X_StickmanNot good enough for a custom title.Join Date: 2003-04-15Member: 15533Members, Constellation
I think he was just showing the lerk bite for people who've missed it and people who have never seen it.
I know i did a little jump of joy when i was biting people as a lerk again <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
any new maps? heard someone say theyll be making more maps for combat... <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
heh yeah. that pic with the lerk jezpuh... we know lerk bites coming back already so what are u tryin to show us ? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--TriPhase+Nov 20 2003, 01:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TriPhase @ Nov 20 2003, 01:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> sounds good, just one question, what does the new alien upgrade actually do ? :x <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It increases your damage. Right now you can kill a marine with one bite. (note: due to change!)
<!--QuoteBegin--kavasa+Nov 19 2003, 01:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kavasa @ Nov 19 2003, 01:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->lmao on the umbra bug. Can't believe that was overlooked for 6 successive builds.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
...why? I don't exactly count the bullets fired and compare them to the bullets that hit, do you? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Just... Go find someone else to rag on ...
<!--QuoteBegin--eggmac+Nov 19 2003, 06:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eggmac @ Nov 19 2003, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--TriPhase+Nov 20 2003, 01:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TriPhase @ Nov 20 2003, 01:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> sounds good, just one question, what does the new alien upgrade actually do ? :x <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It increases your damage. Right now you can kill a marine with one bite. (note: due to change!) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Eggmac, care to explain what you mean "due to change"? Does that mean they're thinking about changing focus so you can't kill a marine in one hit as a skulk?
<!--QuoteBegin--spit_fire+Nov 19 2003, 03:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (spit_fire @ Nov 19 2003, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> any new maps? heard someone say theyll be making more maps for combat... <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> [unsubstantiated rumors] Nothing confirmed, but the other night, an admin came on and switched to a map I've never seen before. co_tasium I believe it was. It still doesn't work (All players booted to rr on game start), but it looked cool. So yes, I suspect more maps are still in the works. I've also heard rumors that the ns_nancy remake is going to be ready fairly soon. [/unsubstantiated rumors]
<!--QuoteBegin--Arcadius+Nov 20 2003, 01:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Arcadius @ Nov 20 2003, 01:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--eggmac+Nov 19 2003, 06:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eggmac @ Nov 19 2003, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--TriPhase+Nov 20 2003, 01:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TriPhase @ Nov 20 2003, 01:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> sounds good, just one question, what does the new alien upgrade actually do ? :x <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It increases your damage. Right now you can kill a marine with one bite. (note: due to change!) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Eggmac, care to explain what you mean "due to change"? Does that mean they're thinking about changing focus so you can't kill a marine in one hit as a skulk? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> "due to change" is probably meant to say "Subject to change(STC)". The new ability(focus) doubles the damage of your first weapon, but halves the rate of attack. So you bite at half the speed, but can kill unupgraded marines in one bite.
Welll...provided that you have the correct changes made into your configs, yu won't really be able to fly upside down.
Those who pay attention know what these commands are....for those who don't....look harder! It's right on the first page <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
This patch also stops turret farms for the most part. Electricity owns now too.
It seems very solid but for the most part no one is playing on the non-NS:Combat servers and when they do the games are small and the map hardly ever changes.
New lerk flight is sweet to say the least. Focus skuls own too. New maps are nice... would love to see them on large servers with ~30 players because they are huge.
I hope it goes live soon because the beta servers are laggy as heck and not played in much.
<!--QuoteBegin--Anwar+Nov 20 2003, 09:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Anwar @ Nov 20 2003, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It seems very solid but for the most part no one is playing on the non-NS:Combat servers and when they do the games are small and the map hardly ever changes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> There better be a good reason for this, or else our worst fears have just been confirmed... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Umbraed Monkey+Nov 20 2003, 06:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ Nov 20 2003, 06:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Anwar+Nov 20 2003, 09:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Anwar @ Nov 20 2003, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It seems very solid but for the most part no one is playing on the non-NS:Combat servers and when they do the games are small and the map hardly ever changes. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> There better be a good reason for this, or else our worst fears have just been confirmed... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The reason for this has a lot to do with a bug that makes standard ns games increasingly laggy as time goes by, with the end of a long game being almost unplayable. Plus, of course, combat mode is new, and people like to try new things more than revised old things. Once the bug is squashed(I heard a rumor that it just was), and the novelty wears off, I'm sure plenty of people will be playing normal ns again. I know that I will be playing quite a bit of both after release, as they are both a lot of fun.
