Xenoing Tip

BallistoBallisto Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16503Members
<div class="IPBDescription">use sof!!</div> im not sure if ppl know this or not... ive never seen anyone talk about it so here goes.

i xeno best if i get sof (if you have 3 hives, you'll have sensory in case you didn't think of that one). it helps a lot to see when the marines are clusters and when they're just about to come around the corner. this is pretty much an endgame fun trick when rines are dug in. if they have ha this doesnt work nearly as well. but you can rack up some impressive xeno kills on those desperate vanilla rines.

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  • laggerlagger Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1805Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Ballisto+Dec 1 2003, 04:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ballisto @ Dec 1 2003, 04:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> im not sure if ppl know this or not... ive never seen anyone talk about it so here goes.

    i xeno best if i get sof (if you have 3 hives, you'll have sensory in case you didn't think of that one). it helps a lot to see when the marines are clusters and when they're just about to come around the corner. this is pretty much an endgame fun trick when rines are dug in. if they have ha this doesnt work nearly as well. but you can rack up some impressive xeno kills on those desperate vanilla rines. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I disagree with it but thats just my opinion. I dont really thing you need SoF to know when to xeno them. :/ just opinion though.
  • BallistoBallisto Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16503Members
    you sure as hell dont NEED it... but i find it helps. cause doesnt it suck when you xeno, run around a corner, and the marines arent there and you blow up for nothing? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FrappesFrappes Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22775Members
    If you got the res and just wanna have some real fun, get Cara,Celerity and SoF and go get them >) Yes, it needs time to evolve all 3, but with them you re unstoppable. Also good trick is to first Leap then quickly change xeno and do it. SoF is good, it lets you plan when you re go around that corner, instead of trying to calculate with bullets flying at you.
  • BallistoBallisto Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16503Members
    i always run out of energy and explode on nothing when i try to do the xeno leap <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • The_IRSThe_IRS Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23798Members
    The clerg/cara works the best, SoF just takes more time. I just xeno spam, run in, blow up, and come back again
  • ElusiveLlamaElusiveLlama Join Date: 2003-10-19 Member: 21787Members
    Whenever it's end-game, I always go SoF...never cloaking. It's like an in-game wall h4x.

    Fade: acid-rocket anything you see that is highlighted with a red circle

    Skulk: Go for the largest concentrations of red circles and xenocide

    Gorge: hmm...not very useful as gorgies are not suited for combat, but still useful anyway

    Lerk: useful for gassing and targeting with lerk spikes

    Onos: have a good idea of where to direct the stomp spam, so as to stun as many marines as possible
  • BallistoBallisto Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16503Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ElusiveLlama+Dec 1 2003, 08:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElusiveLlama @ Dec 1 2003, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Gorge: hmm...not very useful as gorgies are not suited for combat, but still useful anyway <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hell i use it so i know when to run
  • Doobie_DanDoobie_Dan Join Date: 2003-10-23 Member: 21892Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--ElusiveLlama+Dec 1 2003, 08:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElusiveLlama @ Dec 1 2003, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Whenever it's end-game, I always go SoF...never cloaking. It's like an in-game wall h4x. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    aka motion tracking <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • The_IRSThe_IRS Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23798Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Doobie Dan+Dec 1 2003, 09:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Doobie Dan @ Dec 1 2003, 09:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--ElusiveLlama+Dec 1 2003, 08:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElusiveLlama @ Dec 1 2003, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Whenever it's end-game, I always go SoF...never cloaking.  It's like an in-game wall h4x. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    aka motion tracking <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    DOOBIE IS A MARINE! XENO HIM!

    *Explodes*
  • ElusiveLlamaElusiveLlama Join Date: 2003-10-19 Member: 21787Members
    But doesn't motion tracking only show when the alien is moving, whereas SoF is active whether the marine is moving or not?
  • StoatBringerStoatBringer Join Date: 2003-06-09 Member: 17144Members, Constellation
    When marines are dug in, I find it's worth taking the time to get celerity, SoF and carapace. This allows you to see where to strike, get in very quickly and survive any stray bullets before you xenocide. Being a precision skulk-bomb like that allows you to do far more damage that just running in and hoping for the best. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    you don't need SoF, but i like to use it when i am going for killing the whole marine team <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ElusiveLlama+Dec 1 2003, 06:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElusiveLlama @ Dec 1 2003, 06:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But doesn't motion tracking only show when the alien is moving, whereas SoF is active whether the marine is moving or not? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, but if the alien circle stops moving then you know where they are anyway.
  • ChiakiChiaki Join Date: 2003-10-19 Member: 21790Members
    <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> Scent of Fear owns......I was once in NS_something, I cant remember WTH its called, but its the map with Refinery, Feedwater and Engine. we had just gotten all 3 hives up, and 3 SC, and I saw alot in Refinery....thought I'd check it out. It seemed that the marines had planned to relocate there, and were building a CC

