Campaing To Bring Back Babblers...
Laggasaurus
Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22773Members, NS1 Playtester
Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22773Members, NS1 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">Perfect for Battle Gorges in Combat</div> Basically i believe that babblers would make it worth while ebing a gorge (kill wise) if they had some way of attacking the high level marines as heal spray really means nothing to them. But with babblers they can finally fight back <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Or on a more realistic matter, you could make it so Bilebomb does 25% dmg to HA
Replacing webs with ANYTHING is a bad idea.
Webs are vital for res-starved aliens standing a chance against HA or JP. Removing webs is like making the hive in marine spawn and tell the aliens to come back in 20 minutes.
As for babblers, they were stupid, way underpowered and absolutely useless without webs.
-Had crappy AI
-Kill server resoruces.
-Are a diversion at best.
Think how powerful the avg marine is by the time a Gorge would have babblers. They'd be ripped apart. It'd be a waste. Gorges are just fine in NS:C.
Babblers, as fun as they were to use, were buggy as hell. Not to mention how stupid their AI was, you could barely fire them down a hallway correctly, much less around a corner or behind cover. They were comical more than they were useful IMO.
And at the same time as being able to completely immobilize rines, you can heal Mr. Hive. A win - win situation.
*Edit: Well <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> couldn't kill rines with hp boosts per level in 2.1r NS:C and previous, I haven't gotten a chance to battle gorge in 2.1r and s.
They sure did. But you wouldn't want bile bomb as hive 3, nor remove spit + put either bb/web as hive1
Babblers were fun. I loved them. I hated when they were taken away. However, I hate lag even more. granted, in combat, babblers would probably work and not cause too much lag since nothing can be built. However, they will still not be very effective against JP marines. hence, you still need you webs. Webs should be strong enough to not let a JPer just fly through them though.
Babblers are simply dumb AI. Sure, you could lose bile bomb, shift web to slot 3 and babblers to 4. But, that would then make gorges less effective at attacking the marine CC.
Babblers would not be good to bring back in regular NS due to that lag. It would be too much in addition to an already laggy situation.
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Really need we say more.
Webs are freakin awsome in the hands of a good offensive webber.
In fact way too good. I believe that webs moved to hive3 so the marines can have a web free game by taking 1 hive.
We don't need webs for the same reason we needed them in 1.x, because JPs got nerfed so hard.
Do aliens get cannons that shoot through walls? Or permenant wallhack-ish Motion tracking for the entire map? Grenade launchers that fire around corners? Shotguns that do ungodly amounts of damage against ANYTHING? Resource towers with deadly electric fields? No I do not feel the least bit concerned about the aliens getting an uber weapon, because the marines already have an ARSENAL of them.
Gorge needs web. Bile bomb is great I know, but you gotta work web in there somehow for hive 2. It loses so much of it's use at hive 3, it's just depressing. Why limit the aliens to 1 attack per hive anyways? Maybe let the aliens choose between different types with each species, giving them different attacks. It seems so easy to give marines new stuff, yet the aliens seem so limited as to what they can have...
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Really need we say more.
Webs are freakin awsome in the hands of a good offensive webber.
In fact way too good. I believe that webs moved to hive3 so the marines can have a web free game by taking 1 hive.
We don't need webs for the same reason we needed them in 1.x, because JPs got nerfed so hard. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
JPs are back man.
The new JP in the current beta test build "feel" like the old 1.04 JPs...so yeah, the webs are important once again.