Radeon 9800 Pro Problems

TriPhaseTriPhase Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6110Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">ehm, bad fps</div> I have a 2.8 Ghertz, 512 MB pc-2700 Ram, radeon 9800 pro, running on winXP.. all my gfx card settings are on high performance, fps_max 101, rate set at 9999, subdiv npatch, trueform all off.. and yet when i look into a teched out marine base, i drop to 50 fps..
Its kind of strange cause i hear about all these people with 9600 pros, ge4's and other cards getting 100's

Whats the deal, can anyone help ??

I tried www.ati.com, all they do is point you to there crubby FAQ stuff... nothing helps me from there..

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  • FlowyFlowy Join Date: 2003-12-22 Member: 24645Members, Constellation
    I have the same problems with my Ati Radeon 9800 Pro,Athlon XP 2200+,512DDR and newest driver
  • shadowkillershadowkiller Join Date: 2003-10-12 Member: 21637Members
    as do I, i started a thread and tried to get the dev to look at it, i even e-mailed flayra and nothing.... sheeze... its under speaking of the tourney and ati
  • TriPhaseTriPhase Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6110Members, Constellation
    its quite annoying considering i worked all summer for this cpu and, well.. you get the point
  • MaxMax Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    Flayra uses a Radeon 9800 Pro and he says NS works great for him.

    Are you using OpenGL mode or Direct3D mode?

    Max
  • TriPhaseTriPhase Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6110Members, Constellation
    OpenGL 1024X768 ( i think thats right )
  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    Whats wrong with 50 FPS? I wish I got 50 FPS. And I have a Radeon 9800 Pro.
  • paranoid1paranoid1 Join Date: 2003-06-07 Member: 17072Members
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->CyberMantis

    Ok, after some research i have come up with a list for the commands for highest quality. The improvement is due to the higher texture sampling by the gl_max_size. The default is 512, but by increasing to 2048, it allows for approximately double the texture quality on non-static objects. Also, these settings prevent the engine from scaling details down, forcing max quality every time you start the game.

    INSTRUCTIONS:
    1. goto your nsp directory in the steam folder
    2. make a notepad file and call it w/e you want
    3. add the following to it:

    gl_picmip "0"
    gl_max_size "2048"
    cl_cmdrate "999"
    GL_TEXTUREMODE "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR"
    fastsprites "0"
    gl_playermip "0"
    gl_smoothmodels "0"
    cl_highmodels "0"
    gl_round_down "0"
    r_dynamic "1"
    r_shadows "1"
    gl_dither "1"
    fps_max "999"

    4. now save as and make the name userconfig.cfg (make sure that you save as all files, not a .txt file.
    5. Now it will look a ton better, post results if you like it.

    The comdrate is 999 because it will technically remove any input lag, it prolly doesn't do anything because the diff of 1/1000 of a second is very little... Also, if you wish, you should change the default fps_max from 60 to say 85. If you want the smoothest possible, set to 999.

    More visual quality can be obtained by turning af and aa on, dependant on your video card and drivers. This doens't require any ns change, and isn't really a way to improve ns graphics on the whole, it just improves iq and is are extra useable features.

    This post has been edited by CyberMantis on Jan 5 2004, 02:49 PM <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This was posted by cybermantis, if your running STEAM if might work for you?


    I also have a P4 2.8HT 1 gig DDR400 and Radeon 9000 running on XP.

    I run in 32bpp with everything in high detail at 1600 x 1200
    Anti-Aliasing - Disabled
    anisotropic Filtering - application prefrence
    texture prefrence - high quality
    mipmap detail level - high quality
    wait for V/sync - Always off
    TRUFORM - Always off

    I can run at a steady 99 fps with drops to the mid 80's in heavy battle action.

    After adding Cybermantis settings i almost always run at 99 now with no dropping

    Hope it helps
  • RetalesRetales Panigg cultist Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19180Members
    I also have problems with Radeon 9800 pro and HL & NS. I get good fps, but whenever I press ESC to return to menus, I only get a black screen. If I use Direct 3D, I can still return to game by pressing ESC again. And I think that menus are useable, though I can't see anything. But if I use OpenGL, pressing ESC will crash the WHOLE computer.

