Lerks And Their Misery In Combat Mode.

HannebambelHannebambel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5416Banned
It is every time very funny to see that even in late game lerks try to kill rines via spores.

1. HA won´t get hurt anyway.

2. Rines with resupply don´t care much too only losing their armour but get health resupplies faster than a skulk can bite.


Now while you do that pathetic atempt your Onos buddies die as bullet magnets in HMG leadrain and nadespamming. At least you could do something usefuil and spit Umbra over the whole enemy base including the CC.

For those you do not know the Umbra is the yellow spray and not the green. Even after several attempts to make Lerk spit Umbra they still spit Spores.

Maybe the colours should be changed to red (spores) and blue (umbra) so people notice the difference.

And one more word. The Lerk is a Support unit and not a mega Rambo killing machine. That means, like the gorge, it is not meant for outrageous killing. So behave that way and give your Onos a helping hand.

Comments

  • Rapier7Rapier7 Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26108Members
    ...

    I sincerely hope you are joking.

    While HA is not affected, not everybody goes HA...

    And spores take out armor, which is arguably more important than the marine's health.

    With focus, dive in, bite, watch your kill message, fly out.

    Simple, no?
  • TheNovaTheNova Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26599Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-the_move+Mar 16 2004, 09:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the_move @ Mar 16 2004, 09:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It is every time very funny to see that even in late game lerks try to kill rines via spores.

    1. HA won´t get hurt anyway.

    2. Rines with resupply don´t care much too only losing their armour but get health resupplies faster than a skulk can bite.


    Now while you do that pathetic atempt your Onos buddies die as bullet magnets in HMG leadrain and nadespamming. At least you could do something usefuil and spit Umbra over the whole enemy base including the CC.

    For those you do not know the Umbra is the yellow spray and not the green. Even after several attempts to make Lerk spit Umbra they still spit Spores.

    Maybe the colours should be changed to red (spores) and blue (umbra) so people notice the difference.

    And one more word. The Lerk is a Support unit and not a mega Rambo killing machine. That means, like the gorge, it is not meant for outrageous killing. So behave that way and give your Onos a helping hand. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nope!
    lerks can be mega killing machines with focus, celerity and adrenadline. Even better with cara and rege!
    I got 40-2 once in co as lerk, killing spore weakened non HAs and sometimes even HAs!

    I do get umbra for my team of onos or fades.
  • Jared101Jared101 Join Date: 2004-02-22 Member: 26804Members
    yeah,your post is kinda backwards

    cause people seem to do better as a lerk in CO than in regular ns maps

    ive been practiving with regular NS lerk,but on co
    sporing rooms does plenty of dmg,with celerity and adren you can fly in and spore spawn twice,and fly out,you normally get atleast 1 kill

    also if you spore a group of rines,or just one,then shoot umbra at there feet,then fly in
    lerks are more than just support units,they are just support units to the fades that **** about shotties and the lerks being NUBS trying to lerk and not umbra
  • tuutti2tuutti2 Join Date: 2004-02-11 Member: 26392Members
    edited March 2004
    It really hits marines morale to respawn in the middle of lerk spores. Besides, one lerk can spore whole marine team almost to death so skulks can finish them off.

    Spores works very well against hive assaulting marine packs at early game. At least it slows them down. Non-HA marines usually dont want to run into spores so your alien team will have some time to respawn (if alien team arent dead, those marines are not going to enter your hive at all).
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Spores tear down armor like the plague like many pointed out. This lowers their survival rate against Focus, because anything short of a Gorge can kill him in 1 hit if he has 25 armor or less.

    And although it doesn't harm HA, a whole bunch of clouds of spores can clog vision so badly, you can't see something until it's too late.
  • HannebambelHannebambel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5416Banned
    edited March 2004
    Still not everyone uses focus, since it slows down.

    And the Fades and Onos need Umbra more desperatly than the lousy spores.
    And this is no joke. It is still a team game.
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-the_move+Mar 17 2004, 07:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the_move @ Mar 17 2004, 07:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Still not everyone uses focus, since it slows down.

    And the Fades and Onos need Umbra more desperatly than the lousy spores.
    And this is no joke. It is still a team game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Spores are not lousy in terms of long-term damage done to marines, and blockage of vision.

    And one more thing, not all NS players read this forum and we can't directly control players and what they do. We are not responsible for these actions, and neither will this forum help those who don't read this forum.

    On the topic of lerks being a support unit....well, that would be useless. That's why bite was given back. I choose to be a hybrid of the 2, and I have to say, lerks are rambo punishers. If lerks were the same as before in 2.0 with the new flight, they would be torn down due to the fact they would lack any powerful attack.

    And lastly....alien play is more individual-based. Not to mention CO is not really teamplay oriented anyway....and that is what kills your 'its a team game' argument. In CO, nobody cares as you STILL respawn as an Onos or Fade.
  • HannebambelHannebambel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5416Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-RaVe+Mar 17 2004, 01:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Mar 17 2004, 01:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

    And lastly....alien play is more individual-based. Not to mention CO is not really teamplay oriented anyway....and that is what kills your 'its a team game' argument. In CO, nobody cares as you STILL respawn as an Onos or Fade. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, but still you can only win as a team.
  • XCanXCan Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5904Members, Constellation
    Wether you're losing or winning in CO you probably will still have fun and don't care much, however if you're losing in NS especially as aliens, the game is incredibly boring and could be frustating too which tells me at least why there are less TP in CO. Besides there are more CSkids in CO mode than NS mode which many of you probably have noticed. I at least consider the NS players much more mature and teamplay oriented due to experience.

