So, the RIAA is pretty effin' evil...
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<div class="IPBDescription">...and probably doing a lot of illegal things.</div>We know this I'm sure, but now, thanks to a <a href="http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/02/riaa_launches_p.html" target="_blank">Wired article</a>(yes, I saw it on digg), I found out about <a href="http://p2plawsuits.com/P2P_00_Home.aspx" target="_blank">this</a>.
How can this even be legal? This is obviously just another revenue source for them. Jesus, I thought EA was bad a few years back with that _spouse garbage, but they're specifically allowing you to snitch on people, and then they can settle it here, out of court- USING A CREDIT CARD OVER THE INTERNET.
This is stupifyingly stupid. And most likely illegal.
How can this even be legal? This is obviously just another revenue source for them. Jesus, I thought EA was bad a few years back with that _spouse garbage, but they're specifically allowing you to snitch on people, and then they can settle it here, out of court- USING A CREDIT CARD OVER THE INTERNET.
This is stupifyingly stupid. And most likely illegal.
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They make it sound like they've lost an arm and a leg...
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Heh. Reminds me of that South Park episode.
"Because of piracy, Britney Spears has had to buy a smaller jet. This one doesn't even have a remote control for it's surround sound entertainment system."
Heh. Reminds me of that South Park episode.
"Because of piracy, Britney Spears has had to buy a smaller jet. This one doesn't even have a remote control for it's surround sound entertainment system."
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Think of the celebrities! Won't someone think of the celebrities?!
Not to say that song and movie sharing isn't illigal, but the RIAA is my first assosiation whenever anyone would mention "Police state" or "Dirty Rooster (-assosiated) smoker"
However I will never pirate a video game since I have respect for the people who make them.
So no, I don't want to pay for music et al, I just want to pay for the music to show thanks. When the prices are hiked to such ridiculous levels, with the original artists not getting diddly squat, I'm not going to pay for music thank you.
Clearly anyone who wishes to sell music instead of give it away for free should get the death penalty. Who do they think they are? Honestly, music is for listening to, not for paying for. I have a God-given right to listen to whatever music I want to as much as I can without paying a freaking cent. It's not like those musicians have ever done anything for me.
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Oh don't give that BS line. If that was the case I'd love to buy music, I'd buy it as often as I do the indie CDs and lesser-known artists-on-major-labels.
But this doesn't have <i>jack</i> to do about helping the artist- these artists <i>damn</i> well should be rich as hell for providing me the joy they do, but when I buy music, I'm buying the music and I wanna tell them where the hell I wanna listen to it and I wanna tell them what the hell I wanna do with it like everyone in America has gotten to do since the beginning of the record industry. I don't want them to claim the price of music has to go up as production costs go down, I don't want them to give that <i>spiel</i> about how downloading music is why the industry is flailing- it has <i>nothing</i> to do with them pumping out the same records at the expense of good artist's credibility, it has <i>nothing</i> to do with the fact that the music industry took a sharp turn upwards, constantly making more and more money when Napster began getting popular, it has <i>nothing</i> to do with the fact that in the <i>very same month</i> that Napster was shut down that they experienced a 60% down surge in sales, mid Christmas season.
Don't be so ignorant to believe this corporate rhetoric that is no better than the BS lines of top tier politicians. They see this as a wonderful in, to get more money by suing and suing and suing and suing until they happen to find a millionaire's son and sue him for a lot, while suing everyone who isn't into the ground. This doesn't have to do with protecting <i>artist's rights</i>, this has to do with not admitting the mistake of DRM when they still had the chance to save their own business, and then watch the money they made quickly decline because they couldn't adapt to a changing marketplace that they indeed held control over like a monopoly so much worse than Microsoft's that the entire creative slaughter that it was was easily comparable to the major disasters of the 20th century.
If you wanna know more about what Emp and Mantrid are talking about, I even especially recommend reading <a href="http://dir.salon.com/story/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html" target="_blank">this</a> and <a href="http://www.gerryhemingway.com/piracy2.html" target="_blank">this</a>.
If you wanna know more about what Emp and Mantrid are talking about, I even especially recommend reading <a href="http://dir.salon.com/story/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html" target="_blank">this</a> and <a href="http://www.gerryhemingway.com/piracy2.html" target="_blank">this</a>.
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I love this post. I never knew Courtney had it in her... or had anything in her outside of coke and diet pills.
I love this post. I never knew Courtney had it in her... or had anything in her outside of coke and diet pills.
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And random men? Bum-dum-ksh.
