Half-Life 2: Episode Two - Black & Orange boxes delayed

tigersmithtigersmith Join Date: 2004-11-11 Member: 32749Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter
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<div class="IPBDescription">knew it would happen again</div>Damn it, I wanna play Episode Two soo bad. Same with Portal and TF2. But again valve will make it crazy good when it comes out this winter.

<a href="http://www.playfuls.com/news_9328_Half_Life_2_The_Black_Orange_Boxes_Episode_Two_Delayed.html" target="_blank">http://www.playfuls.com/news_9328_Half_Lif...wo_Delayed.html</a>
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  • SwiftSwift Lost Keys Join Date: 2005-02-19 Member: 41683Members, Constellation
    Who didn't see that coming?
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  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    <!--quoteo(post=1604804:date=Feb 8 2007, 09:26 AM:name=Swift)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swift @ Feb 8 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]1604804[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Who didn't see that coming? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's fine with me. Just means I have time to build a new system first since I generally cba to boot to XP on my current system just to play games.
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  • Sub_zer0Sub_zer0 Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28569Members
    To be fair they are making 3 games
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  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    True but they have been working on those games for quite a while <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Valve takes their time, but it certainly pays off.
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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    was episode 1 worth it? how much playtime was it?
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  • chubbystevechubbysteve Join Date: 2002-10-14 Member: 1496Members, Constellation
    Not enough. for the price. But it was good, challenging play and the second trip with comments added value for me. Still, it felt hella short when I finished it for the first time. Like every section could have another map added on.
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  • RoverRover blargh Join Date: 2003-09-23 Member: 21139Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1604838:date=Feb 8 2007, 06:10 PM:name=chubbysteve)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chubbysteve @ Feb 8 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]1604838[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Not enough. for the price. But it was good, challenging play and the second trip with comments added value for me. Still, it felt hella short when I finished it for the first time. Like every section could have another map added on.
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    Agreed. Although one thing I hated was how they extended the gameplay in a ridiculous way. Anybody remember the part where you discover some new trap every time after entering a vent, while alyx waits outside? Dear god, that was ######. Trial & error.

    As for episode 2, I'll get it, but I'm not going OMG NOES DELAYED about it.
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    If i t does make a winter release, I will just get it in an EP1/2/TF2 Xmas discount pack or something. I only really want TF2, the rest can go jump off a bridge.
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  • MalevolentMalevolent Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18842Members
    For how long Episode One was, it took too long to come out, IMO. So while Episode Two is coming with Portal and TF2, it is still taking a really long time. This delay makes it one year late, since I am pretty sure it was supposed to come out for Holiday 2006.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    edited February 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1604833:date=Feb 8 2007, 08:32 AM:name=DiscoZombie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DiscoZombie @ Feb 8 2007, 08:32 AM) [snapback]1604833[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    was episode 1 worth it? how much playtime was it?
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    <a href="http://www.steampowered.com/status/ep1/" target="_blank">Average playtime was between 3.5 and 4.5 hours</a>. The actual "average" was a bit above 5 but that's including the weird people. Lots of us played it at least twice, once for real and once for the commentary. I thought it was totally worth the cash; every bit as good as HL2 was, and most of the parts I liked even more than average.
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1604916:date=Feb 8 2007, 02:28 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Feb 8 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]1604916[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    <a href="http://www.steampowered.com/status/ep1/" target="_blank">Average playtime was between 3.5 and 4.5 hours</a>. Lots of us played it at least twice, once for real and once for the commentary. I thought it was totally worth the cash; every bit as good as HL2 was, and most of the parts I liked even more than average.
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    I agree. $17.50 well spent. Not to mention, currently the best graphics on the PC.
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  • RoverRover blargh Join Date: 2003-09-23 Member: 21139Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1604919:date=Feb 8 2007, 11:34 PM:name=Quaunaut)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Quaunaut @ Feb 8 2007, 11:34 PM) [snapback]1604919[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I agree. $17.50 well spent. Not to mention, currently the best graphics on the PC.
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    *cough*rainbowsixvegas*cough*
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  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited February 2007
    Total bummer. Portals/TF2 were about the only things I was truly looking forward to for Q1/Q2 2007. Now it's bumped back to winter? Jesus, by winter of 2007 we'll have flying cars and <!--coloro:red--><span style="color:red"><!--/coloro-->fudge<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->.
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  • Sub_zer0Sub_zer0 Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28569Members
    I was looking forward to portal
    ep2 does have more open gameplay so i should imagine it is harder to make more drivables and bigger maps kidna pushing the engine a lil too.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1604922:date=Feb 8 2007, 02:39 PM:name=Rover)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rover @ Feb 8 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]1604922[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    *cough*rainbowsixvegas*cough*
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    Vegas is pretty, but the art direction and general atmosphere don't get anywhere close to HL2. The dystopian world, the amazing facial animation, the HDR lighting and the austere design of the Citadel contrasted with the barren remains of City 17... it's one of the prettiest games available.
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  • RoverRover blargh Join Date: 2003-09-23 Member: 21139Members
    edited February 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1604935:date=Feb 9 2007, 12:00 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Feb 9 2007, 12:00 AM) [snapback]1604935[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Vegas is pretty, but the art direction and general atmosphere don't get anywhere close to HL2. The dystopian world, the amazing facial animation, the HDR lighting and the austere design of the Citadel contrasted with the barren remains of City 17... it's one of the prettiest games available.
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    Atmosphere != graphics.