    "omgz0r, i headshotz0r himz0r!"
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-the_move+Mar 17 2004, 03:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the_move @ Mar 17 2004, 03:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, but still you can only win as a team. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Uhhh no.

    Guess what I did a few games back. I managed to beat the game by myself because no-one would listen to hive responses on my team, and marines kept on rushing me.
    None of my team barely got near the CC and scratched it, and when I went lerk, and went spore/focus+bite/umbra, then it tore them away. And these are not some average pubbies we're talking here. We're talking above-average players here that I have met before in the days of 1.04, and have scrimmed regularly.

    And still, my argument stands. Alien gameplay is still more individual based.
  • Jared101Jared101 Join Date: 2004-02-22 Member: 26804Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-the_move+Mar 17 2004, 07:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the_move @ Mar 17 2004, 07:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    And this is no joke. It is still a team game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol its co,people do what they want
  • BOBDololBOBDolol Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21431Members
    sigh. resupply is really not as useful as most players who get them seem to think, also focus is a pretty essential upgrade for aliens. It slows down your attack rate, but i don't really care about that when I kill marines with 0 armor in one bite.
  • HannebambelHannebambel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5416Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-BOBDOLOL+Mar 18 2004, 12:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BOBDOLOL @ Mar 18 2004, 12:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> sigh. resupply is really not as useful as most players who get them seem to think, also focus is a pretty essential upgrade for aliens. It slows down your attack rate, but i don't really care about that when I kill marines with 0 armor in one bite. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    YOu know I think silence is an essential upgrade, since marines pick scan over tracker most of the time.

    But no one listens to me either.

    Wether or not ONos are bullet magnets, if you dont umbra them, then lose.

    I think I am going marines then.
  • Janus_KrugJanus_Krug Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14906Members
    9 times out of 10, I go Combat Lerk, here's my build:

    Level 2: Silence
    Level 3: Celerity
    Level 4: Adrenaline
    Level 5: Gorge
    Level 6: Lerk
    Level 7: Regen
    Level 8: Ability 3
    Level 9: Carapace
    Level 10: Ability 4

    I go full support lerk, sporing when my buddies aren't nearby, umbra/primal when they are, and I'm quite good at dogfighting those damn jp/shotty ****. It works when I'm the only lerk, as a team of lerks will have trouble getting anywhere. But a pair of oni and a fade getting primaled while attacking the chair makes for a quick come from behind victory.
  • Norml_E_HighNorml_E_High Join Date: 2003-03-30 Member: 15055Members
    Sporing marines in combat, resupply or not is useful no matter what. You are killing their armor, and that is useful enough. I get annoyed when people go lerk soley for getting kills. If you are going to go lerk, at least get the 3rd and 4th abilities. There are plenty of upgrades a lerk won't need that you can get those abilities in their place.
  • oOgAoOgA Join Date: 2004-01-29 Member: 25715Members
    sporing+umbra is the best combo imo.
    keepin marines out of bay from allies and protecting allies with umbra
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    lerks have insane speed.
    Think of it as "superfast near impossible to track thing which removes your hp without notice" = lerk
  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    Once I get my adren, celerity, focus, and carapace, I'll get around 10-50 kills per life. Spore to kill the armor, then a single swift fly in focus bite.
  • pGc-ProdigypGc-Prodigy Join Date: 2003-12-05 Member: 23970Members
    I always go combat lerk in combat mode.

    Level 2: focus
    Level 3: celerity
    Level 4: silence
    Level 5: Nothing
    Level 6: Nothing
    Level 7: Adrenaline/Gorge/Lerk
    Level 8: Umbra
    Level 9: Carapace
    Level 10: Regeneration

    Sometimes I swap Umbra for Scent of Fear, depending upon the map and whether the marines go with HA or not (no HA = easy spore/focus kills). I rarely get cloaking, and almost never get redemption (unless it's an accident).
  • Jared101Jared101 Join Date: 2004-02-22 Member: 26804Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Norml E. High+Mar 18 2004, 08:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Norml E. High @ Mar 18 2004, 08:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I get annoyed when people go lerk soley for getting kills. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    dude its co,dont be a crybaby

    i go 1hive lerk on ns maps,and people call me a noob,untill they notice i have atleast 16 kills and still havent died
  • Jared101Jared101 Join Date: 2004-02-22 Member: 26804Members
    noone ever get primal?

    it works wonders for taking out the dumb HA who just stands there,but you can probobly kill him without it
    silence=must
  • MamboKingMamboKing Join Date: 2004-03-06 Member: 27169Members
    I find the lerk to be useful for immediately countering a marine push in co. After I wait for us to spawn up a little bit I fly to the rine base and pop off 2 people right off the bat. I find a lot of times I'm the only one in the marine spawn because of the popularity of nade spam. (umbra dosen't help here so the obvious solution is to kill them before they shoot nades)
  • RushakraRushakra Join Date: 2004-03-25 Member: 27523Members
    Silence Lerk~

    <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Owned!
Sign In or Register to comment.