No Grenades In Ns? Ha!

DeepShadows · November 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">I HAVE FOUND PROOF!!!</div> MWAHAHAHA not really a big thing, or meaning that it should be implimented, BUT:

In the trchtrope article (official documentation for NS) during Frontiersmen training, it specifically references grenades as well as rockets. This occurs right after the phase gate is introduced. The quote:

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>“We’re not just fightin’ aliens out there,” says Baggards (Petty Officer Third Class), as he lobs one practice grenade after another through a series of target hoops, simulated doorways and windows, bouncing them deftly around corners where an overhead laser system paints their blast radius in puddles of green luminescence, “We’re fightin’ for goddam law and order.”
“Aliens!” hollers his partner, sending a rocket hissing out across the practice field with an electromagnetic thump, “Yee-freakin’-hah!”
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So if Flayra says that grenades have no place in NS? LIES!!!
w00 ha!!

ps:
I do love Flay. I keep a fold out picture of him under my pillow.

Lightning_Blue · November 2003

Yee-freakin’-hah!

Love that quote <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Talesin · November 2003

Actually, Techtrope is backstory. You'll also note that they mention an ion-weapon. Which isn't in NS either, and was being phased out at the time. Rocket launchers were proved inviable for ship combat, and the 'lobbing' of grenades were from a GL. Nowhere do they mention that they were hand-thrown grenades. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Paranoia2MB · November 2003

(gets a map idea for Ion Cannon launcher)
>=]

DeepShadows · November 2003

DOOO IIIIITTT!!!

Sides, hand grenades are very viable. They would be just enough to keep lerks and such from camping in vents.

Talesin · November 2003

Which is what they're supposed to do in the early game. There's a REASON JPs and GLs are top of the tech tree.. they're used for vent clearing. It may be frustrating, but ignore the Skulk chuckling in the vent, and punt on. That's why he's chuckling there... to get you standing around, frustratedly trying to shoot him, wasting your time so the hive can have defense built up and so his other teammates can be more free to advance across the map.

Heck, on old Caged I usually would get about half the Marine team trying to shoot me in the vent, or stacking up to try and climb in. By which point I'd already be a Lerk, and just spike them a few times each, getting them to hang around even MORE. It was this kind of tactic, playing on the Marines' frustration, which allowed Kharaa to win so often in 1.04 before the JP/HMG rush was stumbled upon.

So no. No handgrenades.

Reb · November 2003

god, I'd so love it if they gave NS a rocket launcher tho :]

mr_spammy · November 2003

man rocket launchers would be really cheap then, and the reason that gl's are at the top of tech tree is so that SMALL AND HELPLESS skluks can eat something without getting blownup in the face
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ZiGGY · November 2003

lol you didnt even bother to get screenshots from when they had grenades <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> lazy *****

Haze · November 2003

ns_boarding, where two ships fly next to eachother, connected by a boarding system.

That would be a sweet map.

SoulSkorpion · November 2003

I'd love to know what an "electromagnetic thump" sounds like (.wav, anyone? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> )

MrMojo · November 2003

Pfft. Who needs grenades when you have cowboys.

Legionnaired · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ha.ze @ Nov 3 2003, 06:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ns_boarding, where two ships fly next to eachother, connected by a boarding system.

That would be a sweet map.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Way ahead of you with ns_Caduceus <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>.

Forlorn · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Nov 3 2003, 05:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Which is what they're supposed to do in the early game. There's a REASON JPs and GLs are top of the tech tree.. they're used for vent clearing. It may be frustrating, but ignore the Skulk chuckling in the vent, and punt on. That's why he's chuckling there... to get you standing around, frustratedly trying to shoot him, wasting your time so the hive can have defense built up and so his other teammates can be more free to advance across the map.

Heck, on old Caged I usually would get about half the Marine team trying to shoot me in the vent, or stacking up to try and climb in. By which point I'd already be a Lerk, and just spike them a few times each, getting them to hang around even MORE. It was this kind of tactic, playing on the Marines' frustration, which allowed Kharaa to win so often in 1.04 before the JP/HMG rush was stumbled upon.

So no. No handgrenades.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
This only works on pubs...

Man, people just don't get it:

Just leave them alone! What is the point of killing a lerk in a vent?

If it's at marine base, big deal! Build two turrets and the lerk will be powerless to kill the marine base.

Some random spot on the map? Big deal! Who cares, leave them alone, attack the aliens stuff!

Lightning_Blue · November 2003

Sure it only works in pubs but it works really well <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Paranoia2MB · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeepShadows @ Nov 3 2003, 03:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> DOOO IIIIITTT!!!

Sides, hand grenades are very viable. They would be just enough to keep lerks and such from camping in vents.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I would, but I'm mapping for quake right now and it will take TOO long to make a Ns map. And i'll need to get the FGD files, got to configure WorldCraft for HL/Ns. Meh, not in the mood lol.

Maybe in the future. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

That_Annoying_Kid · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lightning Blue @ Nov 3 2003, 07:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Sure it only works in pubs but it works really well <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
yeah it does

but they limited impulses so you can't nonstopspamchucklelikethis, but rines wills till go to alot of trouble to clear those vents and corners

IBT · November 2003

what i wanna know is y waste time sitting there like a goon when you can move out, eat some1 and run back in? or at least parasite some fool? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Talesin · November 2003

Because it's a safe way for a newbie to distract a good chunk of the Marine team without needing to worry about being shot in the slightest. Just stay well back in the vent, and chuckle away. If you peek out, they might be waiting en masse with their pistols to spatter the walls with you in half a second.

Ice · November 2003

Heh, I so wanted to see the faces of those two skulks who where chomping the walls in the double res in ns_caged and driving the base guards crazy. We made a tower of 4 or five people and boosted me to the vent. Got them both with my trusty lmg <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

rknZ · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ice @ Nov 3 2003, 08:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Heh, I so wanted to see the faces of those two skulks who where chomping the walls in the double res in ns_caged and driving the base guards crazy. We made a tower of 4 or five people and boosted me to the vent. Got them both with my trusty lmg <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
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No Grenades In Ns? Ha!

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