<!--QuoteBegin--Quantum_Duck+Nov 20 2003, 10:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quantum_Duck @ Nov 20 2003, 10:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Umbraed Monkey+Nov 20 2003, 06:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ Nov 20 2003, 06:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Anwar+Nov 20 2003, 09:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Anwar @ Nov 20 2003, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It seems very solid but for the most part no one is playing on the non-NS:Combat servers and when they do the games are small and the map hardly ever changes. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> There better be a good reason for this, or else our worst fears have just been confirmed... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The reason for this has a lot to do with a bug that makes standard ns games increasingly laggy as time goes by, with the end of a long game being almost unplayable. Plus, of course, combat mode is new, and people like to try new things more than revised old things. Once the bug is squashed(I heard a rumor that it just was), and the novelty wears off, I'm sure plenty of people will be playing normal ns again. I know that I will be playing quite a bit of both after release, as they are both a lot of fun. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Unfortunately I hear this 'it's new' excuse used to falsly justify anything.
<!--QuoteBegin--relsan+Nov 20 2003, 07:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (relsan @ Nov 20 2003, 07:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How "set in stone" is this experience and level up thing and do you keep your level if you die? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Experience is quite set in stone for combat mode, since it is the defining condition of combat mode, and it is not in normal ns. You keep all experience when you die. In the latest version(see new topic) both attacking the opponents base and healing yours gets you a small amount of experience, and killing an enemy or being near an ally who does gets you more. Experience based on healing might be temporary(I havn't tried it yet), but the other types seem to be working well.
<!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 20 2003, 08:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 20 2003, 08:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Unfortunately I hear this 'it's new' excuse used to falsly justify anything. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What, exactly, is being justified? I suppose you are suggesting that combat mode is somehow wrong and in need of justification? Combat mode is fun. But after playing it for a while, I remember what makes NS so great, and go back to some good old strategic NS warfare. Both modes are very good. Both modes complement each other well, with combat being good for small numbers of players, and standard being good for large numbers of players. There is no need to "justify" combat mode, and I won't make excuses for it, since there is no need to do so. I was mearly pointing out that it is not a "treat" to NS, as some seem to think it may be. The reason I don't play standard NS at the moment has to do with technical issues, which have apperently been solved in the latest version. When the servers are updated, and I can actually get into a standard NS game with less than 400+ ping, I will be playing both modes frequently. I am willing to bet that most people will be like me and play both modes. Some people will strongly prefer one over the other, and will only play one mode. Why do I care? Why should I want people to play a game they don't like as much? Why is it a problem if they make a game that is MORE fun for some people(For me, NS is more fun overall, but CO is more immediately gratifying) than the current one? I guess I just don't understand that line of thinking at all...
