Should Cc Blocking
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Marks Servers Reg Join Date: 2004-01-19 Member: 25462Members
Marks Servers Reg Join Date: 2004-01-19 Member: 25462Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Be banned all together?</div> Just now i played a game where my comm, placed two CC in the hall, which are high enough and wide enough to not let anything through. This was on Seige btw.
Also as i gather at the start, the commander placed 2 CCs on the aliens home RTS, not allowing them to gain vital resources. Then he said that, "he had no other choice".
I think that we should ban CC blocking on all servers, oh and plus he said we could never ban him becuase he has "8" cd keys, and appartly we cant ip block him cause it changes every now and then...
I want won, that was good, an never changing Won id that could be blocked. anyway...
If so asked i wil lgive his name.
Also as i gather at the start, the commander placed 2 CCs on the aliens home RTS, not allowing them to gain vital resources. Then he said that, "he had no other choice".
I think that we should ban CC blocking on all servers, oh and plus he said we could never ban him becuase he has "8" cd keys, and appartly we cant ip block him cause it changes every now and then...
I want won, that was good, an never changing Won id that could be blocked. anyway...
If so asked i wil lgive his name.
Comments
As far as stoping this kind of thing in pubs thats up to private server admins as always. If all else fails play somewhere else.
"Only you can prevent stupid comms."
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no offence, but a smart onos can get by that easely, just crouch jump 2 time to get though faster...
maybe you are just playing on a nub server
and the new thing they put in stops that, they did a very good job with it to.
And we didnt play against any noob clan either but i will not mention any names.
That makes us nubceaks ?
How about making a build radius that we already have but make it so that the cc has a special one that makes you unable to place another cc nearby.
The fact that he did this with no disgression and said that he had no other choice? my god
it was 3 v 2
Aliens usally win on Seige with small numbers...
Just doesnt seem right...
I wanted to be an admi right there and then, Just kick and that would be it.
I think that if a comm wants to spam ccs that let him, just have a limit of like 4, there is no need for any more than that in a game :/
And, since your problem was on a siege map, it has alot less relevance than normal, seeing as they arent tested or balanced or perfected at all. On a normal map there would most likely be more than one entrence to a place like that...
What needed is for buildings to have say 20% HP until they are fully built, making them a lot easier to take down if they are just spammed to block off areas...
Also a no build zone around all Res Points is needed to stop RT blockage...
I and others can pull stuff off in NS as alien and marine if i have enough resources and time, but i dont. why? <b><span style='color:red'>BECAUSE IT DESTROYS THE GAMEPLAY, THAT'S WHY!!!</span></b>
It's just as bad as a person blocking a vent with himself with other people trying to pass him.
As well, using CCs in this manner <b>is</b> building a constructable wall. Why dont the marines just have a block of metal with 10000 HP that only costs 30 or so res? Oh wait...
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[I agree on the limit of CC's to <b>2</b> with the second one recycleable and to not have them be buildable within the IP's build radius. Problems solved.]
Sounds like you got served
on seige the aliens have the favour?
Wow and i thought that seige room was there for rines to kick ****....
Btw
I wasnt whining over losing, cause we won... i was "whining" becuase of the idiot who was comming.
1) Marines wouldn't CC spam if they had a dedicated 'wall' item.
2) If a 'wall' item was in the game, there wouldn't be any more complaints about a wall being built.
3) The CC with it's large size and high HP is, effectively, a wall.
Seriously, the problem here is basically one of 'Hey! You shouldn't be using that that way! We don't know how to beat it! It's not fair!'
...In other news, pistols aren't allowed to be used until all main weapon ammo is gone, as they're supposed to be a backup weapon.
I mean, come on! They have the ability to be dropped nigh-on-anywhere and high HP. Of *course* they'll get used as walls. It's not like they, in and of themself, do much more else on their own anyway (Yes, they enable the ever-so-important command mode. Once one is occupied, the rest are largely just paperweights.) It's not like, with chambers that can be dropped anywhere, cloaked structures and units, and those damned webs, aliens are unable to block areas themselves, you know.
(This is where X people shout 'Yes, but webs and chambers don't have 10000 HP', and then Y people scream 'yes, but the teams aren't meant to be the same' and the whole things descends into circular argument after circular argument.)
Don't get me wrong, there should be some limits... as said before, res points should (if not already) be locked so only res nodes/chambers can be built on them. Apart from that, it should be fairly fair game, IMO.
And after all, isn't this whole argument just I Everyone's O?
And hi draco ;O
If a CC:
1) Is in a vent.
2) Is at the top of a ladder.
3) Is placed near OCs.
4) Is placed during combat around aliens.
Commander will be permbanned. Pretty simple.
Its called using your res wisely. Anyone who thinks otherwise is infact, an idiot.
And i used a comchair so marines could take cover over the acid rocket fades, and stuff. Its actually good for cover when trying to defend or trying to build res or w/e.
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I have to agree with this guy it's a tactical move and costs res FFS you idiots! none complains if a gorg builds OCs in a vent to block it or at the top of a ladder or drops them in marine spawn when aliens are attacking to distract the sentries.
This is just a commander taking an active role. If i can spawn a cc in a vent that will hamper the aliens from getting from A > B then I will. Don't like it chew it down ffs it's not indestructable
Second, CC blocking is quite different from aliens blocking an area, because the comm can place CC's in areas that marines can't get to, while aliens have to have a vulnerable gorge to place their "wall". Also, it takes 80 skulk bites (without focus) to kill an unbuilt CC. Since they can be recycled now, that means a big waste of time, and marines won't even lose res for it.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If i can spawn a cc in a vent that will hamper the aliens from getting from A > B then I will.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->If a gorge could spawn oc's in random vents across the map, then it would probably happen too. Then people would complain about it.
Third, the idea of making it so that two CC's can't be built right next to each other sounds nice, but what happens if your main CC is being killed, and you know your marines are going to get back to base about 10 seconds after the chair you are in goes down, so you want to place another one in your base? You can't just remove the requirement for marine start, either, because then marines are screwed in that case if they relocate (which could be a good thing, maybe, in which case that is a solution).
To sum it up, I think CC blocking is a problem, but I can't think of a good solution. I suppose it could be made so that CC's can't be placed in vent areas that are only wide enough for one person (areas that are too small for a base anyway), but that would be a lot of work, and probably wouldn't do much toward solving the actual problem.
Obviously your opinion must be right and anyone who disagrees must be an idiot.
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Well in a way vent blocking and rt blocking is bad for both sides cause a jetpacker can't use a vent into a hive area and take it out etc.Skulks,lerks,gorges can't go through.
The blocking rt's is bad for both sides-denies both sides res,but a dang onos or a group of gorges,oni can take a CC or two out.
Also in a way again I see nothing wrong with vent blocking,hallway blocking waiting for res to go up and buildup yer base or a attack staging ground.Not exploiting or cheating but I think I would want to do anything for my team to win.
And last but not least if you can always remember the loving word of "recycle" <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Being nice here but the build radius and number of structures that can be placed in a certain area blows in my opinion just read the last part of the third paragraph lol.
Personally I would want to build a WELL fortified base and keep the aliens out as much as possible till the juice was needed to take the aliens out.For the alien side just concentrate your efforts in a group and take care of business,ain't that hard.
Obviously your opinion must be right and anyone who disagrees must be an idiot.
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That seems to be the crux of his statement, yes. And?