A Great Way To Kill A Fade!
Kr3w-Sm0k3y
Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21663Members
Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21663Members
<div class="IPBDescription">It's easy and effective... :)</div> NOTE: YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FADE YOU ARE UP AGAINST DOESN'T HAVE ACID ROCKET AND YOU MUST HAVE JETPACK!
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This morning, I was playing some NS. It was my friend and I versus these two other guys. I was comm and the first thing I did was focus on getting us good weapons and dropping only one res tower because it was a 2 on 2 game. I got us HMGs and Jetpacks because I think they are more effective than Heavy Armor. Very soon after, a fade came to our base. I noticed that the fade didn't even have acid rocket because he didn't shoot it at all. After I made sure, I went at him with HMG and Jetpack. I shot him many times, but the other guy was gorge and put up DCs and used healing spray on him. The fade kept doing the same thing: Attacking and retreating. Once he came in the next time to attack, I cornered him and stayed about 1 meter away while attacking him with my HMG and flying around him. I thought this was a really effective way to kill them. I know most of you probably know this, but I'm a newb. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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This morning, I was playing some NS. It was my friend and I versus these two other guys. I was comm and the first thing I did was focus on getting us good weapons and dropping only one res tower because it was a 2 on 2 game. I got us HMGs and Jetpacks because I think they are more effective than Heavy Armor. Very soon after, a fade came to our base. I noticed that the fade didn't even have acid rocket because he didn't shoot it at all. After I made sure, I went at him with HMG and Jetpack. I shot him many times, but the other guy was gorge and put up DCs and used healing spray on him. The fade kept doing the same thing: Attacking and retreating. Once he came in the next time to attack, I cornered him and stayed about 1 meter away while attacking him with my HMG and flying around him. I thought this was a really effective way to kill them. I know most of you probably know this, but I'm a newb. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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i think you mean retreating. retaliating is a counter attack.
You can't fly around a blinking Fade. And if the Fade doesn't use blink, he isn't difficult to kill with just standard equipment.
Remember, swipe has a VERY short range, shorter than a skulk bite, so unless your up against
the god of fades, CIRCLE STRAIFE LIKE MAD!
Trust me, he'll be down to 1/3 life before he even decides to blink away or stop to track you down again.
This also can be pretty effective against skulks in mid-close range.
the god of fades, CIRCLE STRAIFE LIKE MAD!
Trust me, he'll be down to 1/3 life before he even decides to blink away or stop to track you down again.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I suppose that means me and most regular Fade players I play with are all "gods of Fades".
Oh! So <i>that's</i> how you do it!
the god of fades, CIRCLE STRAIFE LIKE MAD!
Trust me, he'll be down to 1/3 life before he even decides to blink away or stop to track you down again.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I suppose that means me and most regular Fade players I play with are all "gods of Fades". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ditto <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Just wait for the next patch then youll see fades going dow nreally quickly, as the hitboxes make them quite hard to kill, at least when using an LMG
3lvl shotgun blast, directly on a fade leaves the fade with 95hp and a little bit of armor. Can anyone say "Shoot him again" ?
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Once rines realize this fades are not so tough....
it is kinda like the ono's kill boxes hidden on their sides and butt
EG: <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> lmg pistol knife <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <-- skulk bit far away
<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> lmg knife <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->
because if the kharaa is close the pistol might not be so good because the enemy usually strafes and with knife u might get few hits to that dervsih that go around you like mad <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Oh btw mines?Jesus what is the deal with people insisting mines work against onos/fades?I mean GOD if the onos/fade is dumb enough to hit the mines,you could just kill them with a normal squad of marines!You must be playing on the wrong servers where nearly every onos/fade you see is completely blind and missess those mines......
If you are in a large group, or even a small group, it is ideal to "box" the fade in - or simply - to block his exit. If the Fade can't escape to heal, it is dead. I have helped in the demise of a Fade by standing in a doorway, even though I knew it meant death, simply so that my team would have enough time to finish him off.
For me, when I fight, I do thus: I unload a pistol clip into him first. Pistols hurt a lot. Then switch to LMG. If you are skilled with the knife, you're welcome to attempt to charge him, but chances are you will die because the Fade can Swipe you easier than you can cut him.
After unloading some ammo into him, the Fade will probably be doing one of two things at this point:
1. Trying to kill you with Swipe.
2. Running away.
If you're unlucky enough to have SCENARIO 1, here is a key thing to remember: Most Fades I have fought have difficulty manuvering. <i>Dance</i> around him. Try to stay out of range. Do not back up (you move too slowly), do not run in a straight line (too easy of a target for Blink, which in essence means Swipe). Go in <i>circles</i>. You will live longer. Jump, do anything to avoid the Swipe and give yourself time to unload and reload. At this point, the Fade will probably be doing one of two things, which is, killing you or running away.
If you're blessed with SCENARIO 2, here is a key thing to remember: Fades run away when they are in fear of dying. <i>Chase after him, and reload in the mean-time.</i> Fades do not expect the marines to follow, especially if it's one on his lonesome. At this point, you will either kill the Fade from behind, or you will be forced into another encounter and you'll end up at Scenario 1.
Of course, there is always the lovely SCENARIO 3, where a Skulk will come at you and eat you while you're on your mission. Bummer.
Hope this helps, and best of luck.
You just have to suprise him while he is doing the thing that he can do best.
Killing elec rt's.
If you hear a fade hitting a elecrt near you, don't run there sneak there.
Sneak up behind him and wait some time.
The elec will take his armor down and you can unload easy a full clip from your lmg/pistol in his back to bring him down.
Killed a few fades this way and it's allways funny as hell ^^
Works sometimes even with good fades cuz they think "Uh when there is a marine coming i will hear him and just blink away when i'm too low on hp/armor"
If he doesn't hear anything he feals save and will just keep hitting that elecrt.
You cannot chase fades.It is impossible.They simply use blink.If he doesnt use blink,its a newbie fade and can be killed the moment it tries to take on a squad of marines.And most fades i find,have absolutely no problems whatsoever hitting LA marines.
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We had a situation where they were attacking us and shiz, we got HA though so no real problem. A fade is annoying us though, by blinking in, and circling the room(this in ns_lost) and then getting out.
The third time he tries to do it though, I'm shooting the entrances with nades, and he get's hit in mid-blink(not before or just after he got in, he already spun around us once and flew right into the nade lolz). He... survives... gah... but he runs out of energy, and falls...
[R.I.P. sign]Fade
Fade killed self with item_mine
Poor guy 8)
It varies from person to person. Yes, they DO Blink away, but since they don't expect you to follow, they usually don't go far. Often they go far enough away to simply heal out of the way. That way they don't have to run all across the map.
I never said it was EASY to kill a Fade with light armor. On the contrary, it can be exceedingly difficult. If your commander is dropping you some medpacks and ammo, though, it can be done. I'm merely giving suggestions for those who may not be in a position to have shotguns or cannot lure the Fades into mine traps.
If all else fails, the Fade should be pretty hurt at least.
You are however quite right in the idea of boxing a fade in. Fades are so deadly because they can blink in, kill one guy, then blink out to heal. Even with only 3 guys firing, fades use this tequnique. So, the best thing to do really is to have one guy hide at an exit not firing, then when the fade retreats have him hop out and hammer down with his weapon. I have a 7/10 rate of sucess with this one. The times when the fade does manage to get away are when he notices the rine and kills him, notices him and flies above his head, or he is running off to some other emergency that is more important, and still has large amounts of health.