<!--QuoteBegin--Quantum_Duck+Nov 21 2003, 12:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quantum_Duck @ Nov 21 2003, 12:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 20 2003, 08:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 20 2003, 08:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Unfortunately I hear this 'it's new' excuse used to falsly justify anything. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What, exactly, is being justified? I suppose you are suggesting that combat mode is somehow wrong and in need of justification? Combat mode is fun. But after playing it for a while, I remember what makes NS so great, and go back to some good old strategic NS warfare. Both modes are very good. Both modes complement each other well, with combat being good for small numbers of players, and standard being good for large numbers of players. There is no need to "justify" combat mode, and I won't make excuses for it, since there is no need to do so. I was mearly pointing out that it is not a "treat" to NS, as some seem to think it may be. The reason I don't play standard NS at the moment has to do with technical issues, which have apperently been solved in the latest version. When the servers are updated, and I can actually get into a standard NS game with less than 400+ ping, I will be playing both modes frequently. I am willing to bet that most people will be like me and play both modes. Some people will strongly prefer one over the other, and will only play one mode. Why do I care? Why should I want people to play a game they don't like as much? Why is it a problem if they make a game that is MORE fun for some people(For me, NS is more fun overall, but CO is more immediately gratifying) than the current one? I guess I just don't understand that line of thinking at all... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'll certainly have my HLSW list filled with both types of servers <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--project_demon+Nov 23 2003, 07:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (project_demon @ Nov 23 2003, 07:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> upside down view with skulk? how do u do that?i never knew we could see upside down if we go up the walls and seelings <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> With cl_pithup and cl_pitchdown increased above 90 degrees, you could turn upwards further than directly up, meaning that you ended up flipping over. But the model still rotated as if you looked forward, meaning that you would have left and right inverted if you turned upside-down, which kind of makes it useless. This feature allows those of us who like walking upside-down to do so.
<!--QuoteBegin--Anwar+Nov 20 2003, 09:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Anwar @ Nov 20 2003, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This patch also stops turret farms for the most part. Electricity owns now too.
It seems very solid but for the most part no one is playing on the non-NS:Combat servers and when they do the games are small and the map hardly ever changes.
I hope it goes live soon because the beta servers are laggy as heck and not played in much.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I think no one is really playing regular NS much because turrets and OC's are buggered in this release... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
As for the beta servers being laggy - that's still one of the main bugs left to be fixed. It's not the servers fault.
With the cl_pitch feature put in, we can walk on ceilings now. You can already adjust which way turns which with some command. I think it's yaw. Not sure.
i dont know why it cant be 2.1x, i dont like 2.1r,... can we just skip to 3.0? because since 2.0 is crashing and asking for my cdkey every 15 seconds, i think another 2.fdafs version will do the same thing but maybe if we just rename 2.0 to 3.0 that will fix it
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I know i did a little jump of joy when i was biting people as a lerk again <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
It increases your damage. Right now you can kill a marine with one bite. (note: due to change!)
...why? I don't exactly count the bullets fired and compare them to the bullets that hit, do you? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just... Go find someone else to rag on ...
It increases your damage. Right now you can kill a marine with one bite. (note: due to change!) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Eggmac, care to explain what you mean "due to change"? Does that mean they're thinking about changing focus so you can't kill a marine in one hit as a skulk?
[unsubstantiated rumors]
Nothing confirmed, but the other night, an admin came on and switched to a map I've never seen before. co_tasium I believe it was. It still doesn't work (All players booted to rr on game start), but it looked cool. So yes, I suspect more maps are still in the works. I've also heard rumors that the ns_nancy remake is going to be ready fairly soon.
[/unsubstantiated rumors]
It increases your damage. Right now you can kill a marine with one bite. (note: due to change!) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Eggmac, care to explain what you mean "due to change"? Does that mean they're thinking about changing focus so you can't kill a marine in one hit as a skulk? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
"due to change" is probably meant to say "Subject to change(STC)".
The new ability(focus) doubles the damage of your first weapon, but halves the rate of attack. So you bite at half the speed, but can kill unupgraded marines in one bite.
Those who pay attention know what these commands are....for those who don't....look harder! It's right on the first page <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
It seems very solid but for the most part no one is playing on the non-NS:Combat servers and when they do the games are small and the map hardly ever changes.
New lerk flight is sweet to say the least. Focus skuls own too. New maps are nice... would love to see them on large servers with ~30 players because they are huge.
I hope it goes live soon because the beta servers are laggy as heck and not played in much.
There better be a good reason for this, or else our worst fears have just been confirmed... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
There better be a good reason for this, or else our worst fears have just been confirmed... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The reason for this has a lot to do with a bug that makes standard ns games increasingly laggy as time goes by, with the end of a long game being almost unplayable. Plus, of course, combat mode is new, and people like to try new things more than revised old things. Once the bug is squashed(I heard a rumor that it just was), and the novelty wears off, I'm sure plenty of people will be playing normal ns again. I know that I will be playing quite a bit of both after release, as they are both a lot of fun.
