In any of the maps, is using a ladder is required?
Messenjah
Join Date: 2002-10-04 Member: 1428Members
Join Date: 2002-10-04 Member: 1428Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Ever seen a rhino climb a ladder?</div>The whole 'onos climbing ladders thing' is still bothering me. Are there any maps that have important areas only accessible by ladders? Would it be really hard or deface that map to add a ramp?
Would it be totally unreasonable to have the strongest and fastest (correct me if they are not the fastest) unit in the game take the long way?
Would it be totally unreasonable to have the strongest and fastest (correct me if they are not the fastest) unit in the game take the long way?
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What I am basically asking is if the onos would be cut off from a major area of the map if it couldnt get up the ladders.
If so, how hard would it be/bad would it look if a ramp or cargo type elevator was added to allow the onos access.
Hera has ladders up to one hive, an Onos would need to go up whtm to kill marines up there, no room for a ramp.
Bast has a ladder up to the 'water hive', only other way is trhough the vents or marine spawn, straight up ladders, so no room for a ramp.
Caged has one hive room with ladders into both entrances of the hive and ladders out of another hive, no room for ramps/would look silly.
Nothing has ladders out of one hive, no room/.silly for ramps...should I go on?
Ahem.</b>
To answer your question, yes there are some (important) areas in the maps that are only accessable by ladder. For example, in ns_nothing, the "Great Viaduct" hive must be crawled out of by ladder or wall climbing.
There was orignally an elevator in this area, but r_speeds were too high for such a high-combat area. Cutting out the elevator, and replacing it with two ladders seemed to be the best option as far as detail cuts were concerned.
Here, a ladder-only area was forced by engine limits. In other maps, there's probably a few other places that are only accessable by ladder, and possibly simply by design.
It's really not a big deal though. Just like the skulk-doesn't-rotate-to-wall-surface issue, it will bug you if you sit and think about it, but when ingame it's not even slightly distracting to the average player.
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It's funny watching prone people climb ladders...
Or maybe not? I dont know =D
I hope that its possible to use a lvl5 as a lift.
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Just because I like doing wacky in-game stuff. I keep trying to persuade my TFC clan to do the haaka in the nml with me (with all of us as HW's, or maybe as pyros so we can put on a fireworks display at the same time).
On the idea of using a level5 as a lift - the Skulk and Lerk are one-man stacking machines. Gorge needs to get into a high vent? hop on top of a Skulk or Lerk, and they can lift you all the way up.
And yes, aliens can climb them, because, as coil said in the chat, an Onos wouldn't be able to get around without them...
Not bugs. Bugs are something the developers didn't intend to be in the game. These are just non-existent features that don't matter as much as, say, balancing weapon damages.
And does onos accelerate when he climbs?
its the fact that:
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So they would have to change the ladder to some other entity and...bach...I don't think even THESE geniuses can or would wanna bother trying pulling that off.
<b>WTHC?!</b>