Random Team Always Puts Me As Alien

Klepto · February 2004

Did something get changed? I always end up on the alien team on co_ maps when I do random team, is this some sort of bug? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' />

Forlorn · February 2004

hahahahahaha no, people just enjoy stacking marines

Swiftspear · February 2004

I don't know what it is, I invite all my friends who have never played NS before and they gravitate towards marines, there is some strange univeral law that prevents newbs from liking aliens. I prefer aliens, so I rarely stack, but I can only play them so long before I get bored.

oOgA · February 2004

random team puts me more to aliens instead

Zek · February 2004

Random puts you on the smaller team first and foremost.

Swiftspear · February 2004

Therefore if people are always stacking marines, you will always be put on aliens. Basic logic isn't really that difficult, is it? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

taboofires · February 2004

Note: if someone joins a team at the same time as you, random team will get messed up, i.e. that marine who just jumped into the marine box won't prevent you from randoming to marine, messing up the teams.

This is mostly the fault of server configs: you can set it so that you can't join a team that is larger by 1, but the default is 2. Very irritating.

Evo · February 2004

'Random Team' should really be called "Auto Ballance", because thats all it does. BTW, is it just me, or when you go random when the teams are perfectly ballanced, do you always get stuck as a rine? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' />

Ah well, I tend not to use random anyways. Usually I just look at the teams, realize rines are stacked, and join aliens. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Vash_Fourty_Five_Lc · February 2004

At Swiftspear, isn't it obvious? If your any sort of person new to the NS scene, which would you choose first. Those cool looking Marine dudes with all the big GUNS and stuff. Or those icky icky Aliens with UGH close combat weapons. I played my first game of Combat last night. And the first thing I noticed.

"Wow, Marines sure are stacked. Must be all dem purdy upgrades." Indeed, by the end of a co_map we were 12 on 7, most people just tend to lean towards the team with the projectile weapons and cool explodey stuff. Aliens takes WAY more finesse imho, more than a newbie could muster. The good thing is, those who DO go aliens are usually those who are uber pwn Super Ninja Skulks at it. All the 'rines in a hallway won't stop one Super Skulk with stealthy paws.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /> *PWNED* <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /> *PWNED*

btw, I'm one of those who sway towards marines for exactly the reasons I listed. Not a newb, just more comfratable working within a Strike Team of marines. Aliens are much to soloish for me. (That and I suck hard at CQB)

Jaml · February 2004

Maybe, just maybe they stack marines cause:

-Marines win 80% of the game
-Marines have ranged weapons
-Marines can nade spam therefore get multiple kills and a kill death ratio of 50/8 (With GL no prob)
-Marines have the leet JP
-Everyone knows how to play as marine cause they handle like in other shooters

Nobody goes alien cause:
-Skulks are worth **** against better weaponery
-Aliens have no worthy ranged weapons
-Higher alien lifeforms except onos need loads of skill to use and are frustrating for newbies but in the hand of a skilled player they are overpowered so they can´t be made any stronger
-Gorging sucks
-Hive healing sucks
-Aliens are not as fun to play as marines

Aliens are just too newbie unfriendly. They require too much skill to be effective while anyone can rack up kills as marine cause marines can withstand more damage and deal the pain.Goring a HA as onos is a pain in the ****, even LA take forever while you die in like 5 secs. From the alien top tech i would expect one hit kills against any form of LA marines just like skulks die in one shottie/nade blast or a few HMG bullets. Nearly every game the rines shoot the **** off the alien a$$es time and time again so nobody wants to play aliens.

Swiftspear · February 2004

I guess we shouldn't be complaining when aliens are winning 70% of the regular NS games then; only skilled players go aliens so they should be skillstacked nearly every game <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

weggy · February 2004

Pfft, Aliens are sooo much more fun that marines. Gorging is fun, ambushing people is fun, and everything about them is so cool. And by cool, I mean totally sweet.

I <3 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' />

Jaml · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (weggy @ Feb 2 2004, 10:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Pfft, Aliens are sooo much more fun that marines. Gorging is fun, ambushing people is fun, and everything about them is so cool. And by cool, I mean totally sweet.

