:</u>

<b>CPU</b> = Intel Pentium 4 CPU 1.70GHz, 1694MHz,

<b>RAM</b> = 512MB DDR .:. Usage: 233/512MB (45.51%)

<b>GFX</b> = NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 64MB, <u>(LATEST DRIVERS) </u>

<b>DISPLAY</b> = 1024x768/32bit/85Hz

<b>SOUND</b> = CREATIVE LABS Sound Blaster Live! Value (LATEST DRIVERS)

<b>OS</b> = Windows XP Home Edition, Service Pack 1 (5.1 - 2600)

<b>HDD</b> = 34.7GB/74.4GB

I have aslo fully uninstalled NS and reinstalled and uninstalled Steam and reinstalled.

Are there any programs that my help? And files, huds or configs?

Could it be a problem with my system or drivers?

Could it be a RAM problem or cache problem?

Does my HDD need compressing?

I really hope someone can help as this is really annoying me now !!!

PLZ HELP !!!

CHEERS

PS - I have a picture which shows the crash and info on the technical problem ... except I don't understand it, plz view the picture !!

Depot · October 2003

I simply don't see why a COMPLETE uninstall followed by a fresh install wouldn't fix this. The majority of people who uninstall STEAM don't delete ALL the necessary files nor do they go into their registry. View <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=18&t=51198' target='_blank'>this Topic</a> for comprehensive uninstall instructions.

beetle_juice101 · October 2003

Yeah cheers but that the topic i followed when uninstalling and reinstalling ...

Cheers anyway ....

Here is another picture of the error ... I hope some1 can understand what it means.

curlydave · October 2003

And how does this fix the problem?

Reinstalling steam will not fix this bug. Just disconnect after the end of every game and reconnect after a few seconds. (make sure you do wait a few seconds or it will crash after you join again.)

beetle_juice101 · October 2003

Yeah thats a good idea but can get annoying. I dont really want to be doing that after every game is won.

Although I have found out this :

If I choose a team really quickly in the READY ROOM after each game is won it won't crash. I dont now how this stops the crash but it does, the only thing is I cant always join a team quickly (BLOCKERS) and NS will crash.

Any other ideas ?

beetle_juice101 · October 2003

Here is the dxdiag.txt file of my computer system. I dont know if this may help but I hope it will !!!

Dihard · October 2003

Download the beta ns steam from the public beta forum; I think it fixes this problem.

curlydave · October 2003

Hmm, do enough people play this beta to get some good games going?

spinviper · October 2003

No but wait for 2.1 when ns switches to STEAM ONLY!!!!

beetle_juice101 · October 2003

Well I have COMPLETELY uninstalled STEAM and NS. And then reinstalled STEAM with NS 2.0 Steam BETA.

WISH ME LUCK !!!

romano · October 2003

This is an issue with not only NS/Steam, but other mods w/ Steam.

In the current 2.1 Steam Playtest build, we are still getting this error, and have yet to find a solution.
For now, just live with it, as we are doing. Hopefully someone (either NS devs, or Steam devs) will find a fix for it. Until then, update your nVidia drivers, and hope for the best.

Cheeseh · October 2003

I always get NVOPENGL crashes when Im the first player in to join marines, I dunno why, in disassembly I can skip the next line or something and it runs fine again...

beetle_juice101 · October 2003

OMG !!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> THE CRASH HAS GONE 4 EVER ..... YAAAYY !!! THANKS EVERY1

TBH that NS 2.0 Steam Beta sorted it so cheers !!!

BUT WAIT ....

I know get the occasional new error .. lol !!!

The game crashes to desktop saying something about 128 hud sprites ... any idea or posts on this b4 ??

Mista · October 2003

<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=18&t=40115&hl=crash&st=75' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...&hl=crash&st=75</a>

Happens to alot of people and alot of the time an uninstall and reinstall doesnt work.

ZONK · October 2003

So how do you fix it ? I tell you i have seen about every mod and this one has to have the lowest ammount of fixes for bugs and crashes... i getting tried of crashing, i will join when game ends and walk 1 minute and rejoin and it still crashes sometimes, it pain in **** and going to prevent anyone from wanting to play this mod that is new.

Depot · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZONK @ Oct 28 2003, 10:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> So how do you fix it ? I tell you i have seen about every mod and this one has to have the lowest ammount of fixes for bugs and crashes... i getting tried of crashing, i will join when game ends and walk 1 minute and rejoin and it still crashes sometimes, it pain in **** and going to prevent anyone from wanting to play this mod that is new.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Keep in mind these are STEAM issues.

mAlfunkti0n · October 2003

that nvoglnt.dll file looks like it belongs to your nvidia drivers.
you may need to physically delete some nvidia driver dlls, they may be corrupt and may not be getting replaced.

beetle_juice101 · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mAlfunkti0n @ Oct 29 2003, 01:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> that nvoglnt.dll file looks like it belongs to your nvidia drivers.
you may need to physically delete some nvidia driver dlls, they may be corrupt and may not be getting replaced.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
U are definetly right ...