Clearly anyone who wishes to sell music instead of give it away for free should get the death penalty. Who do they think they are? Honestly, music is for listening to, not for paying for. I have a God-given right to listen to whatever music I want to as much as I can without paying a freaking cent. It's not like those musicians have ever done anything for me.
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Do you realize how stupid that statement is? "Music is for listening to, not for paying for" How in the hell do you expect to listen to music if no one makes any? Because that is what would happen eventually if everyone stopped getting paid for making music.
Yes i know big labels are ripoffs and Britney Pukes is a manufactured money machine. But the fact remains, to make music you need money. I mean even a cheap acoustic guitar to write the bloody music costs money. Then you have to record it and even if you do it cheap by recording it with free recording software at home you still have to own a PC to do it and that costs money. So you see, everything costs.
Making a professionally sounding recording and publish it, even over the internet costs money and artists should make money for their efforts, it's their JOB FFS. Imagine if the place you worked in suddenly couldnt sell their product anymore and you would lose your salary, would you keep working there for nothing? Imagine it happening to every company in the profession you work in, where would you go get a job?
Dont give me any "I have a God given right...." bullcrap. You dont have a god given right to anything but breath the air you breath. Anything beyond that is optional by choice. If you want to listen to music, then listen to what is available to you legally and freely. Be it the homeless guy with the guitar on the street corner or free music by artists on Myspace or whatever. Even better, go make your own friggin music and listen to that.
You have on the other hand no right to download music for free that requires you to pay for and is protected by copyright law.
Being a musician, your attitude just pisses me off.
(I however do not support the way RIAA goes about doing things.)
Do you realize how stupid that statement is? "Music is for listening to, not for paying for" How in the hell do you expect to listen to music if no one makes any? Because that is what would happen eventually if everyone stopped getting paid for making music.
Yes i know big labels are ripoffs and Britney Pukes is a manufactured money machine. But the fact remains, to make music you need money. I mean even a cheap acoustic guitar to write the bloody music costs money. Then you have to record it and even if you do it cheap by recording it with free recording software at home you still have to own a PC to do it and that costs money. So you see, everything costs.
Making a professionally sounding recording and publish it, even over the internet costs money and artists should make money for their efforts, it's their JOB FFS. Imagine if the place you worked in suddenly couldnt sell their product anymore and you would lose your salary, would you keep working there for nothing? Imagine it happening to every company in the profession you work in, where would you go get a job?
Dont give me any "I have a God given right...." bullcrap. You dont have a god given right to anything but breath the air you breath. Anything beyond that is optional by choice. If you want to listen to music, then listen to what is available to you legally and freely. Be it the homeless guy with the guitar on the street corner or free music by artists on Myspace or whatever. Even better, go make your own friggin music and listen to that.
You have on the other hand no right to download music for free that requires you to pay for and is protected by copyright law.
Being a musician, your attitude just pisses me off.
(I however do not support the way RIAA goes about doing things.)
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Hellbilly clearly doesn't understand sarcasm over the internet.
Do you realize how stupid that statement is? "Music is for listening to, not for paying for" How in the hell do you expect to listen to music if no one makes any? Because that is what would happen eventually if everyone stopped getting paid for making music.
Yes i know big labels are ripoffs and Britney Pukes is a manufactured money machine. But the fact remains, to make music you need money. I mean even a cheap acoustic guitar to write the bloody music costs money. Then you have to record it and even if you do it cheap by recording it with free recording software at home you still have to own a PC to do it and that costs money. So you see, everything costs.
Making a professionally sounding recording and publish it, even over the internet costs money and artists should make money for their efforts, it's their JOB FFS. Imagine if the place you worked in suddenly couldnt sell their product anymore and you would lose your salary, would you keep working there for nothing? Imagine it happening to every company in the profession you work in, where would you go get a job?
Dont give me any "I have a God given right...." bullcrap. You dont have a god given right to anything but breath the air you breath. Anything beyond that is optional by choice. If you want to listen to music, then listen to what is available to you legally and freely. Be it the homeless guy with the guitar on the street corner or free music by artists on Myspace or whatever. Even better, go make your own friggin music and listen to that.
You have on the other hand no right to download music for free that requires you to pay for and is protected by copyright law.
Being a musician, your attitude just pisses me off.
(I however do not support the way RIAA goes about doing things.)
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Exactly.
When you pay for music from mainstream artists, you're not paying for the music itself but for the production costs, the advertising costs, the artist's cut, the retailer's cut, for the producer's profits, any fees involved with copyrights etc, as well as all the media companys' other costly manipulations of public attention such that people like britney spears get popular, just to be replaced a short time later by an equally vapid, talentless hack.
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If you like a mainstream artist, steal their CD and buy tickets to their show with the money you would've used otherwise.