Discrimination
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Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Implicit Association</div> <a href='https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/measureyourattitudes.html' target='_blank'>Implicit Association Test</a>
Take the test to see if maybe you inherently discriminate against certain types of people.
<a href='http://www.rubak.com/article.cfm?ID=6' target='_blank'>View on Racism : Rubak.com</a>
<u><b>Views on Racism</b> : <i>Rubak.com</i></u>
"<i>This article came about for an interesting reason. On March 20, 2000, the Discovery Channel ran a show called "How Biased Are You?"
Personally I love the Discovery Channel. I often tape many shows for future reference (The police have my permission to use this as an admission of guilt if I am ever accused of violating copyrights.)
The main point of the show was that racism is much more ingrained into society then we would like to admit.
This bothers me greatly and it should bother you too.
First off, let's define "racism".
My trusty Oxford Desk Dictionary and Thesaurus (1997 Edition) defines it as
Belief in the superiority of a particular race; prejudice based on this
Antagonism toward other races.
See also: Apartheid, Bigotry.
The good folks at InfoPlease.com has a similar definition.
Let's look at this a little closer. Both available definitions describe a feeling of superiority for a particular race. This, by definition, includes a feeling of inferiority for all the other races. Is this a good or a bad thing?
Depends on who you ask. Those that are able to gain from the proposed actions under a racist movement tend to think it's a good thing. Those that it hurt are obviously against it.
Personally, I think it's a bad thing, even though I am a white male. My personal beliefs destroy any concepts of "This race is better than that race." I believe nothing good can come from that type of thinking.
The show also brought to light a test being done at the famous Yale University called the Implicit Association Test. (You can take these tests yourself online) in fact they have four different tests analyzing your preference towards race, sexes, age, and of all things, political people. I suggest taking these tests to see how you do.
Some of the underlying information is rather interesting. The testing done on the show mentioned that whites who showed an unconscious preference toward whites viewed the information as negative proof of deep lying racism while blacks who showed preference toward blacks viewed the information as proof of their pride.
While it's not a bad thing to have pride in your heritage, this is completely different from viewing yourself as superior, as the definition states. We must be careful to not confuse pride with bigotry. Having and showing love for your race or heritage does NOT have to include derogatory actions, conscious or otherwise, towards others.
A perfect example is great sports heroes who, no matter how good they are, always compliment other athletes on their skills and/or personality because they know that when it comes to all that matters, there is no inventory on quality that can be hoarded.
What worries me most about racism isn't the fact that it exists, but how people try to reason it away.
One lady (a civil rights lawyer) on the show who took the test showed a high preference toward whites replied,
"I'm not surprised, (at my score) and I think it's because we live in an extremely racists society where messages are given to us in many different ways..."
Why would someone publicly try to blame "society" for their ingrained prejudiced? We all live in the exact same world. We are exposed to many of the same messages. Yet some are able to look at the information around and say "Hey, just because this answer comes up most of the time doesn't mean that it's the right answer."
And that's where the trick lies. If we grow up seeing and hearing mostly negative remarks, we can easily assume that this is the way things "should be" or "that's the ways things really are".
Do not fall into this trap. If everyone around you is giving you bad information about other races, than you should use this, not as an example of what to do, but as what NOT to do. Like they say:
"Some people's purpose in life is to serve as a good example of what not to do."</i> "
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Kind of interesting. I'm pretty skeptical towards how prevalent racism and discrimination is in our age. At least in the US it would gamble to say that it's not really prevalent. I may be biased since I live in California which has a wide range of ethnic groups.
I took two of the tests, one for bias against age, and one for Whites vs. African Americans.
For the age, I was "Moderately biased towards liking Young"
For the race, I was "Slightly biased towards liking African Americans" (I found this interesting, being a white male)
Take the test to see if maybe you inherently discriminate against certain types of people.
<a href='http://www.rubak.com/article.cfm?ID=6' target='_blank'>View on Racism : Rubak.com</a>
<u><b>Views on Racism</b> : <i>Rubak.com</i></u>
"<i>This article came about for an interesting reason. On March 20, 2000, the Discovery Channel ran a show called "How Biased Are You?"
Personally I love the Discovery Channel. I often tape many shows for future reference (The police have my permission to use this as an admission of guilt if I am ever accused of violating copyrights.)
The main point of the show was that racism is much more ingrained into society then we would like to admit.
This bothers me greatly and it should bother you too.
First off, let's define "racism".
My trusty Oxford Desk Dictionary and Thesaurus (1997 Edition) defines it as
Belief in the superiority of a particular race; prejudice based on this
Antagonism toward other races.
See also: Apartheid, Bigotry.
The good folks at InfoPlease.com has a similar definition.
Let's look at this a little closer. Both available definitions describe a feeling of superiority for a particular race. This, by definition, includes a feeling of inferiority for all the other races. Is this a good or a bad thing?
Depends on who you ask. Those that are able to gain from the proposed actions under a racist movement tend to think it's a good thing. Those that it hurt are obviously against it.
Personally, I think it's a bad thing, even though I am a white male. My personal beliefs destroy any concepts of "This race is better than that race." I believe nothing good can come from that type of thinking.
The show also brought to light a test being done at the famous Yale University called the Implicit Association Test. (You can take these tests yourself online) in fact they have four different tests analyzing your preference towards race, sexes, age, and of all things, political people. I suggest taking these tests to see how you do.
Some of the underlying information is rather interesting. The testing done on the show mentioned that whites who showed an unconscious preference toward whites viewed the information as negative proof of deep lying racism while blacks who showed preference toward blacks viewed the information as proof of their pride.