I <3 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Then why isn?t the alien side the one thats stacked? There are very few people that think aliens are more fun and the fact that on every server i?ve been the rine side is stacked says everything. And try to ask the people why they stack rines and probably you will hear:
"Aliens suxxorz, marines roxxorz"
or something similar. And just look at all the rants about how useless the gorge is and how the players want it to be taken out and it should tell you how "fun" gorging is. Sure it may be fun for you, theres always someone that thinks something is fun while 90% of the people say it sucks. But if NS wants to remain popular it has to be fun for the 90% not for the 10% of the community.

samus · February 2004

Aliens are seriously 100x better than rines. I'm not only a much better alien, but once you get good at skulking then nobody can touch you. Everybody always stacks rines because it's easier and they're more experienced with ranged battles from other fps and not melee battles like aliens.

Klepto · February 2004

I'm not exactly new to NS <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /> More of a commentary on how I felt about team stacking <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

I think it sucks that the aliens have no set of ranged weapons anymore on co maps, when most of the levels are setup to really favor marines.

Malakai1 · February 2004

In NS: Classic I rarely go Marine unless the teams are stacked. Aliens are 100x more fun to play than marines.

In combat, I still like aliens way more, and I am alien more often tham marine, but marines are occasionally kinda fun as well.

I'm playing lots of combat as aliens now to get more skilled at the higher life forms for NS: Classic ownage. I have found since combat came out, your average skulk in NS: Classic is 100x better than before. I find myself often killing groups of 2-3 marines in classic because of all the skulking experience I get in combat.

I just need to do the same with fade and I will be set.

LeetLlama · February 2004

The type of people who are team stackers don't really care about anything you guys have said. Though they might be valid reasons for you to team stack (not that you do? Riiiight? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />), they are too complex for the masses.

Why do people join the marines? Because the marines have the most players, the team with the most players is going to win, so they join that team. Why did the marines have the most players in the first place? In the last game, the marines had the most players, and they won, so in this game...

It's a nice never ending cycle of retardation. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

The number one reason why people play online games is to win; as long as people are winning they are happy. They don't care how or why, but as long as they are winning they are happy. Things like "having a good fight" or "skill" are in such a distance second that they are irrelevant to the average player.

It's going to take a month or two of alien victories to show the masses that being on the marines is not an automatic win, just like in the last beta when the marines always lost. By that time though, you will have been playing aliens so much in the past few months that it does not matter that the teams are stacked you can make up for the difference in players. Or you have been playing marines for the past few months, and you feel like a change. The aliens have been doing pretty well the past few weeks, even with the bad teams....

meatball · February 2004

i have always played alien more than rines, mostly becauseof the extreme marine stack in 1.0x (the good ol' jp/hmg rush). and its more fun to sneak around and kill that sorry maine that have either lost his way or just had to check that chuckle around the corner.

MrMojo · February 2004

The people don't join marines, they join the team that's most likely to win. They think the marines are going to win, they stack marines on pulse. Aliens dominate, and the next round people stack aliens.

Sad, really.

MrWizard · February 2004

Aliens are way fun! Especially when you play as aliens and win a co map in 39 seconds <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

then right after that we gorge rushed on a map.... but they moved to a hive.... but we eventually won...

I've seen a lot of marine wins, but also a lot of alien wins. I'm not saying its 50/50, but like 35/65 marine favor in winning, but 85% of the pubs i've played on its either marines have 2 man advantage (always) or get that 2 man advantage sometime in the game. I like marines though, mines are fun fun fun

CCCorp · February 2004

Aliens pwn marine it the best when you get a server where it's 7 marines vs 5 aliens and your an alien, run in to the base right away and go 1 on 7 with the marine and pwn them all there for winning the game <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> and it's way to easy for skilled players to do that in the new beta verson so i hope the full verson of NS 3.0 is better balanced. and what aliens need is better lighting or lighting locks so marine don't crank the gamma full and can see aliens hiding in darkness (cheap night vision)

Basinx · February 2004

Aliens are way fun.
Even when I first started playing I went right onto the alien team. Though I sucked so i just built stuff all over with a gorge, but that is fun too.

Basinx · February 2004

AND **** YOUR STUPID GAMMA LOCKS WITH MY OLD MONITOR I COULD LIKE freaking SEE NOTHING AT ALL IT WAS LIKE THEY SENT A BLIND MARINE INTO THE BASE TO GET EATEN

Random Team Always Puts Me As Alien

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