[mpimp] Concept Rifle

Nottingham · January 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">Finished Model</div> First of all I have to say that i probably lied to you all two times in my last thread "Deepeyes Helmet".
1st I said that it would be my last model before moving on to 3ds... well as the model in this thread is made in ms3d that wasnt true <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>
2nd I promissed that I would finish the helmet but the way it looks now that wont happen.. maybe later...

Anyway.. this is the model of I rifle concept I drew a couple of days ago.
The beast consists of 5858 polys.
30 sided cylinders etc. adds a lot of them.

Concept
<img src='http://eternity8.cs-sweden.com/adam/model/rofleconcept01/rifleconcept.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

<span style='color:orange'><b><a href='http://eternity8.cs-sweden.com/adam/model/rofleconcept01/rifle.htm' target='_blank'>3D View HERE</a></b></span>

C&C is welcome.

Restrik · January 2004

Very nice...I like the grip, and the handel, though realistically (heh oops i said the R word) the clip may be a bit too far back for fast pace reloading. wouldn't mind seeing your animations for an actual ingame model though...

chis1 · January 2004

concept very nice

NOW LETS SEE IT RENDERED <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Griff-512 · January 2004

that looks awesome, in that 3d view, looks very cool, needs that grip in the concept and whoa, id love to have a go at animating it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

BAshh · January 2004

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'> just beautiful.

Zanid · January 2004

Thats the Lancer from PlanetSide with a rail on top...

Figgy · January 2004

That looks alot like a famas <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Delarosa · January 2004

very very very nice...

i'm sure that if you posted it, somone might take it as their job to mesh skin and animate it...

Chrono · January 2004

that is one hell of a sweet model only problem is the polys but i bet you can cut that down alot with optimizing and stuff

Nottingham · January 2004

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (chrono5454 @ Jan 18 2004, 08:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> that is one hell of a sweet model only problem is the polys but i bet you can cut that down alot with optimizing and stuff </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I could probably loose a acouple of hundreds just by replacing the cylinders with 12 sided instead of 30.
Theres also lots of other detail that I could cut down without anyone really noticing it.
however I wont do that unless I know someone is willing to give it a shot meshing it.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zanid @ Jan 18 2004, 06:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Thats the Lancer from PlanetSide with a rail on top...</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
No its not.. Maybe it looks like it but I have no idea cuz I have never played Plantside.
Plz dont start to post pics of it in the thread.. I know how to find it myself.

Nottingham · January 2004

Pics for you 56k'ers.. if you have bb connection check out the 3D view in the first post instead.

Renderd in Milkshape <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>
<img src='http://eternity8.cs-sweden.com/adam/model/rofleconcept01/rifle1.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://eternity8.cs-sweden.com/adam/model/rofleconcept01/rifle2.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Jimmeh · January 2004

I love it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Looks like a mix between SPAS shotty and FAMAS...

If this gets released i think i have myself a new LMG/HMG (whatever as long as its released)

Azrael2709 · January 2004

Could you tell me how to make the little grooves on the handle using ms3d? I still cant figure out how.

sheena_yanai · January 2004

looks like a pimped halo 2 rifle with spas12 foregrip

-Drake- · January 2004

very nice model tho it look a bit like a famas

Spetsnaz · January 2004

WOW :O PORPPER ownage, thats a sweet rifle! any chance of a hmg concept?

-Drake- · January 2004

how bout mine <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

mixed with a smart gun a 50 cal and some oher gun form killzone

(i always wanted to see it modeled)

sheena_yanai · January 2004

isnt the barell a bit thin for a .50?
anyway, i said it once and again.. this hmg is the pure seks. just right for the malice <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Nottingham · January 2004

Lets drop it and return to topic shall we?

it would be nice if atleastone of my topics would stay to the subject.. and Spetsnaz.. Yes there is a chance cuz im going to design pistol, sniperrifle, machinegun, combatrifle, knife, grenades, granadelauncher, soldiers, and enviroment for a story im working on. (probably 2 different weapons of each sort to) Hwver it will probably take some time if I am going to model all of them.

Dark_Soul · January 2004

great concept Notthinham, but as you know i don't like the round triggerguard

oh and Drake, where's the handle on yours? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Jamil · January 2004

Something is missing from underneath the foregrip that's in the concept sketch. I thought it looked better with it. Also, don't add the grooves on the foregrip, that's pretty wasteful. For example, when people make an M4 then don't model the grooves on the barrel. There is a lot of optimization that can be done, but overall a very good job.

Nottingham · January 2004

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jamil @ Jan 18 2004, 04:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Something is missing from underneath the foregrip that's in the concept sketch. I thought it looked better with it. Also, don't add the grooves on the foregrip, that's pretty wasteful. For example, when people make an M4 then don't model the grooves on the barrel. There is a lot of optimization that can be done, but overall a very good job.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I know the grooves are poly waste if your going to make a game model but as my work never gets meshed and skined I decided to make the grooves so you can se that they should be there. the "grip" under the grip i left out on purpose but im going to model it later on to see how it looks with it.

Jamil · January 2004

Never get UV mapped? That's pessimistic, unless you just don't want them to be used in games. If you released the mesh, I might work on it in my spare time. I've already done a couple, heck, I did burn's XM8 twice.

Nottingham · January 2004

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jamil @ Jan 18 2004, 04:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Never get UV mapped? That's pessimistic, unless you just don't want them to be used in games. If you released the mesh, I might work on it in my spare time. I've already done a couple, heck, I did burn's XM8 twice.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
well that sounds nice <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

I will model the thig you mentioned and optimize it a bit then I will release the model... ms3d or 3ds?

Jamil · January 2004

Doesn't matter. Don't fuss over smoothing groups yet. They might be lost.

Wolf_Kahler · January 2004

The sketch didn't do the final product justice.

Very nicely done.

The magazine could be given a little more room behind it. Lengthening the stock a little and maybe moving the mag a little more forward would do it all the way for me, I think, but that's just my personal taste.

By moving it forward, the reload anim [in theory, seeing as it'd probably not get done] could just be the hand moving back to press the release with the back of the thumb, the mag falls out, hand goes down for new mag, comes back, slaps it in.

Something like that. Plenty of room for moving it forward, I think.

Paranoia2MB · January 2004

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Restrik @ Jan 17 2004, 10:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Very nice...I like the grip, and the handel, though realistically (heh oops i said the R word) the clip may be a bit too far back for fast pace reloading. wouldn't mind seeing your animations for an actual ingame model though...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
And since when does a marine load fast on NS? lol

Awesome model though...makes me think of a futuristic Famas =)

[mpimp] Concept Rifle

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