How Did These Bots Get These Icons?

Depot · November 2003

When the bots are running on this server they have these icons by their name. Anyone know why? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'>

RyoOhki · November 2003

*blink*

Wierd...those are veteran icons and I can't see why they would be showing up there. Bot bug perhaps?

SuB · November 2003

LOL veteran bots <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

criticaI · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([SuB] @ Nov 23 2003, 11:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> LOL veteran bots <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Shh.

All Veterans = bots.

DXO · November 2003

no... all veterans USE bots <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Stanley_txp · November 2003

i got it, the kit fisto guy is not a bot, look at his ping, but the veteran bots are because the guy is running the dedicsted server through steam, and his steam id is regestered for the vet icon, so... the bots ae on using his steam id, and therefore get the icon. I think....

UGLAndrew · November 2003

probobly because a veteran is hosting the server, and so the bots have the same wonid (or something i dunno) and it uses his info, so it displays the icons, i dunno <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

criticaI · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UGL|Andrew @ Nov 23 2003, 12:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> probobly because a veteran is hosting the server, and so the bots have the same wonid (or something i dunno) and it uses his info, so it displays the icons, i dunno <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Actually its because serverops can assign any icon they want. On the jarhedz public servers you get a PT icon for being a paying member of the server (or at least you did at one point).

I've seen bots with Dev icons etc... all of it.

Depot · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stanley_txp @ Nov 23 2003, 01:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>i got it, the kit fisto guy is not a bot, look at his ping, but the veteran bots are because the guy is running the dedicsted server through steam, and his steam id is regestered for the vet icon, so... the bots ae on using his steam id, and therefore get the icon. I think....</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Kit Fisto <b>IS</b> a bot (screenie must have been taken when he just joined imho) and this server is <b>NOT </b>STEAM.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>UGL|Andrew Posted on Nov 23 2003, 01:13 PM
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probobly because a veteran is hosting the server, and so the bots have the same wonid (or something i dunno) and it uses his info, so it displays the icons, i dunno </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
The server host is <b>NOT</b> a veteran.

RCBots or Whichbots all get veteran status on this server... any more ideas? BTW, this server is recruiting bots and guarantees Vet status! (j/k)

Depot · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cri.tical @ Nov 23 2003, 01:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UGL|Andrew @ Nov 23 2003, 12:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> probobly because a veteran is hosting the server, and so the bots have the same wonid (or something i dunno) and it uses his info, so it displays the icons, i dunno <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Actually its because serverops can assign any icon they want. On the jarhedz public servers you get a PT icon for being a paying member of the server (or at least you did at one point).

I've seen bots with Dev icons etc... all of it.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
The server op has not assigned any icons to these bots. Good guess though <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Aaron · November 2003

Um, maybe the bots are becoming sentient...? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Gliss · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aaron @ Nov 23 2003, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Um, maybe the bots are becoming sentient...? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Man's greatest fear...

We must destroy them now! Lag up their machines!

<b>Death to the 5 pingers</b>!!!!!!

KaMiKaZe1 · November 2003

Icons can be assigned. Through myHLA, the Redphive and Jarhedz servers had PT icons for registered users (don't know where "paying" came from) and veteran icons for... unregistered players or CD users? Don't quite remember, but it was assigned to something.

Though this might not be what's giving those bots icons.

Forlorn · November 2003

Wow, veteran bots, just goes to show you the vet program degrading on a daily basis

UGLAndrew · November 2003

critical... isn't that only a 2.1 update... ?

Amped1 · November 2003

Bots are annoying like that. For some reason killing them in 1.0x with a welder caused a death message to come up that said they had killed themsleves with the welder!

Depot · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KaMiKaZe!!! @ Nov 23 2003, 02:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Icons can be assigned. Through myHLA, the Redphive and Jarhedz servers had PT icons for registered users (don't know where "paying" came from) and veteran icons for... unregistered players or CD users? Don't quite remember, but it was assigned to something.

Though this might not be what's giving those bots icons.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
cri.tical already suggested this. I assure you this was not the case. I am now curious if any other servers have had this occur.

prsearle · November 2003

I'm not sure why that should be happening. Bots share the same AuthID, so if one bot gets an icon, all bots will. Assuming the server is running the ServerOps plugin, , join the server and type "prs_debug_serverops". That should give you the list of assigned AuthIDs and who the plugin thinks should get an icon.