That nvoglnt.dll is a Nvidia driver or something. I have a Geforce 4 MX-440 64MB with latest drivers.

Come come plz explain to me how to remove this corrupt .dll, as I dont really wanna mess anything up and go poking around with something I dont fully understand.

So how can I safely remove this file and these drivers?

Plz help !!!

beetle_juice101 · October 2003

ITS OK PPL

I worked it out myself .. removed corrupt file and driver .. replaced with most up-to-dat nvidia ones ...#

BUT STILL THE CRASH !!!

AARGGHHGHG !!!

mAlfunkti0n · October 2003

Well, as a tech, im always up to doing a reload on the OS <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

beetle_juice101 · October 2003

no no no

aint goin that far ...

i will have to wait for 2.1 ...

if it sill crashes well jump off a clif tbh

ZONK · October 2003

Yes most of them are steam problems supposedly. But I play every single mod right now out there. Since Steam started i saw a chance to play every mod i didnt play, before i only played TFC and CS. Now i play DoD, others and NS. NS is the only one having this much problems from my view, I havnt had any problems with others at all. but yes those were from a steam download, maybe once NS gets it is own cache it will run very nice and look pretty menu :-p <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'>

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> ZONK

mavric · October 2003

yes but dont forget steam dont realy support 3rd party mods IE they dont give a rats butt wethere it works or not so why should they help us poor gamers to fix these small problems.

I am working on this problem form evey angle poss and so far i have found that it happens to people playiung STEAM CS as well as NS so i think it dose lie iin the laps of the STEAM Techs.

I have searched through 100s of pages on furms and not one have found a good fix for it yet but i tell u this alot of people that do has this problem are using XP with Nvidi cards and ATI cards running it on opengl.

you can try to run it in win 98/me compatability and zip your nvoglnt.dll and try playing again.

it might help for a bit but. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'>

(ONE DAY YES THEY MIGHT JUST GET ROUND TO TAKING THERE FINGERS OUT OF THE STEAMING ARSES AT STEAM AND FIX THE BUGS) <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> sorry for laugauge and spelling

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beetle_juice101 · October 2003

LOL nice speach .... guess will just have to wait then ...

TY !

mavric · November 2003

Just a update for u lot i changed my graphics card to a new Gforce Bloody monster 3 128mb FX 5200 and the problem is not as persistant now but it still is there.

I seem to find it happens on one map more that the others when u connect to this map I have HLSW working in the back ground and it says on map validation 34 out of 36 spawn portels are there.

(hummm could be a error in the map build that pics up somthing via steam ans it cant cope with the calculations and crashes people)

I might just be picky but i only trying to help and find the problem.

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Hayato25 · November 2003

I don't know if this is the same problem, but I noticed that after a while when I play on servers and the round ends this SOMETIMES happends. I jump into the ready room, I chose the team I want to join and then there is a map change. I see the loading on my screen and then... this screen pops up saying "The program Half-Life is not responding". So I am forced to End Task. Is this the same error? Is anyone else having the same problem? If someone can tell me how to fix this problem it would be much appreciated. Thanks

Alphas · November 2003

I have the sstupid nvoglnt.dll crash too and that NOT due to the deriver, I had reinstall the newest drivers.

It an issue with NS only, CS, team fortress play fine, only natural selection beta or no beta crashes EVERY map change. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

mavric · December 2003

More info for u i have found on our NS server when the server is full i.e. 12 players and the map changes 8 out of 12 players crash out with the nv error but if there is only 6 plays on the server no one crashes out on map change.

could it be server overloading or map erorrs

devicenull · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (curlydave @ Oct 25 2003, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Hmm, do enough people play this beta to get some good games going?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
The steam beta is compatible with ns2.0 - its just a fix for steam problems, and doesn't add anything extra.. I suggest everyone with steam get it

Xiile · December 2003

<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=31&t=49430' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...ST&f=31&t=49430</a>

^ Go There ^
Use that installer to install Natural Selection 2.0. It will install NS to Steam, in an addition, it will resolve a whole lot of Steam Related bugs like the error spamming you have there.

billcat · December 2003

I've gone there, and I've installed that installer. Doesn't seem to help this issue. I can play NS just fine and I don't have any steam errors/issues till the end of a game and reload time, after that, hard lock hang, reboot the box time.

2k, nvidia(latest drivers) gf3 128 vid ram, 512 sys ram.

Using the reconnect command after each round seems to be the only workaround I've found so far, having to remember to do it gets old however.

Ffs Crash ! Help Plz !

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