<!--QuoteBegin--scooter-blue+Nov 20 2003, 12:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (scooter-blue @ Nov 20 2003, 12:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What do you think is the correct plural form of "onos"?
Watch out! Around that corner there are two... <b>a)</b> Oni ... <b>c)</b> Onos ... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> These are the only 2 correct ones.
A is better defined to plural and C can be either singular or plural.
flayra made the word, therefor he can make the plural of it. I like onos, though. ^_^ I think of it like deer. multiple deer, or just one deer. multiple onos, or just one onos. SEE?
<!--QuoteBegin--leek+Nov 20 2003, 07:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (leek @ Nov 20 2003, 07:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> was swttled like a year ago Flayra said its Oni
ive seen an identical thread and its is <u>Oni</u> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's not bloody settled (swttled). Flayra did not say it was Oni, he said <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>Feel free to call them whatever you want</b>, but I say Oni (pronounced "oh-nigh"). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Personally, I say Onos, because 1.) It's from the manual 2.) I think it sounds right, and I think right (usually) 3.) The Latin mumbo jumbo that others have stated with -us and whatnot 4.) hi2u2
1 onos = Oh No(onos) 1+ onos = Own us(onos) And its not octopi its octopuses.(From a grammer book) Like it really matters. Everyone knows what you mean.
<!--QuoteBegin--Vahn_Paktu+Nov 21 2003, 10:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vahn_Paktu @ Nov 21 2003, 10:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And its not octopi its octopuses.(From a grammer book) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> -slightly off topic here-
Actually, both are <a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=octopus' target='_blank'>correct</a>. Octopi would be used to describe a number of octopi of the same speices, a group of mixed species would be octopuses. The word fish is the same, five tuna would be fish, but a tuna, a salmon, a swordfish, a gold fish and a flounder would be fishes. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I prefer a flock/pack/herd of onos. I started using it after reaching a conclusion in <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=15535&hl=onos' target='_blank'>this ancient thread.</a>
Oni sounds the best, but I can't remember having ever heard it used in a game.
Onoses seems incorrect just like Fishes where the correct plural would be Fish.
Onos makes the most sense being both plural and singular.
So I'd say I like.. Oni best idealy, but Onos is the one I use and probably will continue to use.
Isn't the most used term actually something like..
*Marine sees an Onos just outside base then wham is right there infront of him while he is just scared to death that he has no change of killing it all alone with his LMG*
*Down the voice coms he screams "SH*****T On-o s s s ahh Onos Onos Onos, for the love of god!" then silence followed by "You *****ng nub team theirs Onos outside of base" followed by the realisation that a few of his team have already found that out for themselves and have been having fun each inside an Onos stomach.*
I believe that is roughly the correct way to say that you've just encountered 1 or more Onos.
<!--QuoteBegin--NoImagination+Nov 21 2003, 04:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NoImagination @ Nov 21 2003, 04:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> * Cause Flayra said so <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If i remember correctly, Flayra did not say its Oni, he said that he himself call them Oni, and we may call it whatever we want.
I've thought about this many times. As a student newspaper editor (with an 800 on my Writing SAT II and a 35 on my ACT English section) I think I might be able to produce a decent answer. Heck, you would hope so.
Let's look at some similar words, and how the exception-filled English language deals with them. Since we don't have a whole lot of hard-and-fast rules (Like French or Spanish) this is the only way to really know.
Cactus. Plural: Cacti Octopus. Plural: Octopi Except these end with 'us'
Nose. Plural: Noses Loss. Plural: Losses Except these have <i>two</i> syllables (important).
Hmmm.
Now true, there are instances where you say fishes or octopuses. But as has also been pointed out, Onos isn't from Latin, so such rules are (probably) less likely to apply.
I would tell you that Onos is both the singular and the plural form.
But that doesn't matter.
Because you still need to differentiate verbally between one giant war cow and five giant war cows. Words like 'some', 'two', or '****load' are all helpful to that effect.
But honestly, we all know that people will continue to make it up on there own -- and after all, it's a made-up root word. The real, practical answer is that nothing that is said here will change what people say. Online, people are absolutely awful about spelling and grammar. Take it from someone as anal as me: Onos is the best answer for plural form, but it's useless to think we'll ever get rid of the onos/onoses/oni.
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I personally use "Onos", because it's consistent with the manual.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I had one of my roomates play NS for the first time the other day. When he saw his first onos he refered to them as "big f'n ox" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> . I found that pretty amusing considering I had never heard anyone ever use the term ox to describe an onos. Multiple onos should be refered to as "game over" in most cases <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Thanks for the sig Ryo <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
i say 3 onos are coming then te marines folow suit by F4ing <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Three onos in base is nothing, if you can drop mines quickly then you can kill them amidst the chaos. Three onos rushing your ha train can be bad news, since you actually have to shoot them with their messed up hit boxes to kill them.
<!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm with this man - I dont care what Flayra says, its got 2 i's dangit!!!
