Gamemodi: Cyborgs?
Goldenprize
Join Date: 2006-11-05 Member: 58379Members
Join Date: 2006-11-05 Member: 58379Members
Ya simple idea.
Aliens Versus Marines and Versus Cyborgs in Classic Mode.
The maps with Half-Life 2 engine can be big.
So all is the same like in NS1 classic, except the cyborgs.
They are made by humans to defend and destroy the aliens from Kharaa.
It was bound to happen sooner or later, the cyborgs with there A.I. get awareness and want to live on.
So they build there own living platforms:
If you spawn as SUnit*, you have an interface like aliens.
But you can not morph, you get an animation that looks like you weld yourself.
After this, you spawn as new unit.
Units:
<!--coloro:#44DD44--><span style="color:#44DD44"><!--/coloro-->- Standard spawn unit*{ mechatron } Small wheeled unit with build interface(can build like alien units)
Weapons are:
low damage projectile weapon
flashlight
repair tool (only one unit that can repair mates)
and more...not final<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:#44DD44--><span style="color:#44DD44"><!--/coloro-->- Nano Spider { Attack unit } 6 Legs, the legs have small vents, in these vents are sticky substance, that allow you to stay on a surface like the skulk from aliens.
But you cant walk on them!
Weapons are:
advanced low projectile weapon
Jumping on walls and stick on them
and more...not final<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:#44DD44--><span style="color:#44DD44"><!--/coloro-->- Hunter { hover unit} with build interface(can build like alien units) the hover is not high, but the fly level allow to transport a teammate.
That means, this unit can hover over the ground, but aliens can still attack it
Weapons are:
advanced low projectile weapon
mines
transport one teammate.
and more...not final<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:#44DD44--><span style="color:#44DD44"><!--/coloro-->- Destroyer {Cyborg unit} constructed to help the humans versus the onos aliens.
So this unit is not fast, but strong.
He can move like a human soldier, but slower.
He CAN't jump, but climb objects.
Weapons are:
medium projectile weapon
mechanic arms (melee attack)
and more...not final<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
Upgrades:
<!--coloro:#FF6666--><span style="color:#FF6666"><!--/coloro-->weapon damage >
[if you die your upgrade is lost and you need to buy again]
- Standard spawn unit = adv. low damage projectile weapon
- Nano Spider = medium damage projectile weapon
- Hunter = medium damage projectile weapon
- Destroyer = adv. medium damage projectile weapon
<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:#FFFF66--><span style="color:#FFFF66"><!--/coloro-->3 Defence upgrade >
[if you die your upgrade is lost and you need to buy again]
- Standard spawn unit = 10% stronger | repair nano unit, repair you if you are do nothing | +10% armor|
- Nano Spider = 12% stronger | repair nano unit, repair you if you are do nothing | +12% armor|
- Hunter = 15% stronger | repair nano unit, repair you if you are do nothing | +15% armor|
- Destroyer = 20% stronger | repair nano unit, repair you if you are do nothing | +20% armor|<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
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Buildings all build by SUnit's
Clone Cells [can't be build, only repair by SUnit's, respawn cyborg units like the hive from aliens]
Repairstation [to repair units/ teammates]
Ressource tower [build by SUnit's]
Defence tech. building [need res, allows youre team to research 1 defence upgrade]
Attack tech. building [need res, allows youre team to research 1 weapon damage]
Arm station [gives you ammunition]<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
only a simple idea <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />
Edit:
if one team dies, the player will divided to the last 2 teams.
Aliens Versus Marines and Versus Cyborgs in Classic Mode.
The maps with Half-Life 2 engine can be big.
So all is the same like in NS1 classic, except the cyborgs.
They are made by humans to defend and destroy the aliens from Kharaa.
It was bound to happen sooner or later, the cyborgs with there A.I. get awareness and want to live on.
So they build there own living platforms:
If you spawn as SUnit*, you have an interface like aliens.
But you can not morph, you get an animation that looks like you weld yourself.
After this, you spawn as new unit.
Units:
<!--coloro:#44DD44--><span style="color:#44DD44"><!--/coloro-->- Standard spawn unit*{ mechatron } Small wheeled unit with build interface(can build like alien units)
Weapons are:
low damage projectile weapon
flashlight
repair tool (only one unit that can repair mates)
and more...not final<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:#44DD44--><span style="color:#44DD44"><!--/coloro-->- Nano Spider { Attack unit } 6 Legs, the legs have small vents, in these vents are sticky substance, that allow you to stay on a surface like the skulk from aliens.
But you cant walk on them!
Weapons are:
advanced low projectile weapon
Jumping on walls and stick on them
and more...not final<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:#44DD44--><span style="color:#44DD44"><!--/coloro-->- Hunter { hover unit} with build interface(can build like alien units) the hover is not high, but the fly level allow to transport a teammate.
That means, this unit can hover over the ground, but aliens can still attack it
Weapons are:
advanced low projectile weapon
mines
transport one teammate.
and more...not final<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:#44DD44--><span style="color:#44DD44"><!--/coloro-->- Destroyer {Cyborg unit} constructed to help the humans versus the onos aliens.
So this unit is not fast, but strong.
He can move like a human soldier, but slower.
He CAN't jump, but climb objects.
