How Many People For A Good Game?

hometack · December 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">What were the makers intending?</div> Before anyone jumps on me, I did do a search for anything related to my topic and came up empty handed. With that said...

What's the right number of people for the best gameplay? What did the creators have in mind when they made NS?

I play a lot of small LAN Games, 5 on 5, but I always find Marines seem to have a large advantage because of our near infinite resources. Now, this could be blamed on my commanding style, or just the way of the game, but with only 4 marines running around, even with upgrades and expensive weaponry, it seems difficult to spend nearly as much as I was making. This seems to be a marine advantge, for I could drop siege cannon bases and sensor pulses at a whim, without having any worries about resources. It was also sort of unexciting, having to budget resources is half the challange of a good commander.

Are my conclusions completely unfounded in this?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the resource tick is 4 seconds. Is there anyway to make the resource tick longer to 6, or 8 seconds for smaller games? What sort of balancing issues would that create?

ethTheMedic1 · December 2003

your aliens are no good =/

try switching it up.

typical_skeleton · December 2003

seems like the average playtest game was much, much larger.

but clan matches are typically 6v6, yeah?.. so maybe it is more closely related to the skill level. double that is probably closer to where you need to be. =P

hometack · December 2003

Yes, I did leave out the detail that all people involved we're pretty new players. I guess that does make a huge impact.

Cold_NiTe · December 2003

Beta Test matches tend to be larger, but the reasons for that may or may not be for Beta Testing purposes. Yes as I understand it, clan matches are 6v6. At 5v5 the alien team's Gorge should be getting plenty of res, they may be losing because they aren't used to the system. Being new does make a pretty big difference. To get better you have several choices; A.) Start doing PUG's (Pick-up Games) against other people. B.) Formalize a clan and play other small-time clans for training. Playing Big-Time clans is not likely to teach you much, unless they go out of their way to teach you. C.) PUB play, and lots of it. It will be kind of random, but I guarantee it will be interesting.

Depending on your definition of Newbie, and what you need to learn, one of these three choices might help you get more practice more quickly than the others. (Personally I like PUB play but that is just me.)

ethTheMedic1 · December 2003

Well......

Yea.

Aliens are HARDER to play.

As many (or the only guide I read at the time (1.04))

It said. Go Marine, your too sucky to go alien yet. (dont get in the comm chair, unless you want to be ejected/kicked) (it was a humourous guide by the way.) Once you get the feel of things, like after a few games, then you can go alien.

Trust me, Advanced rine against noob alien can be described in emoticon.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> <--------------------------- <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> ................................ <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'>

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'> x50 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>

10 Mins Later.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Cold_NiTe · December 2003

There is that too... Aliens do take more getting used to, but if you get really good with them, skill becomes a greater factor in winning battles. So having the people who usually play alien in your games go pub is an easy enough remedy to your problem. At least it requires the least effort and with enough play time they are bound to improve. It may just be that they are not used to it.

hometack · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (§ethTheMedic. @ Dec 30 2003, 05:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Well......

Yea.

Aliens are HARDER to play.

As many (or the only guide I read at the time (1.04))

It said. Go Marine, your too sucky to go alien yet. (dont get in the comm chair, unless you want to be ejected/kicked) (it was a humourous guide by the way.) Once you get the feel of things, like after a few games, then you can go alien.

Trust me, Advanced rine against noob alien can be described in emoticon.

<img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> <--------------------------- <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'>
<img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> ................................ <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'>

<img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'> <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'> x50 <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>

10 Mins Later.

<img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

<img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Don't really understand what you were trying to say...

ethTheMedic1 · December 2003

Em.

More like, they all run in.

then they get shot.

Also skulks try to run in, and face alot of turrets.

CrapinaBottle · December 2003

i think that a good amount would be human 6 vs alien 5
because human takes more res all together, and les ppl bugging about no res for guns + amor
5 ppl for aliens because then u get res faster = ONOS <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'>
from CrapinaBottle
play MAX PAYNE

Ahnteis · December 2003

12-16 players (6-8 per team)

How Many People For A Good Game?

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