    The fun thing was, it was up high, op the ladders, and there were like 12 ppl there (Surftown, 30 players on some servers) and I just leaped up into the air, twice, missing them CLEARLY on my first leap, the marines were shooting the Ground, I assume they couldnt see me properly due to a nearby SC or something, but anyway they didnt hit me

    My clanmate had picked up the action, and (as lerk) was gassing the crowd

    I had adrenaline, not celerity, so I could leap some

    I ended with falling down in a marine cluster, next the the CC being built.....and I chose to go boom

    I killed 5 marines (w00t <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ) and 5 marines died too, but not from my blast, but cause they fell down and died hitting the ground <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I think 20 ppl said lol within the next 10 seconds......

    SoF owns.......as gorge I have it....like Ballisto I use it to know when to run <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ClashenClashen Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20087Members
    edited December 2003
    Oh, wrong thread <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Ignore me.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Chiaki+Dec 13 2003, 11:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chiaki @ Dec 13 2003, 11:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> Scent of Fear owns......I was once in NS_something, I cant remember WTH its called, but its the map with Refinery, Feedwater and Engine. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's ns_Bast.

    I just wish you got RFK if your xeno knocked guys to their doom though...
  • S_BadguyS_Badguy Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23925Members
    Hhhhehehe... an even better xeno tip:
    silence + xeno
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> (silence)
    BOOM
  • Gangsta_MonkeyGangsta_Monkey Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24589Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ph34r+Dec 14 2003, 04:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ph34r @ Dec 14 2003, 04:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hhhhehehe... an even better xeno tip:
    silence + xeno
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> (silence)
    BOOM <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> I don get it <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • c0ke_for_the_lungsc0ke_for_the_lungs Join Date: 2003-12-25 Member: 24751Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--i'm lost+Dec 4 2003, 10:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Dec 4 2003, 10:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--ElusiveLlama+Dec 1 2003, 06:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElusiveLlama @ Dec 1 2003, 06:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But doesn't motion tracking only show when the alien is moving, whereas SoF is active whether the marine is moving or not? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, but if the alien circle stops moving then you know where they are anyway. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, motion tracking only shows aliens who are running. An alien can easily cloak and walk around, then sneak up on <u>YOU</u> when you attempt to go check where you think they might be.

    Anway on the main topic; Scent of Fear owns cloaking most of the time, especially when the marines don't have MT. For instance; let say you're a fade cloaked in a corner and 4 marines come around it weilding hmgs and yes, you know somthings coming. Well good luck, because chances are you'll attack the first one that you see, unaware of the other 2 behind him (this is how most aliens find their deaths). Now lets say you have Scent of Fear and you know all three are coming. Then, you'd probably wait for them to pass untill their eyes are shut, then pick off the guy in the back. Something like; it's better to be aware than to be hidden and to not be aware.

    Well thats just my opinion, and its obviously not well thought out, but out of experience I believe in Scent of Fear most of the time and mabye a bit of cloaking during earlier times in the game.
  • GrillkohleGrillkohle Join Date: 2003-12-23 Member: 24695Members, Constellation
    Motion tracking detects any movement, it does not matter wether you are cloaked or not (unless you are next to a sensory chamber, I think). If you have cloaking and you are walking, you will still be visible with motion tracking.

    My best xenocide experience so far was when I just jumped in hoping the best. After the explosion, since the top right corner was full, I had to pop up my console to count that I just blasted 8 vanilla rines to hell.
  • BallistoBallisto Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16503Members
    Wow... gravedigging for threads... (no problem if its my thread! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )

    The main problem with cloaking is that it can be redundant if there are sc's everywhere (which there should be if your gorges are doing their jobs).