    It's graphically better. Unreal3 engine ftw.


    edit: intermezzo on the facial animation: I can't wait for Heavy Rain.
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1604962:date=Feb 8 2007, 04:44 PM:name=Rover)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rover @ Feb 8 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]1604962[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Atmosphere != graphics.

    It's graphically better. Unreal3 engine ftw.
    edit: intermezzo on the facial animation: I can't wait for Heavy Rain.
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    Vegas' does beat it.

    But the Episode 2 stuff may take Vegas' version of it back over. <3
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  • Sub_zer0Sub_zer0 Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28569Members
    I wasn't masivly impressed with some of teh level design in half life 2 I found some of it very corridor based. I'm hoping this will change and become more open in ep2
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  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1604833:date=Feb 8 2007, 11:32 AM:name=DiscoZombie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DiscoZombie @ Feb 8 2007, 11:32 AM) [snapback]1604833[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    was episode 1 worth it? how much playtime was it?
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    Not really. I finished it in 4 hours and wondered what the hell I had wasted $40ish NZ on. A babysit the bot simulator?

    BAH.

    Episode 2 should be well worth it though. It's apparently much longer than Ep1, has TF2 and Portal looks really snazzy (I'm most interested in portal TBH).

    But valve couldn't stick to a schedule if it killed them.
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  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1604982:date=Feb 8 2007, 06:14 PM:name=Aegeri)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Aegeri @ Feb 8 2007, 06:14 PM) [snapback]1604982[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    But valve couldn't stick to a schedule if it killed them.
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    I fail to see how my death would speed things along. (Had to say it)
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  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Oh thats right, we've got a Valve whipping boy on the forums.

    *whips T_h_e_m for ep2 being delayed*
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  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1604992:date=Feb 8 2007, 07:00 PM:name=Mouse)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mouse @ Feb 8 2007, 07:00 PM) [snapback]1604992[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Oh thats right, we've got a Valve whipping boy on the forums.

    *whips T_h_e_m for ep2 being delayed*
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    That and my nick is (supposed to be) Them. Get it? "even if it killed <b>them</b>."

    Oh man, if only I was as funny as I am in my head. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1604994:date=Feb 8 2007, 07:03 PM:name=T_h_e_m)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(T_h_e_m @ Feb 8 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]1604994[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    That and my nick is (supposed to be) Them. Get it? "even if it killed <b>them</b>."

    Oh man, if only I was as funny as I am in my head. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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    See, that's just about the only positive aspect I've ever imagined when it comes to our eventual slavery via a giant machine that we're all hooked up to. When we can all read each others' mind, all my spectacular brilliance that I somehow just can't get across in everday life will be apparent, and all will bow before me.

    If they weren't locked in to digi-slave chairs of course.
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  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    We're not paying you to be funny, we're paying you to look beautiful. So hurry up already!
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    THAT'S a lost cause. ABORT MISSION!
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  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    edited February 2007
    Damn, I saw a trailer for TF2 (I wasn't interested in it before.). Now I want it badly.

    I won't be playing Portals after I eat, that's for sure.


    <strike>Anyone know what the difference between the two boxes is?</strike>

    Edit: I need to learn how to click links and take data.
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  • KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
    i don't see the big deal about HL2/source/ep1 whatever's graphics. in technology terms it has fallen behind, its only the art direction that keeps it pretty, and even then i don't find it all that impressive. they've just borrowed/stolen elements from many popular sci-fi stories, movies etc and changed them enough to be "original" then made some boxy maps and slapped on a physics engine. I feel sorry for people that can't see through the reality of HL2's production.

    not to say its all crap, but ep1 is overpriced, and i won't be buying it. Ep2 and Portal i'm interested in, and i might have a play with TF2, provided the combat classes are actually combat classes and the support classes are support classes (eg medics not being the primary assault class)
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I don't see how $20 for 4 to 6 hours of damn awesome gameplay is a bad price at all. Max Payne 2 was barely 9 hours long, and was $50. Most games are, these days. Then again, the retail market effs up its price bad.
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  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    edited February 2007
    I don't get all these people complaining about Half-life 2 just because it's popular. I haven't seen an original game since psychonauts, and even that was just mario and day of the tentacle on LSD. If you don't enjoy it, don't pay money for it -- who cares about graphics on a game you already hate? I know I didn't pay money for doom just because it had a great lighting system.

    Edit: That is to say, I didn't spend money on Doom full stop. I didn't enjoy the game and wouldn't have enjoyed it more by paying money to broadcast the fact that I'm the proud owner of a flashlight and a pair of hands that can open doors like nobody's business.
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