    I also have strange problems with weapons' crosshairs. Look at the picture, only some parts of the crosshair are visible:
  • TriPhaseTriPhase Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6110Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin------paranoid----+Jan 5 2004, 09:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (----paranoid---- @ Jan 5 2004, 09:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->CyberMantis

    Ok, after some research i have come up with a list for the commands for highest quality. The improvement is due to the higher texture sampling by the gl_max_size. The default is 512, but by increasing to 2048, it allows for approximately double the texture quality on non-static objects. Also, these settings prevent the engine from scaling details down, forcing max quality every time you start the game.

    INSTRUCTIONS:
    1. goto your nsp directory in the steam folder
    2. make a notepad file and call it w/e you want
    3. add the following to it:

    gl_picmip "0"
    gl_max_size "2048"
    cl_cmdrate "999"
    GL_TEXTUREMODE "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR"
    fastsprites "0"
    gl_playermip "0"
    gl_smoothmodels "0"
    cl_highmodels "0"
    gl_round_down "0"
    r_dynamic "1"
    r_shadows "1"
    gl_dither "1"
    fps_max "999"

    4. now save as and make the name userconfig.cfg (make sure that you save as all files, not a .txt file.
    5. Now it will look a ton better, post results if you like it.

    The comdrate is 999 because it will technically remove any input lag, it prolly doesn't do anything because the diff of 1/1000 of a second is very little... Also, if you wish, you should change the default fps_max from 60 to say 85. If you want the smoothest possible, set to 999.

    More visual quality can be obtained by turning af and aa on, dependant on your video card and drivers. This doens't require any ns change, and isn't really a way to improve ns graphics on the whole, it just improves iq and is are extra useable features.

    This post has been edited by CyberMantis on Jan 5 2004, 02:49 PM <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This was posted by cybermantis, if your running STEAM if might work for you?


    I also have a P4 2.8HT 1 gig DDR400 and Radeon 9000 running on XP.

    I run in 32bpp with everything in high detail at 1600 x 1200
    Anti-Aliasing - Disabled
    anisotropic Filtering - application prefrence
    texture prefrence - high quality
    mipmap detail level - high quality
    wait for V/sync - Always off
    TRUFORM - Always off

    I can run at a steady 99 fps with drops to the mid 80's in heavy battle action.

    After adding Cybermantis settings i almost always run at 99 now with no dropping

    Hope it helps <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    your kidding me right ?

    im running 1024 X678 or w.e, everything on highperformance, and im still droping to like 50, and thats with a 9800 ! you have a 9000 with everything at high quality and are getting 100 !. i have no luck.. ill try this and see if it helps me.. but i dont remember putting highquality settings making ur fps better...
  • paranoid1paranoid1 Join Date: 2003-06-07 Member: 17072Members
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ...it is worth a try.............with your machine specs you should be able to run at high def without loss of fps that you are getting and it might improve what you have?
  • TriPhaseTriPhase Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6110Members, Constellation
    actually the config increased my fps.. looking at a teched out marine base and im still at 100, ill see if i can push the settings on my card to high quality and see what happens.. i only droped to 50 once because we had, 8 aliens, 8 heavies, 20 siege cannons,, fire EVERYWHERE.. and well.. u get the point >:]

    thx,
    tri
  • weywey Cineastè Join Date: 2003-06-01 Member: 16910Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    I have a 9700pro (2800+ barton, 1gbyte ddr ram), and i managed to keep my fps high.

    I used the omega drivers a long time because they gave me some extra fps in hl, but the newer ati drivers give me the same speed so i use them now.

    But if you have serious performance problems you could try the omega drivers.
  • S2R2S2R2 Join Date: 2003-09-25 Member: 21209Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Retales+Jan 6 2004, 12:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Retales @ Jan 6 2004, 12:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I also have strange problems with weapons' crosshairs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not just you I started having those too but i have no idea why. One day it just changed on me.
  • weywey Cineastè Join Date: 2003-06-01 Member: 16910Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    hmm crosshairs can be crashed with 'gl_mipmap' and 'gl_playermip' variables. That happened to me when i played around with them :/ .
    Both should be 0 as far as i know. (for best graphics)
  • Ashaman_JoeAshaman_Joe Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22559Members, Constellation
    I can get crosshairs lilke that if I set my gamma too low. That may explain your crosshair problem.
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