<!--QuoteBegin--Rage against the Pepsi machine+Nov 22 2003, 03:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rage against the Pepsi machine @ Nov 22 2003, 03:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> One <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> = Onos Multiple <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> = Onos Myself as <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> = Pwnos
Also if you're talking about the Japanese word, wouldn't it be pronounced "Oh-knee" instead of "Ohn-eye. I'm not a linguist so I may be wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Pwnos? That sounds kind of.. dirty. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Meaning0fLife+Nov 20 2003, 05:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Meaning0fLife @ Nov 20 2003, 05:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In certain builds of 2.1, i'd call n number of oni/onoses/onifluffilous wastes of n*100 res.
"Oh my god there's <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> coming to base..............oh wait nvm they died in 2.232s, gg."
But I digress <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
*Edit* not enough oni coming.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> haha its so true
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-Flik
<i>Onos.</i>
Watch out! Around that corner there are two...
<b>a)</b> Oni
...
<b>c)</b> Onos
... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
These are the only 2 correct ones.
A is better defined to plural and C can be either singular or plural.
ive seen an identical thread and its is <u>Oni</u> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's not bloody settled (swttled). Flayra did not say it was Oni, he said
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>Feel free to call them whatever you want</b>, but I say Oni (pronounced "oh-nigh"). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Personally, I say Onos, because
1.) It's from the manual
2.) I think it sounds right, and I think right (usually)
3.) The Latin mumbo jumbo that others have stated with -us and whatnot
4.) hi2u2
1+ onos = Own us(onos)
And its not octopi its octopuses.(From a grammer book)
Like it really matters. Everyone knows what you mean.
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-slightly off topic here-
Actually, both are <a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=octopus' target='_blank'>correct</a>. Octopi would be used to describe a number of octopi of the same speices, a group of mixed species would be octopuses. The word fish is the same, five tuna would be fish, but a tuna, a salmon, a swordfish, a gold fish and a flounder would be fishes. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
we should stay with the roots of the word :
OH NO!!!! <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <----- a onos.. (should be onoh)
<!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <--------------many onos (should be ohnos)
Onoses seems incorrect just like Fishes where the correct plural would be Fish.
Onos makes the most sense being both plural and singular.
So I'd say I like.. Oni best idealy, but Onos is the one I use and probably will continue to use.
Isn't the most used term actually something like..
*Marine sees an Onos just outside base then wham is right there infront of him while he is just scared to death that he has no change of killing it all alone with his LMG*
*Down the voice coms he screams "SH*****T On-o s s s ahh Onos Onos Onos, for the love of god!" then silence followed by "You *****ng nub team theirs Onos outside of base" followed by the realisation that a few of his team have already found that out for themselves and have been having fun each inside an Onos stomach.*
I believe that is roughly the correct way to say that you've just encountered 1 or more Onos.
"Onos coming into generator!!"
"They have onos"
same difference <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
If i remember correctly, Flayra did not say its Oni, he said that he himself call them Oni, and we may call it whatever we want.
Let's look at some similar words, and how the exception-filled English language deals with them. Since we don't have a whole lot of hard-and-fast rules (Like French or Spanish) this is the only way to really know.
Cactus. Plural: Cacti
Octopus. Plural: Octopi
Except these end with 'us'
Nose. Plural: Noses
Loss. Plural: Losses
Except these have <i>two</i> syllables (important).
Hmmm.
Now true, there are instances where you say fishes or octopuses. But as has also been pointed out, Onos isn't from Latin, so such rules are (probably) less likely to apply.
I would tell you that Onos is both the singular and the plural form.
But that doesn't matter.
Because you still need to differentiate verbally between one giant war cow and five giant war cows. Words like 'some', 'two', or '****load' are all helpful to that effect.
But honestly, we all know that people will continue to make it up on there own -- and after all, it's a made-up root word. The real, practical answer is that nothing that is said here will change what people say. Online, people are absolutely awful about spelling and grammar. Take it from someone as anal as me: Onos is the best answer for plural form, but it's useless to think we'll ever get rid of the onos/onoses/oni.
Noses doesnt have two syllables, OMG, Pwned noob <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Noses doesnt have two syllables, OMG, Pwned noob <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
err...no, noses has two..
Ono for singular since it comes from "Oh no!"
Onos for plural since that would be like several "Oh no!"
Multiple <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> = Onos
Myself as <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> = Pwnos
Also if you're talking about the Japanese word, wouldn't it be pronounced "Oh-knee" instead of "Ohn-eye. I'm not a linguist so I may be wrong.
But....nothing....else.....is.... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
But....nothing....else.....is.... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ah, but that's because everything else was changed =)
Oni sounds like some stupid dog fart.
Seriosuly though, the wierdest plural of Onos that I've seen to date is...
**Drumroll**
Onars <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm with this man - I dont care what Flayra says, its got 2 i's dangit!!!
Multiple <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> = Onos
Myself as <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> = Pwnos
Also if you're talking about the Japanese word, wouldn't it be pronounced "Oh-knee" instead of "Ohn-eye. I'm not a linguist so I may be wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Pwnos? That sounds kind of.. dirty. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
"Oh my god there's <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> coming to base..............oh wait nvm they died in 2.232s, gg."
But I digress <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
*Edit* not enough oni coming.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
haha its so true