We've got cs on the run...
Fam
Diaper-Wearing Dog On A Ball Join Date: 2002-02-17 Member: 222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
Diaper-Wearing Dog On A Ball Join Date: 2002-02-17 Member: 222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
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Firendly competition? Competition never hurt the soul!
But yes Fam, nice work - and you pwn.
/me starst chanting aswell *PHL*...*PHL*
/me adds to to his arsenal of PR material to spam on forums.
Most of use(the ns regulars) think CS is teh fun. Just that the cheaters and all
by coil.
1) Rounds are three minutes or less (usually 1-2). The amount of depth to be found in 3 minutes of gameplay is insufficient to drown an anorexic, two-dimensional baby midget.
2) Repeating the same 1-2 minutes 25 times takes it from "shallow" to "mind-numbing."
3) There are a *few* weapons in the game that are simply better than any of the others; therefore, these are the only weapons ever used. As is true of the gameplay, there is no variation in weapon choice.
4) It claims to be a teamplay mod, but is not. It is team deathmatch. This means:
a) A single player with enough skill can win a round single-handedly.
b) Therefore, players try to carry the server, thereby eliminating any last chance for teamplay elements.
5) The two teams are essentially differently skinned copies. Only a few weapons are unique to one side or another.
6) The community is comprised primarily of whining brainless idiots too absorbed in their own score to remember that it's supposed to be fun.
Now, don't get me wrong... in the right circumstances, CS can be quite fun. EC Clan practices are enjoyable. But it's still just team DM, and after about 90 minutes my brain starts to melt from the repetition.
Comparatively, Natural Selection:
1) Games last from 5 minutes to over an hour, averaging around 30 minutes. The battles fought over the enormous maps provide a *limitless* number of unique experiences. If you doubt me, I ask you why the "Frontlines" thread has 77 pages on it, when only about 15-20 playtesters post stories in it.
2) Generally, you will play a map once or twice before cycling. Boredom does not happen.
3) Every weapon has a time and a place to be used. Even when aliens have 3 hives, a skulk will still find use for his bite. Even when the commander has access to HMGs, GLs, Heavy Armor, and Jetpacks; a LMG-carrying marine can still fill an essential scout role.
4) It is true teamplay. Scores do not matter; the only thing that matters is which TEAM is left standing.
a) A lone marine will not last long.
b) Aliens provide a venue for the DMers among us; they have scores and can effectively fight solo (since retreating for healing, managing RPs, etc is entirely individual).
5) Not only are the teams different; there is virtually no overlap between the two teams in terms of abilities. Gameplay is unique depending which side you are playing.
6) We can only hope. I have a feeling the complexity and the required teamplay will provide NS with a generally more intelligent and less llamatastic community.
That was beautiful, Coil.
Love the piccy. Run little Cs, run. <!--emo&::onos::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tiny.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::onos::'><!--endemo-->
CS is terrible for <b>everyone</b>!1 <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
If CS was terrible for everyone then no-one would play it. It's just that the CS community isn't very welcoming (not to put too fine a point on it) and so not a nice place for newbies.
I hope that NS doesn't cause the entire CS community to migrate over here... that would be really irritating.
Anyway: Nice one, Fam!
i reckon i could use <i>IGNORANT</i> just <i>one more time.</i> there we go.
I have been tring to got my friend to quit playing that game and try somthing else, but i fear he has lost the way and the light no longer shines in his eyes.
HELL! he wont even try playing single player games anymore!
i reckon i could use <i>IGNORANT</i> just <i>one more time.</i> there we go.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I really can't agree with this because the game itself is quite fun. Id agree that the community sucks. But, to say that everyone plays it because they are ignorant to what else there is..... that is also ignorant. Maybe you dont like the concept of realalistic shooters in the first place, but as a realistic shooter CS does its job, using a nice balance between realism, difficulty, and fun.
On an average public server I'd have to agree with coil, the gameplay can be mind numbing and often is team DM. But, when i play with my friends, we use all kinds of teamwork and outplay the deathmatchers everytime. CS has its potential for great moments in teamplay and should not be bashed itself. The community is whats at fault, because of how they play the game. yarg.... im done, sorry all.
WOOHOO! Spanish class pays off! Not for talking to spanish people, mind you, but for reading computer game fan sites!
W00t!
<!--EDIT|Fam|Oct. 08 2002,16:22-->
I'm from that site and the day Fam posted that on IRC I asked him for permission to put it as POTW, and he accepted (I still have the log if you want me to prove that)
In fact, in the POTW you can read: "Thanks to Fam (even if he doesn't read this)" in spanish.
Thx for the warning, but it's no necessary I think