Weapons are:
medium projectile weapon
mechanic arms (melee attack)
and more...not final<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
Upgrades:
<!--coloro:#FF6666--><span style="color:#FF6666"><!--/coloro-->weapon damage >
[if you die your upgrade is lost and you need to buy again]
- Standard spawn unit = adv. low damage projectile weapon
- Nano Spider = medium damage projectile weapon
- Hunter = medium damage projectile weapon
- Destroyer = adv. medium damage projectile weapon
<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:#FFFF66--><span style="color:#FFFF66"><!--/coloro-->3 Defence upgrade >
[if you die your upgrade is lost and you need to buy again]
- Standard spawn unit = 10% stronger | repair nano unit, repair you if you are do nothing | +10% armor|
- Nano Spider = 12% stronger | repair nano unit, repair you if you are do nothing | +12% armor|
- Hunter = 15% stronger | repair nano unit, repair you if you are do nothing | +15% armor|
- Destroyer = 20% stronger | repair nano unit, repair you if you are do nothing | +20% armor|<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:#FF99FF--><span style="color:#FF99FF"><!--/coloro-->
Buildings all build by SUnit's
Clone Cells [can't be build, only repair by SUnit's, respawn cyborg units like the hive from aliens]
Repairstation [to repair units/ teammates]
Ressource tower [build by SUnit's]
Defence tech. building [need res, allows youre team to research 1 defence upgrade]
Attack tech. building [need res, allows youre team to research 1 weapon damage]
Arm station [gives you ammunition]<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
only a simple idea <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />
Edit:
if one team dies, the player will divided to the last 2 teams.
Comments
well, i like the idea of new races (and i actually had them myself, more or less inspired by sci-fi series)
3 teams in 1 round could cause problems since 2 can stick together and kill the other team then fight against each other, but its also a feature which would allow the best team to lose <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
would be really mean in clan matches, but on public its probably fun.
i wouldnt go into detail so much because game balancing will take its time and other people have good ideas too. however its nice that you have made so much work on such an idea and that you have given guidelines others can easily agree too
i dont know what the engine allows, but if you make really big maps you could also get another team,so you have 4, maybe an alien class which is really weak but has super technologies (balancing will be difficult, I AGREE). this would probably include laser weapons, maybe spytechniques fore marines, tactical pacts with other teams etc. i think this could really be fun <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />
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doesnt mean the game should always have maps with 4 teams, i think the game should have several game modes:
-classic: alien vs marine
-combat: alien vs marine
-adv combat: 3/4 teams on bigger maps
-adv classic: 3/4 teams in a rts/fps game mode
-escort maps: 1 team has to achieve certain goals on a map and the other team has to defend it (races are dependant on mapping?)
so please dont just say this idea is ish because its not like ns is <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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1) Balance - We have enough challenges balancing TSA marine vs Kharaa alien.
2) Cyborgs - take a look at this. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" /> Cybernetic Organisms already exist, we've been playing them as the TSA Marine.
IMHO, this is not a good idea.
Two things:
1) Balance - We have enough challenges balancing TSA marine vs Kharaa alien.
2) Cyborgs - take a look at this. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" /> Cybernetic Organisms already exist, we've been playing them as the TSA Marine.
IMHO, this is not a good idea.
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1) WE? are you a dev...i think no
2) lol this is only the armor...do you think kevlar is a cyborg suit :::::LOL:::::
@Bloo
no, but you can evolve in 3 years to an adult <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />
Can you evolve to Optimus Prime?
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No no, surely the final evolution will be the silver surfer and galactus!
<img src="http://www.leaderslair.com/marvelvillains/Galactus.gif" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />
Perhaps this could spout a new game mode where the cyborgs are hunting for their home on this elusive comet!
TSA use nanites, that should classify marines as cyborgs, minus the robotic replacements. Medpacks heal marines nearly instantly and medpacks are filled with nanites which are micro robots, sounds cyborgic enough.
Do come up with more 3rd race ideas but think of the backstory.
1) WE? are you a dev...i think no
2) lol this is only the armor...do you think kevlar is a cyborg suit :::::LOL:::::
@Bloo
no, but you can evolve in 3 years to an adult <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />
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All they're saying, in a very sarcastic manner, is that this idea would never be implemented because of the vast amount of changes that would have to be made to the game just to make it balanced. Also, the TSA do not use kevlar, they use nanomachines to do everything; Nanites; 'Cyborgs.'
Also, all of the gameplay styles have pretty much been covered between the TSA and the aliens. Your wall walker is a skulk, your hover unit is a gimped lerk, your destroyer is a super overpowered walker marine with an HMG and cybernetic katanas coming out of his ######.
Your ideas need to be 'smaller.' Suggesting a new weapon or building or equipment or alien (alien where the role has not been filled) is fine, but suggesting an entire new race with all its own buildings, units, weapons, <b>tech tree unique and specific from aliens and marines,</b> its too much.
Two sides are hard enough to balance if well-diversified from each other. Both sides are well-diversified as is. Adding another side would mean complete map overhauls, having to add more space, more res, and have to change the feel of the maps in general to incorperate a third race. Please read the post above as well. I think that the whole idea of cyborgs vs. humans needs to stick with something like Star Trek, or simply be in another game.