Embedding subtitles into a DivX or Xvid file

RustySpoon

<div class="IPBDescription">For playing on my Zen Vision</div>Me and my friends enjoy watching all sorts of random shows that the local channels don't have, but the problem is most aren't fluid in English, and are used to watching T.V. with subtitles. I use my Vision:M player, with the output cable, to show the video on a T.V., but most of the fun jokes and plot are missed. The player isn't able to show subtitles by default, so I was thinking if anyone had experience in hardcoding subtitles directly into the film.

I've tried many different proggies, like AviSub, which does all the work, displays a "Success" message and all that, but the file itself then has no subtitles at all. Also I tried VirtualDub and AutoGuardianKnot, which actually re-encode the entire film to include the subtitles, a process which takes countless hours. I could do it that way, but the re-encoding process is ridiculously long.

I was hoping someone had some personal experience on this, since I've been looking for ages with google, and a simple "www.progamthatembedssubtitles.com kthx" reply isn't what I'm looking for here. Alternative methods are welcome and any help at all is appreciated, since we're all great fans of the all encompassing vision radio.

Thanks in advance.

Thansal

Well, what format are these movies in?

You mention AutoGK, and thus I am guessing DVDs.....

Jimmeh

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Write each line onto a piece of paper, then when it comes to the appropriate part hold the paper in front of the TV.

RustySpoon

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Well, what format are these movies in?

You mention AutoGK, and thus I am guessing DVDs.....
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Xvid and Divx mostly.

Faskalia

What about custom firmware, that autoreads subtitles, when placed together with the vidfile ?

I dont own a zen vision, but is installing custom software players an option? If yes, you could simply go with vlc and then read in the subs.

Tykjen

use virtualdubmod and add the subtitle file as a stream into the avi.

Kouji_San

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use virtualdubmod and add the subtitle file as a stream into the avi.
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Bah <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

Anyway I found something similar?

Subtitler-2_4:
<a href="http://www.virtualdub.org/virtualdub_filters" target="_blank">http://www.virtualdub.org/virtualdub_filters</a>

RustySpoon

The problem with VDubMod is that you have to re-encode the entire video to just include the subtitle, which really takes ages.

And no, I can't install any custom software on the player.

KungFuDiscoMonkey

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The problem with VDubMod is that you have to re-encode the entire video to just include the subtitle, which really takes ages.

And no, I can't install any custom software on the player.
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I think that's what you would pretty much need to do with any program.

AnarkiThreeXSix

I'm pretty sure you'd have to reencode the subtitles in if you want to watch something like that on your vision. So virtualdub is the way to go. The zen, as far as I know it doesn't support subtitle files. :|

I have to encode like half the stuff I put on my zen anyways, mostly if its AC3 audio. Bit of a hassle, but well worth it to watch fun things when I have the time on the sexyness that is the zen. Good thing I got a new fancy cpu so encoding isn't a ###### really ^_^.

Tykjen

Direct Stream Copy mode works when you just wanna add something into the stream, may it be sound or subtitle.
You DONT have to fully re encode.

RustySpoon

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Direct Stream Copy mode works when you just wanna add something into the stream, may it be sound or subtitle.
You DONT have to fully re encode.
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You mind walking me though the process? I tried it myself, but ended up with only 800mb of audio. The only thing I did is check the box for subtitle overlay.

Kayomani

A excellent and not to well known tool is <a href="http://www.acc.umu.se/~individ/kawaiiriver/" target="_blank">kawaiiriver</a> although this is designed to take mkv container files (and most other formats without external subs) but its not hard to mux a avi+subs into a mkv and the nice thing is you'll not have to recode the video so its quick and theres no loss in quality. This tool basically converts most things to xvid and the bit rate you select, it has presets for the zen screen size.

AnarkiThreeXSix

Tykjen, can you explain how to use the subtitle file as a stream in VDubMod, I've tried tinkering but can't get it to work?