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DiscoZombie
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<div class="IPBDescription">study shows</div><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/fun.games/02/19/surgery.games.reut/index.html" target="_blank">Study: Surgeons who play video games more skilled </a>
I love how even studies that show that video games are good for you, have to turn around at the end of the article and say they're still bad for you -_-
I love how even studies that show that video games are good for you, have to turn around at the end of the article and say they're still bad for you -_-
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Well there is a difference between a surgeon spending some of his free time playing games and a kid still in school wasting all his free time playing games... that's the only thing they were really highlighting.
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Truth.
Video games <i>aren't good for you</i>. In moderation they don't really have many negative side effects but any-time when you are sitting still for hours at a time is bad for you.
if 33% better fine motor skills doesn't suggest video games are good for you, I don't know what does. If you spend all your free time READING, you'll be just as unlikely to get into med school (provided you're not reading medical journals), but you never hear about the danger of books. Doesn't it go without saying that too much of anything is a bad thing? but you only see the media drilling that point into the ground when it comes to video games.
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If video games where "Good" for you then they would decrease body fat, even out blood pressure, increase social skills, increase life expectancy. Im pretty sure they don't do any of those.
People who spend all their time reading will most likely have higher intelligence, faster reading ability, more active imagination, and more general knowledge.
The media doesn't preach the "dangers" of reading because people don't get addicted to reading books (from what I know atleast).
Anyway, I guess in closing Im just saying that anything video-games really do aren't remarkable and the only reason they get so much media attention for their negative affects is they are just the new scape-goat. It will change in a few years.
if 33% better fine motor skills doesn't suggest video games are good for you, I don't know what does. If you spend all your free time READING, you'll be just as unlikely to get into med school (provided you're not reading medical journals), but you never hear about the danger of books. Doesn't it go without saying that too much of anything is a bad thing? but you only see the media drilling that point into the ground when it comes to video games.
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That's because you don't find many schoolkids rushing to their bedroom as soon as they get back from school to settle down for a nice 5 hour session of reading "Of Mice And Men".
I agree that video games are unfairly treated compared to other forms of media, but I don't think this article is a particularly good example of it. The only anti-game message this article puts accross is that if you spend all your free time playing games, you're not gonna do well in school. And the only reason it mentions that is because the article is about a study on games.
If the study were on TV or something, they'd probably include the same message. They have to include stuff like that so people don't think "If I buy my son lego Star Wars 2 he can grow up to be a brain surgeon", and then blame the researchers for misleading results when it doesn't happen.
(My connection is screwy today so if this reply appears more than once, you know why. Sorry mods.)
I'll ask him if he's a gamer next time he comes through.
You've got that the wrong way around, champ. By playing video games with certain controllers you're developing your small motor skills and muscles in that area, which also happens to correspond to the muscles and motor skills required for surgery [to a certain extent]. This has nothing to do with what would make a good surgeon, however. It is simply a test of exercising and refining motor skills and muscles in the hands.
Edit: But I wash my hands of the rest of the discussion. My GOD you just.. some days you just wake up and wonder how people got this dumb.
This has nothing to do with what would make a good surgeon, however. It is simply a test of exercising and refining motor skills and muscles in the hands.
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Which is what surgeons do day in day out? Using their muscles and motor skills to do fine surgeory which with the accidental movement of 1mm could possibly kills someone?
There's more to being a surgeon than having masturbated nonstop for the last ten years of your life. If you can't see that then I don't know what to say to you. Maybe... would you like me to sew your mittens to your jacket?
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Angry non-topical reply from being proven wrong. It is true emperor_awesome is a troll!
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You lied.
Twice.
You lied.
Twice.
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The rest of the discussion being video game addiction....
Stop calling me a troll just because you're wrong and trying to mask your own idiocy.
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Whatever dude. Masturbation has nothing to do with gaming and surgery =\
Being strong doesn't make you a good baseball player.
Having small muscle control doesn't make you a good surgeon.
They <i>help,</i> but in no way do they make you that thing. Plenty of tall people suck at basketball and plenty of video gamers won't make good surgeons.
Being tall doesn't automatically make you a good basketball player.
Being strong doesn't make you a good baseball player.
Having small muscle control doesn't make you a good surgeon.
They <i>help,</i> but in no way do they make you that thing. Plenty of tall people suck at basketball and plenty of video gamers won't make good surgeons.
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Ahhh, but will being a good surgeon make you good at video games? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
I'd argue to say that if hes a good gamer, and he went through all the motions of being a surgeon, that person A would be a better surgeon than person B who went through only the classes. As much as I'd like to say "they no way guarentee help," its still practice in fine motor skills which person B didn't get. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> Its kind of like saying that a swimmer wouldn't make a good runner - the swimmer's stamina gained from swimming certainly will help him running, even though it doesnt directly relate to running itself.
If video games where "Good" for you then they would decrease body fat, even out blood pressure, increase social skills, increase life expectancy. Im pretty sure they don't do any of those.
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just a note, my baby brother lives in the states in a pretty rough area in jersey.. he was "gangbanging" at like 15.. was involved with a shooting @ 16, then turned his life around with online games.. lol, he became a huge cs fan. and just stopped going out with the "homies" and now he is in college and working part time as an auto mechanic. after finding a passion for cars, in.... midnight club 2 xD, so yeah, just an example but, hell, that helped his social life, it certainly helped his life expectancy, granted abouot the other two, he is a bit chunkier now, and no idea on his BP, but, i would take those two, over the latter 1.
just a note, my baby brother lives in the states in a pretty rough area in jersey.. he was "gangbanging" at like 15.. was involved with a shooting @ 16, then turned his life around with online games.. lol, he became a huge cs fan. and just stopped going out with the "homies" and now he is in college and working part time as an auto mechanic. after finding a passion for cars, in.... midnight club 2 xD, so yeah, just an example but, hell, that helped his social life, it certainly helped his life expectancy, granted abouot the other two, he is a bit chunkier now, and no idea on his BP, but, i would take those two, over the latter 1.
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So where does that tie in with Video gaming correlating to surgery? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
Are you an idiot?
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Are you?
PS. My question to you is rhetorical.