    I find that as a skulk it pwns. Its soooooo funny to be cloaked in a room and chuckle. Scares the crap out of marines. They shoot everywhere and still can't find you, and then you go and pwn them.

    Xenoing heavies is great fun too!!!! Try to sneak up behind them and explode on the guys welding - they're the hurt ones, pick em off!!!
  • fury_l6lfury_l6l Join Date: 2003-12-27 Member: 24795Banned
    as a proud rine, ive never been xenoed <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    ive been caught in xeno splash dmg, but never killed. if they have xeno, i usually will have ha + hmg and they wont get too close.



    but for cloaking with sof as a fade, lol just stand in the middle of a hallway and let a marine walk into you, they think they're lagging, show em they arent!
  • BallistoBallisto Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16503Members
    Or they light you up with their hmg!!!!

    It's fun to cloakwalk behind a group of marines and then xeno.

    It's even more fun to be cloaked in a room and chuckle. Freaks the crap out of them.
  • gosuckonagoatgosuckonagoat Join Date: 2004-01-01 Member: 24941Members
    edited January 2004
    i just go in for the kill by waiting in the vents until a sutible time or charging in andrunning up a small rial into the maine base. no need for anything fancy, only SoF, because your going on a suicide run, otherwise, if i really wanted to do some fun, go onos and devour everyone that trys to get in my way.

    although, if someoen is stupid enough to build sensory on the 2nd hive, ill sneak in the marine base and try to find a good place where noone wil lookk and cloak, hoping noone will notie me, and when we get our thrid hive up, wait for a load of marines to be crowded around the armoury or smething, and while being silient, xeno them all
  • Gangsta_MonkeyGangsta_Monkey Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24589Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Fury_161+Dec 31 2003, 12:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fury_161 @ Dec 31 2003, 12:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> as a proud rine, ive never been xenoed <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    ive been caught in xeno splash dmg, but never killed. if they have xeno, i usually will have ha + hmg and they wont get too close.



    but for cloaking with sof as a fade, lol just stand in the middle of a hallway and let a marine walk into you, they think they're lagging, show em they arent! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Onos is better all of a sudden they his you and they are like "WTH???" then *CHOMP*! Its fun especialy with scilence.
  • Arsenic0Arsenic0 Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26705Members
    I do this all the time..although typically i only go Xeno Skulk if they are all camping their CC/base and not really making an effort to push outwards...

    Silence/Cloaking is also very valuble..of course this is only in CO maps...you can usually cloak into their base and hide in a corner and wait until you see the perfect clump of people, xeno, and leap and kaboom.
  • kltower4kltower4 Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19855Members
    Hi guys. I got a Xeno tip to share too. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    In combat if I want to be a Xeno'cider, I'll get all ability upgrades immediately. Later, I'll get Cara (to last longer agianst guns).

    The Strategy
    ************************
    Since you got all abilities, that means you have leap. What I do is I estimate where the more concentrated marines are. Then just when I'm about to reach there, I press and activate Xeno. When the Xeno count down is ticking, I leap into the bunch of sucka marines. Very quickly, I change my weapon to bite in which it will weaken and deal them damage. Try to bite each marine at least once as it increases the number of kills you'll get. Ultimately when my Xeno kicks in becuase I've weaken some marines, my Xeno will always get kills.

    There you go. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> Here's my ultimate guide in Xenociding. Happy Self-Destructing!!! <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BallistoBallisto Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16503Members
    WOW this thread survived into 3.0!! W00t!! Brought back from the dead twice!!
    </gloating>

    I'm pretty sure xeno does more damage in 3.0 with the new armor system and stuff. A GREAT target is a clump of marines in spores - you can get tons of kills this way!
  • HIMB4mHIMB4m Join Date: 2004-02-11 Member: 26376Members
    lol, thats the funniest ns moment ive heard in a while....lol gj!
  • RoverRover blargh Join Date: 2003-09-23 Member: 21139Members
    When the marines are outside of their base: cloaking - silence (-cara if ya got the res)

    When they're inside of their base, they uncloak you with the obs so: sof - celerity(run)/adren(leap) (-cara if ya got the res)


    Well, at least that's my opinion <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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