Depot · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (prsearle @ Nov 23 2003, 06:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I'm not sure why that should be happening. Bots share the same AuthID, so if one bot gets an icon, all bots will. Assuming the server is running the ServerOps plugin, , join the server and type "prs_debug_serverops". That should give you the list of assigned AuthIDs and who the plugin thinks should get an icon.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
This server does not run the Server_Ops plugin. Also note the bots getting the vets icon occurs maybe 50% of the time the server is up.

stylee · November 2003

IIRC, bots get a WONid of 0. Perhaps whatever checks if the people should have icons on the scoreboard doesn't like the number 0 and sometimes gives it, sometimes doesn't (Yes, I know it just dls a list from n-s.org and parses it..)...

Stanley_txp · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kwikloader @ Nov 23 2003, 12:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stanley_txp @ Nov 23 2003, 01:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>i got it, the kit fisto guy is not a bot, look at his ping, but the veteran bots are because the guy is running the dedicsted server through steam, and his steam id is regestered for the vet icon, so... the bots ae on using his steam id, and therefore get the icon. I think....</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Kit Fisto <b>IS</b> a bot (screenie must have been taken when he just joined imho) and this server is <b>NOT </b>STEAM.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>UGL|Andrew Posted on Nov 23 2003, 01:13 PM
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probobly because a veteran is hosting the server, and so the bots have the same wonid (or something i dunno) and it uses his info, so it displays the icons, i dunno </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
The server host is <b>NOT</b> a veteran.

RCBots or Whichbots all get veteran status on this server... any more ideas? BTW, this server is recruiting bots and guarantees Vet status! (j/k)  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
dood!!!!!, chill out, it was only a guess, but usualy bots have a response of 0 this guy has one thats about that of a person with a good internet connection. but chill out man. i just offered a possible answer, and you just explode on me, not cool.

Depot · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (stylee311 @ Nov 23 2003, 07:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> IIRC, bots get a WONid of 0. Perhaps whatever checks if the people should have icons on the scoreboard doesn't like the number 0 and sometimes gives it, sometimes doesn't (Yes, I know it just dls a list from n-s.org and parses it..)...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Sounds better than anything I've heard to date...good guess. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

RaVe · November 2003

My guess is that the bots share the same ID as the user....which it is :/

Jabba_The_Hunt · November 2003

If it only happens 50ish percent of the time then there has to be a factor someone is missing out, computers are never random, if u know all the inputs then u can work out the output.

Depot · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Nov 24 2003, 07:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>My guess is that the bots share the same ID as the user....which it is :/</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
The bots have an ID of <0> and I of course have a 6 digit WONID.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Jabba The Hunt Posted on Nov 24 2003, 07:26 AM
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If it only happens 50ish percent of the time then there has to be a factor someone is missing out, computers are never random, if u know all the inputs then u can work out the output.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
In the past 24 hours all bots show vet's icons 100% of the time, so it's consistent now.

Gruuunt · November 2003

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'> Perhaps the bot's have killed all the non-Vets???

esuna · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kwikloader @ Nov 24 2003, 01:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Nov 24 2003, 07:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>My guess is that the bots share the same ID as the user....which it is :/</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
The bots have an ID of <0> and I of course have a 6 digit WONID.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Jabba The Hunt Posted on Nov 24 2003, 07:26 AM
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If it only happens 50ish percent of the time then there has to be a factor someone is missing out, computers are never random, if u know all the inputs then u can work out the output.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
In the past 24 hours all bots show vet's icons 100% of the time, so it's consistent now.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
In that case, i think i can answer it.

In the database for icons, as a CM, it was not required to give a WONid since you could just add your STEAM id. Those who didn't submit their WONid had it set at 0. After some random playing around and such by Flayra, he fixed all the other WONid's to unique numbers (Because of problems) and left one of the accounts with a WONid as 0.

This person with a WONid of 0 is a vet. His/her STEAMid is still unique, so this problem won't occur on Steam servers, but the WONid is still valid, so if a bot has a WONid of 0, they'll be a vet. I think this might be worth reporting to Flayra, or someone, to change that database entry to another unique number so this doesn't happen.

Warmaster · November 2003

true reason:
they are my babblers.

Nil_IQ · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jabba The Hunt @ Nov 24 2003, 06:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> If it only happens 50ish percent of the time then there has to be a factor someone is missing out, computers are never random, if u know all the inputs then u can work out the output.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Oh you tell that to MY computer.

No way in hell to predict when it's going to crash. Maybe 2 minutes after starting it up in the morning, maybe you get a good 2 hours, maybe when you least expect it.

But it will crash, oh yes.

How Did These Bots Get These Icons?

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