What can the commanders see?

MessenjahMessenjah Join Date: 2002-10-04 Member: 1428Members
in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Sure this has been asked just can't find</div>I honestly tried a search, and I dont remember anything in the FAQ or at the RR but it seems like such an obvious topic that it must have been mentioned before.

Anyway, is the commander's LOS like in normal RTS where you see whatever your units and buildings see, or can the commander see the whole map or what?
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    what your units see, and at least some buildings if not all.
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  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    The whole map, but in units, you can only see what the marines see.
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  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    yes its like a normal RTS. :)

    you see the entire map (there is no fog of war), but the only time aliens appear to the commander is when a marine on ground can see them. but like in warcraft2, the sounds play regardless, so if there is a noisy builder in the room you are looking down on, you can hear.

    Also, due to the way the HL engine works, moving entities such as elevators are also updated. Meaning, you can tell when anyone uses an elevator...



    <!--EDIT|DOOManiac|Oct. 09 2002,01:31-->
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    what about buildings?
    I know the observatory even gives motion detection for a certain radius...
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    With the exception of the observatory and the alien sensory chamber, no structure has a sight radius.
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  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    soooooooooooooooooooooooo if a building builds a turret just out of ur range u cant see it but can hear o_O
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  • MCThornGristleMCThornGristle Join Date: 2002-06-06 Member: 733Members
    So, theoretically, the commander can see into, say, the girl's locker room?
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  • outerfroggy1outerfroggy1 Join Date: 2002-10-01 Member: 1401Members
    yes but he wont be able to see any girls without them being in the marines line of sight <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
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  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Is it line of site or is it circular site?
    (Can he see what a marine COULD see if he turned around)
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  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    It's true line of sight, meaning that an alien directly behind a marine won't be seen. (90% sure)
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  • ZawathZawath Join Date: 2002-07-28 Member: 1020Members
    What if someone cheats by using wallhack and that way sees all the aliens behind walls. If this happens, will the commander see the aliens too?
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Figure out this acronym:

    WTHK?



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  • Llama_KillerLlama_Killer Join Date: 2002-07-30 Member: 1029Members
    HATE THE HACKERS?
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  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    o_O?

    No clue, about the acronym, but no, it won't work like that, thankfully. Though wallhacking in this game is a bit... *shrug* pointless, due to the fact that once you get motion tracking, you can see aliens through walls anywho.
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Whoever figures it out first gets their name in lights on RR.org...
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  • QUADQUAD Join Date: 2002-07-17 Member: 963Members
    What The HieniKen?!
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  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    <!--QuoteBegin--Moleculor+Oct. 10 2002,01:14--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Moleculor @ Oct. 10 2002,01:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->It's true line of sight, meaning that an alien directly behind a marine won't be seen. (90% sure)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't like the sound of that. The commander can see all moving aliens within a radius of marines anyway can't he/she? Does this require a motion tracking upgrade?

    I would prefer that all aliens within LOS of a marine's head should be visible to the commander. I guess not knowing if an alien is directly behind a marine is pretty much a moot point, as that marine is most likely a meaty snack.

    --Scythe--

    MonsE: <b>W</b>hat <b>T</b>he <b>H</b>ec<b>k</b>?



    <!--EDIT|Scythe|Oct. 10 2002,10:56-->
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Still waiting for someone to figure out the acronym - once you do, I can unleash it all over the Internet...
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  • ZawathZawath Join Date: 2002-07-28 Member: 1020Members
    Give us a tip. Its impossible to figure it out when we don`t even know what is it about
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    The hint is based on the question that was asked right before. What could I have been saying in response?
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  • BillBill Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1108Members
    Who the hell knows?  <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Who The Hell Knows.

    bah!  I didn't even see Bill's answer.  Now I feel smart *and* SMRT.  <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->



    <!--EDIT|coil|Oct. 10 2002,12:22-->
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  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    I really, really, really hate acro-whatever-they-are
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  • BillBill Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1108Members
    Acrobats?
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Bill wins.
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  • BillBill Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1108Members
    All that acrophobia expierence finally pays off!
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