There better be a good reason for this, or else our worst fears have just been confirmed... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The reason for this has a lot to do with a bug that makes standard ns games increasingly laggy as time goes by, with the end of a long game being almost unplayable. Plus, of course, combat mode is new, and people like to try new things more than revised old things. Once the bug is squashed(I heard a rumor that it just was), and the novelty wears off, I'm sure plenty of people will be playing normal ns again. I know that I will be playing quite a bit of both after release, as they are both a lot of fun. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Unfortunately I hear this 'it's new' excuse used to falsly justify anything.
Experience is quite set in stone for combat mode, since it is the defining condition of combat mode, and it is not in normal ns. You keep all experience when you die. In the latest version(see new topic) both attacking the opponents base and healing yours gets you a small amount of experience, and killing an enemy or being near an ally who does gets you more. Experience based on healing might be temporary(I havn't tried it yet), but the other types seem to be working well.
What, exactly, is being justified? I suppose you are suggesting that combat mode is somehow wrong and in need of justification? Combat mode is fun. But after playing it for a while, I remember what makes NS so great, and go back to some good old strategic NS warfare. Both modes are very good. Both modes complement each other well, with combat being good for small numbers of players, and standard being good for large numbers of players. There is no need to "justify" combat mode, and I won't make excuses for it, since there is no need to do so. I was mearly pointing out that it is not a "treat" to NS, as some seem to think it may be.
The reason I don't play standard NS at the moment has to do with technical issues, which have apperently been solved in the latest version. When the servers are updated, and I can actually get into a standard NS game with less than 400+ ping, I will be playing both modes frequently. I am willing to bet that most people will be like me and play both modes. Some people will strongly prefer one over the other, and will only play one mode. Why do I care? Why should I want people to play a game they don't like as much? Why is it a problem if they make a game that is MORE fun for some people(For me, NS is more fun overall, but CO is more immediately gratifying) than the current one? I guess I just don't understand that line of thinking at all...
What, exactly, is being justified? I suppose you are suggesting that combat mode is somehow wrong and in need of justification? Combat mode is fun. But after playing it for a while, I remember what makes NS so great, and go back to some good old strategic NS warfare. Both modes are very good. Both modes complement each other well, with combat being good for small numbers of players, and standard being good for large numbers of players. There is no need to "justify" combat mode, and I won't make excuses for it, since there is no need to do so. I was mearly pointing out that it is not a "treat" to NS, as some seem to think it may be.
The reason I don't play standard NS at the moment has to do with technical issues, which have apperently been solved in the latest version. When the servers are updated, and I can actually get into a standard NS game with less than 400+ ping, I will be playing both modes frequently. I am willing to bet that most people will be like me and play both modes. Some people will strongly prefer one over the other, and will only play one mode. Why do I care? Why should I want people to play a game they don't like as much? Why is it a problem if they make a game that is MORE fun for some people(For me, NS is more fun overall, but CO is more immediately gratifying) than the current one? I guess I just don't understand that line of thinking at all... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll certainly have my HLSW list filled with both types of servers <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
cl_pitchup 9999
Look up. Keep looking up. Get it?
With cl_pithup and cl_pitchdown increased above 90 degrees, you could turn upwards further than directly up, meaning that you ended up flipping over. But the model still rotated as if you looked forward, meaning that you would have left and right inverted if you turned upside-down, which kind of makes it useless. This feature allows those of us who like walking upside-down to do so.
It seems very solid but for the most part no one is playing on the non-NS:Combat servers and when they do the games are small and the map hardly ever changes.
I hope it goes live soon because the beta servers are laggy as heck and not played in much.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think no one is really playing regular NS much because turrets and OC's are buggered in this release... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
As for the beta servers being laggy - that's still one of the main bugs left to be fixed. It's not the servers fault.