Here's another one

iFireiFire Join Date: 2002-07-31 Member: 1038Members
This mind problem is from a book called Callahan's Secret by Spider Robinson


       "I've put this question to about thirty scientis in ten different disciplines," I said,"and to educators, and science fiction writers and editors I met at conventions and the funny thing is they all reacted teh same way. I'd lay out the question , and they'd all start to answer all away .. then they'd all catch themselves, fall silent, and get a far look ... and a minute or so later, they'd change the subject.


Imagine the experiment was taking place in space, in mircrogravity environment. Let's say that somewhere in orbit, there's a perfectly spherical object whose inner surface is mirrored: a spherical mirror,all right? Naturally it's dark in there. Floating with his eyes at dead center is an astronaut-never mind how he got there," I said. He's scared of the dark, so he takes a flashlight out of his pocket and turns it on.

<b>What does he see while looking at the mirror?"</b> edited

Everyone in the room started to answer at once
"Well, he-"
"The back of-"
"Nothing but pure white-"
-and then they all caught themselves. And fell silent. And got a far look

Comments

  • saint0zsaint0z Join Date: 2002-10-16 Member: 1505Members, Constellation
    The entire sphere just gets incredibly bright with no end as the light from the flashlight gets reflected over and over again all over the inside of the sphere.  All he sees is the white light from the flashlight that is incredibly blinding
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Not sure how light reflects off curved surfaces, but I'm pretty sure that it would fill the whole sphere. No fun for Mr. Naught, thats for sure.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    assuming his suit is colored white, then it will take some time after he deactivates the flashlight, but eventually (actually rather quickly) it will become whatever the suit's color is (assuming it is just one color) in a non-ideal situation it would return to black.

    But for what he sees immediately, possibly everything contained in the sphere at once (try raytracing from his eyes) and getting brighter until the the level of light being produced by the flashlight equals the level being absorbed by the suit, I imagine he'll get quite hot in there.
  • MerkabaMerkaba Digital Harmony Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 22Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    Depends - how much does the astronaught's presence disrupt the light beams reflecting all over the place?
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    attempting to simplify what I said, try to unrap your entire body and let it fill a circle.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gwahir+Oct. 20 2002,20:52--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Gwahir @ Oct. 20 2002,20:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->attempting to simplify what I said, try to unrap your entire body and let it fill a circle.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'll pass  <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    I meant mentally... <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1333Members
    He wouldn't see too much more than anyone does with a normal flashlight. No matter how good a reflector the surface is, some of the light's energy would be absorbed by the mirrored surface each time it hit. That is, assuming the sphere was small enough. If we're talking a large sphere then the light will have diffused so much by the time it gets to the edge of the sphere that there won't be much to reflect back. also, merkaba brought up a good point. The astronaut himself will absorb energy from the beam.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    *ahem* just out of personal pride, I noted that first.
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    If it were a perfect sphere, all the light would be reflected into the center of the sphere and out again, until enough light is absorbed by the suit or skin of the person there.  As long as his eye is not in the very center of the sphere, he will only see a flash (I am assuming he is focusing on his own body, and not the mirror...imagine how disorienting THAT would be) across his arms.  If his eye is in the very center of the sphere, however...

    Here's hoping he thought to close his eyes.

    -Ryan!


    "I have often been adrift, but I have always stayed afloat."
    -- David Barry
  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Hellfire3k+Oct. 20 2002,22:52--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Hellfire3k @ Oct. 20 2002,22:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Let's say that somewhere in orbit, there's a perfectly spherical object whose inner surface is mirrored: a spherical mirror,all right?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Is that a typo?  Is it supposed to say OUTER surface instead of INNER surface?

    If the mirror was on the inside he'd probly see a gray ball or whatever the backside of the mirror looks like.
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    There is no answer.
  • FreemantleFreemantle Join Date: 2002-06-16 Member: 783Members
    or spoon for that matter.
  • The_ScapegoatThe_Scapegoat Join Date: 2002-10-06 Member: 1454Members
    Im sure there is an answer, its probably like one of those tree falling in the <span style='color:Red'>woods does it still make a sound</span> kinda thing, or something! Duh i just had me brain explode by that question.

    Anyways if this guy is so smart why doesnt he tell us da awnser!

    He sees a mirriored sphere with light and his body all over da place.



    <!--EDIT|rob6264|Oct. 22 2002,11:24-->
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Spooge+Oct. 21 2002,12:23--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Spooge @ Oct. 21 2002,12:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Hellfire3k+Oct. 20 2002,22:52--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Hellfire3k @ Oct. 20 2002,22:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Let's say that somewhere in orbit, there's a perfectly spherical object whose inner surface is mirrored: a spherical mirror,all right?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Is that a typo?  Is it supposed to say OUTER surface instead of INNER surface?

    If the mirror was on the inside he'd probly see a gray ball or whatever the backside of the mirror looks like.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, the mirror is on the inner surface, and the person is floating on the inside of the floating mirror ball.  Imagine what that would look like in normal light for a bit, first.

    Then imagine it's completely dark.

    Then imagining turning a light on within this ball.

    -Ryan!


    "When I examine myself and my methods of thought, I come close to the conclusion that the gift of fantasy has meant more to me than my talent for absorbing positive knowledge."
    -- Albert Einstein
  • C0nan_The_LibrarianC0nan_The_Librarian Join Date: 2002-07-31 Member: 1039Members
    It would light up the whole ball. Reflect from where he origionally pointed it and bounce everywhere.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    I would think he/she would see him/herself smeared all over the inner surface of the sphere.

    I conceptualised a light-based capacitor that could hold an almost infinite amount of energy. It was a hollow spherical hole constructed in the middle of a cube of material that has a high refractive index, like some crystals, with a vacuum inside. You would construct this sphere and shine in a light at the exact angle so that the effect of total internal reflection would endlessly mirror the light around inside the sphere, without loss of intensity. The other limit of this device is brought about by general relativity. As more and more energy gets stored in the sphere, the heavier it would get, as dictated by E=MC^2. You could keep pumping light into it until the crystal implodes under the gravitational attraction of the pseudo-weight inside it. The beauty of it is that it can be as small as you like and can still hold a <b>lot</b> of energy. The only problem is getting the energy out. This could be done by smashing the crystal and collecting the light as it raced away or by having a cylindrical core that is cut down through the crystal into the hollow hole with the end perfectly ground to match the inner surface. When this "plug" is removed, all the light would escape in all directions. We would need to develop radiation to electrical energy conversion a long way past solar panels to effectively collect the energy.

    This would make one hella effective bomb, incinerating anything in a radius in any direction with an intense blast of high energy photons, ouchie.

    --Scythe—

    P.S. If anyone goes off and makes squillions off this idea, gimmie some :-D



    <!--EDIT|Scythe|Oct. 22 2002,16:32-->
  • Shuvit_ViperShuvit_Viper Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 62Members
    Too much spare time... way too much spare time...
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