Which Steam To Download?

ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
edited November 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Althru i dont like it one bit...</div> ...i decided to give it another try, i gone to www.steampowered.com and tried to download Steam, but theres many of them versions, and they are all big, which one to download & is it necessary to download such huge files?

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  • jacksonjO4jacksonjO4 Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11613Members, Constellation
    There is a small (500kb) installer floating around somewhere (not on steampowered.com), but whatever you download you still have to get the cache files.

    If all you want to do is play NS, then you need the Half-Life cache. This comes with the HL cache already there, and the others can be downloaded later as you need.

    I personally recommend getting the full cache if at all possible, it will save a lot of time later on if you want to play extra mods, but if you're after a quick NS game, all you need is the HL cache.
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  • TechenTechen Join Date: 2003-05-15 Member: 16340Members, Constellation
    I chose the install with Half-life and nothing else. (I think thats the minimal amount you need for NS.) Not sure. I don't play CS or DoD so I don't need those other mods.
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    my steam just died on today's update and I can't get it back up <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    You need the HL cache version to play only HL (or NS) the CS version if you want to play CS and HL, DoD if you want DoD and HL etc..

    Get the full version to get all the games.
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    Ok, thanks, i will get the HL only one. Dont like CS or DoD.
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    Woot, i have 22% downloaded

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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    22% of which download? The install, the update, the platform update, the preparation to play, compiling, game launching? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    Now 54% of downloading the installation file, i decided to download the biggest one, after all i now have connection without time tariffication and for some time yet without data limit.

    The other things you mentioned, the update...game launching etc., the last one scares me, it sounds like launching the game takes long.?. Scary.
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    just about half an hour once you get the file, I'd say. If you don't get any problems <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    Surely you meant only once, not every time when i want to start hl.



    Have you? (getting really scared)
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  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    If you have the latest version of the WON system HL installed, get the small installer file. It can get most of the files out of your old directory, so you won't have to download as much.
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  • mr_spammymr_spammy Join Date: 2003-11-02 Member: 22215Members
    isn't ther like a full installation file like cs 1.6 and stuff ?
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    No, some people have had problems with Steam, doing idiotic things like ALT+F4ing it, or shutting it down from the process list. The 'half hour to start' thing is when you do this, it confuses Steam so it has to check all of its cache files for completeness and corruption. If you right-click on the steam icon in your system tray and choose 'exit steam' every time, it might take at most 30 *seconds* to load.

    Ignore the anti-steam whingers. They weren't around at the start of Half-Life, so don't remember how HORRIBLE WON was at the time. They jumped in with a mostly-tested product at worst, and now have to deal with the release-troubles. Thankfully, Steam is LOADS better than WON's release, which took four to six months to get anywhere *near* reliable. Steam is developing and stabilizing about three times faster than WON did.

    Additionally, most of the problems people attribute to Steam *aren't* Steam's fault. They're caused by the Half-Life 1.1.2.0 patch, which comes with Steam. Now that the Steamservers have bandwidth to breathe with (as opposed to half the planet hammering them), the Steam auth works just fine, every time. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Not even a month after WON's inception, you'd be lucky to be able to join a multiplayer HLDM once out of every twelve times you tried. It was THAT bad.
    Not even a month after Steam's inception, you just have people complaining about how they want to stick with WON, badmouthing Steam unbasedly.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    w00t, then.
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zerogreat+Nov 2 2003, 12:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zerogreat @ Nov 2 2003, 12:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Surely you meant only once, not every time when i want to start hl.



    Have you? (getting really scared) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    only once. Actually, game launching is something from the beta, mostly. For some reason, once in-game, the first cs game you wanted to have, you needed to download some more before joining the server.

    As talesin said, most problems come when you terminate the program.


    add: I haven't tried cs since the real release so I wouldn't know if that's still there.
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  • Daza4Daza4 Kerc Kasha Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15233Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+Nov 2 2003, 06:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Nov 2 2003, 06:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Zerogreat+Nov 2 2003, 12:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zerogreat @ Nov 2 2003, 12:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Surely you meant only once, not every time when i want to start hl.



    Have you? (getting really scared) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    only once. Actually, game launching is something from the beta, mostly. For some reason, once in-game, the first cs game you wanted to have, you needed to download some more before joining the server.

    As talesin said, most problems come when you terminate the program.


    add: I haven't tried cs since the real release so I wouldn't know if that's still there. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actully its chacheing all the files from the .gcf <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    cache versions didn't exist back then
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  • jacksonjO4jacksonjO4 Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11613Members, Constellation
    I downloaded the small installer with no cache files, left it going overnight and in the morning I had the full range just sitting there waiting to play. Steam is the best thing to happen to multiplayer for a long time, since it's now so tightly integrated with the games. Plus I can go to any PC with Steam installed, login as me, and have all my games just sitting there ready to go <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    Finally i got it installed and created account

    wow it detected i have HL installed <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    The preparing to play (tried normal HL) was not so long, it took about 7 minutes. Althru i dont know what it was doing, minimal CPU usage, net and disc activity dicey <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Now just figure out how to add the games i actually play.
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  • jacksonjO4jacksonjO4 Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11613Members, Constellation
    you should have a steam/steamapps/email/half-life directory. Just treat that as your normal HL root when adding mods.
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    Oh, thanks, it should come with some readme.
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    Can i use Cheating Death when playing games with Steam?
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  • jacksonjO4jacksonjO4 Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11613Members, Constellation
    afaik yes, although make sure you get the latest version.
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    Thanks, and here comeas another: How can i decrease the extremely huge ingame font?
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  • jacksonjO4jacksonjO4 Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11613Members, Constellation
    up the resolution?

    Start Game -> Options -> Video
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    No, i use 1152x864 (highest resolution where my monitor can use 100Hz refresh rate), without Steam the font size was ok, but now the font is too big and fat.
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  • jacksonjO4jacksonjO4 Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11613Members, Constellation
    wait for NSv2.1?

    I'm not much of a steam customiser, all I know is how to get it working. You may want to try the FAQ or the forums at www.steampowered.com
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--jacksonj04+Nov 2 2003, 04:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jacksonj04 @ Nov 2 2003, 04:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> wait for NSv2.1? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yea, but the font is big in all mods <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->


    I tried asking on the steam boards, people there are really unhelpful.
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  • The_SpectreThe_Spectre Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9212Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zerogreat+Nov 4 2003, 11:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zerogreat @ Nov 4 2003, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--jacksonj04+Nov 2 2003, 04:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jacksonj04 @ Nov 2 2003, 04:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> wait for NSv2.1? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yea, but the font is big in all mods <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->


    I tried asking on the steam boards, people there are really unhelpful. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=39260&st=0' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...=1&t=39260&st=0</a>

    Read the second bullet point thingy.

    So apparently Flayra's found a way to tweak it. So... Wait for 2.1 anyway. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    Wow, the changelog is HUGE. I look forward for the new version <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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