Issue with mouse speed (or lack of)
scottusa
Join Date: 2007-03-22 Member: 60452Members
Join Date: 2007-03-22 Member: 60452Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Using Razor Diamondback Gaming Mouse and speeds are not what they should be</div>Ok.. I am sorry if this seems odd, but I have searched the forums here and saw no solutions to the issue I am having.
I have seen where people wanted to improve mouse speed, or decrease it... But in this case, I am in a odd pickle when it comes to getting my mosue at full speed.
I have played NS with the prior version before the 3.2 was released and had no problems with my mouse at full speed. I was able to do a 180 with moving my mouse by moving it less then half an inch. Even with Tourettes Syndrome, the increased and max speed proved to be most useful in reducing response time when turning around and etc.
When the version 3.2 first came out in beta, I noticed a marked decrease in mouse speed. On 2 seperate computers in which one was built by dell and one I built recently, mouse speed in the game had cut to virtually half if not far less then what it should be... Or in comparison to the prior NS release.
Now, my issue is that I am unable to locate the reason why this is so. Anyone else who plays on the game server I am on swears it is a configuration issue on my end because they do not have the issue.. Of course, I thought of that first, so I did check the settings on my end.
Here is what I did.
I have installed Windows 3 times and still had no luck. I went from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Home and a recently purchased Windows XP Home (due to disc damage on my prior Windows XP Home) and the results have been exactly the same
-->I ensured mouse speed was at max in the Windows Control Panel. I have also cut it down as far as half and then at various positions... Current setting is at max. Makes using windows rather hard.
-->I ensured the mouse acceleration was off... I have also attempted this with it on. Mouse Acceleration is disabled.
-->I ensured that the game setting was at 20. I have also used various settings, the lower the setting the worse it got. Current Setting is 20
-->Mouse Filter has been enabled and disabled as well as auto-aim. As of now, mousefilter is off and auto-aim is on.
I also have a Radeon 9600 Pro with 256 of memory, and the drivers are up to date. In fact, all my drivers are up to date... Even when I used the Razor Diamondback drivers and even the standard ones with Windows... Nothing matters.
Again, in any other game... I will see the effects of max mouse sensitivity as my mouse pointer moves really fast.
Now, nothing was changed in the NS config... And I have installed NS and Steam about 20 times in an attempt to figure out what is going on.
I know this is odd that no one else has this issue... but the only thing I can say is that before I never had this problem using the version before 3.2
I ask you now for any help you can offer to figure out what is gonig on in this what appears to be odd issue.
The link below is to my mouse... For reference purposes of course
<a href="http://www.razerzone.com/Products/Gaming-Mice/Razer-Diamondback-Gaming-Mouse/" target="_blank">http://www.razerzone.com/Products/Gaming-M...k-Gaming-Mouse/</a>
I have seen where people wanted to improve mouse speed, or decrease it... But in this case, I am in a odd pickle when it comes to getting my mosue at full speed.
I have played NS with the prior version before the 3.2 was released and had no problems with my mouse at full speed. I was able to do a 180 with moving my mouse by moving it less then half an inch. Even with Tourettes Syndrome, the increased and max speed proved to be most useful in reducing response time when turning around and etc.
When the version 3.2 first came out in beta, I noticed a marked decrease in mouse speed. On 2 seperate computers in which one was built by dell and one I built recently, mouse speed in the game had cut to virtually half if not far less then what it should be... Or in comparison to the prior NS release.
Now, my issue is that I am unable to locate the reason why this is so. Anyone else who plays on the game server I am on swears it is a configuration issue on my end because they do not have the issue.. Of course, I thought of that first, so I did check the settings on my end.
Here is what I did.
I have installed Windows 3 times and still had no luck. I went from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Home and a recently purchased Windows XP Home (due to disc damage on my prior Windows XP Home) and the results have been exactly the same
-->I ensured mouse speed was at max in the Windows Control Panel. I have also cut it down as far as half and then at various positions... Current setting is at max. Makes using windows rather hard.
-->I ensured the mouse acceleration was off... I have also attempted this with it on. Mouse Acceleration is disabled.
-->I ensured that the game setting was at 20. I have also used various settings, the lower the setting the worse it got. Current Setting is 20
-->Mouse Filter has been enabled and disabled as well as auto-aim. As of now, mousefilter is off and auto-aim is on.
I also have a Radeon 9600 Pro with 256 of memory, and the drivers are up to date. In fact, all my drivers are up to date... Even when I used the Razor Diamondback drivers and even the standard ones with Windows... Nothing matters.
Again, in any other game... I will see the effects of max mouse sensitivity as my mouse pointer moves really fast.
Now, nothing was changed in the NS config... And I have installed NS and Steam about 20 times in an attempt to figure out what is going on.
I know this is odd that no one else has this issue... but the only thing I can say is that before I never had this problem using the version before 3.2
I ask you now for any help you can offer to figure out what is gonig on in this what appears to be odd issue.
The link below is to my mouse... For reference purposes of course
<a href="http://www.razerzone.com/Products/Gaming-Mice/Razer-Diamondback-Gaming-Mouse/" target="_blank">http://www.razerzone.com/Products/Gaming-M...k-Gaming-Mouse/</a>
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-noforcemaccel -noforceparm -noforcemspeed
to your natural-selection startup.
(Steam --> ns --> right click --> propertities --> set launch options)
Are you sure its still not some mouse accel issue?
First try recording ingame. (record <thenameofthedemo> in your console while playing.) I've heard it fixes some mouse accel issues.
Mouses with more than 400 dpi (diamondback 1600 dpi) tend to get messed up by accel. No matter if you disable the accel from windows or not, there's always some. This can be removed by a patch or manual change in registry. I myself fixed it manually :
<a href="http://www.gw2k.co.uk/Windows-Guides/Mouse-Acceleration-Fix.php" target="_blank">guide</a>. Probably better to make sure you have a backup registry before doing that though.
Those are the basic mouse configurations I've done. I've got diamondback and its finally working properly now.
NS for some reason, has a weird sensitivity. I have to lower mine to 2.0 when my other games like CZ or HL1 are 2.5.
I have used the suggestions you provided Bacillus and the mouse speeds seem to have a little more pep in it, but it still seems like it is no where near where it should be.
I am not sure what is causing this, but perhaps sometime soon or in the future a reason can or will be identified as to what causes this...
Thank you for your suggestion Bacillus...
I located a new generic mouse driver for Windows XP... According to the read me text file, this is the principle behind it
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The patch replaces the original Windows mouse class driver. It filters every incoming message from the mouse, and if it detects a change in direction it subtracts one (1) from the movement ticks. It does NOT do any kind of temporal filtering which would slow the mouse reaction !<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I went a little further and also did a USB Polling tweak using a program that patches the usbport.sys file... Now, my USB polling is at 1,000 Mhz (so far it works just fine with my mouse and no issues as of yet)
While the modified version of the mouclass.sys I obtained is/was/indicated for the Razor Diamondback mouse, others have reported significant response increase from modifying there USB Polling rates..
I am not sure if the USB Polling thing will hurt my PC at all, let alone my mouse... However no system instability has occured yet and my system is rather new... At least, it has USB 2.0 and etc...
Let's say... It brought back what I had sorely and most direly missed... My real true mouse speed has once more returned in full.