While it's not a bad thing to have pride in your heritage, this is completely different from viewing yourself as superior, as the definition states. We must be careful to not confuse pride with bigotry. Having and showing love for your race or heritage does NOT have to include derogatory actions, conscious or otherwise, towards others.
A perfect example is great sports heroes who, no matter how good they are, always compliment other athletes on their skills and/or personality because they know that when it comes to all that matters, there is no inventory on quality that can be hoarded.
What worries me most about racism isn't the fact that it exists, but how people try to reason it away.
One lady (a civil rights lawyer) on the show who took the test showed a high preference toward whites replied,
"I'm not surprised, (at my score) and I think it's because we live in an extremely racists society where messages are given to us in many different ways..."
Why would someone publicly try to blame "society" for their ingrained prejudiced? We all live in the exact same world. We are exposed to many of the same messages. Yet some are able to look at the information around and say "Hey, just because this answer comes up most of the time doesn't mean that it's the right answer."
And that's where the trick lies. If we grow up seeing and hearing mostly negative remarks, we can easily assume that this is the way things "should be" or "that's the ways things really are".
Do not fall into this trap. If everyone around you is giving you bad information about other races, than you should use this, not as an example of what to do, but as what NOT to do. Like they say:
"Some people's purpose in life is to serve as a good example of what not to do."</i> "
_____________________________________________
Kind of interesting. I'm pretty skeptical towards how prevalent racism and discrimination is in our age. At least in the US it would gamble to say that it's not really prevalent. I may be biased since I live in California which has a wide range of ethnic groups.
I took two of the tests, one for bias against age, and one for Whites vs. African Americans.
For the age, I was "Moderately biased towards liking Young"
For the race, I was "Slightly biased towards liking African Americans" (I found this interesting, being a white male)
Comments
Your data suggest a strong association between science and Male relative to Female.
Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for European American relative to African American.
I've known for a few years now that I want everyone in the world to be like me. So this isn't really a surprise.
Pretty much what I filled in after the test was over.
One thing that bothered me about the racism test, it got me used to one set of thinking, and then switched me over. Kinda like changing the keys on your keyboard - of couse once ur used to a for left and d for right, switching them vise versa will slow your reaction time down a little.
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That is either extremely bothersome AND racist ( or perhaps just biased ) or I am reading it completely wrong ( which is entirely possible ).
I just tried the age one, and messed it up big time on the last two..
perhaps I do hate old people, or at least think of them as evil and agonising...?
In any case, my results (as a female Japanese-American):
Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for African American relative to White American
Your data suggest a moderate automatic preference for Old relative to Young
That's the only one I did. Way to much work to do any others.
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That is either extremely bothersome AND racist ( or perhaps just biased ) or I am reading it completely wrong ( which is entirely possible ). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes it is. You see only whites can be rasist or white supremist for that matter. If a white person prefers the company of other whites then that person is a rasist. However, if a black wants to be with other blacks then he is just being "proud" of his heritage.
Why can one group be proud and the other group rasist for the same thing?
I'm probably as unpolitically correct as a person can be. Pretending to be colorblind isn't the way to lose discrimination. That approach is a little bit like not looking at freaks on the street, because you want them to think they are normal. The difference is obvious, so why pretend it isn't?
It is human nature to discriminate. If you see a conveyer belt and you see a green sphere pass.. one after another. After about 1000 of these, you are fairly sure the next will be a green sphere, but to your surprise, it is a red cube. Should you be punished for thinking this way? No, certainly not. This is the way our brains are wired so we can find patterns.
Of course, treating people badly only because they are of a certain race is wrong on all counts. I'm simply stating that there are obvious differences between the races, just like there are obvious differences between the sexes. They shouldn't be ignored.
Indeed... Some of those differences should be celebrated..... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Somewhat strong association of males with science.
Strong prefrence for George W. Bush over Franklin D. Roosevelt.
The President test seemed flawed, it kept having me associate Bush with good for so long that I was trained to do that, and when it switched on me I fumbled.
Slight preference for young relative to old.
~Yep, figured. I have a slight dislike of the baby boomer generation.
A moderate association between science and Male relative to Female.
~Yep, being male and loving science. If science was a person, to me, it would be a somewhat crazed guy in a lab coat.
A moderate preference for European Americans over African Americans.
~Has alot to do with being raised in the southeastern US and attending a school that had maybe one black student, and that student was a kindergardener I never really dealt with much. While I do have many black friends (all of them great people I'd swim through shark infested water to save) now that I've moved off to college and spread my wings a bit, I can't help but feel more comfortable around people within my "race" if in a room full of strangers.
Oh yeah, forgot one more thing. I can not stand ebonics or, African American Vernacular English....however you wish to put it. It's a real pain for me to get to know someone when they insist on speaking as if their tongue is numb. For me, like l33t speak, it's a divider. It makes me not want to try to understand a person, and simply dismiss them.
I had only learned exactly how to work the game by the second to last round, it took some serious getting used to.
I wonder if good whites had been assocatied with bad blacks first would I have been labeled racist?
Too bad this test doesn't account for such things, and therefore none of what the test finds is conclusive in my eyes.
I mean, by the time you get to the end you are finally used to this silly little game, and you are able to make tricks in your mind to help you go as fast as possible.
What the hell, do they expect me to do worse on the latter half with good whites and bad blacks after I've been playing the game for 4 minutes already? I think not, I improve with time.
This implicit assocation test is flawed right to the core.