Make a handheld, self-contained laser capable of lighting a match.

ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
edited August 2007 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">WARNING ULTRA DANGEROUS! WILL BLIND YOU!</div><!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Srsly don't do this without being really super careful. A quarter of a watt being focussed onto the two square millimeter patch of light detector cells in the back of your eyeball will instantly and permanently blind you.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

That said, <a href="http://lifehacker.com/software/diy/turn-a-flashlight-into-a-handheld-burning-laser-287252.php" target="_blank">this </a> is damn cool. It details how to build a 250 milliwatt laser out of a 16 speed dvd burner and a few odds and ends. The video shows the construction of the device and it being used to light a match and pop a balloon. Pretty nifty. I'm half-considering picking up the parts and trying this out. A dvd burner only costs $60 or so nowdays.

--Scythe--

P.S. If this turns out to be an elaborate prank, I wouldn't be surprised.

Comments

  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
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  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    edited August 2007
    Wouldn't this be considered at Class IIIa laser product, aka illegal?

    Cool find, i'll make one later out of my old cd drive. Might not burn or anything, but it would make a awesome laser
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I bet a laser made out of a BLU-RAY drive PWNSTF out of a laser made out of a HD-DVD drive.

    next generation format war, now officially over !
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    Coolio. Now I just need a soldering iron...
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    I don't doubt it would work, but I'm unsure of how powerful it would be.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1642947:date=Aug 9 2007, 12:39 PM:name=puzl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(puzl @ Aug 9 2007, 12:39 PM) [snapback]1642947[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I bet a laser made out of a BLU-RAY drive PWNSTF out of a laser made out of a HD-DVD drive.

    next generation format war, now officially over !
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    Blu-ray is named as such because it uses blue light, with thinner wavelength than that of the normal red lasers, allowing more indentations to be written or read on the same amount of space. I don't think it'd be more suitable for generating heat.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    awesome how easy it sounds to do, but I wouldn't trust myself with it. I'd point it at a shiny surface by mistake and shoot the beam back at me and wreck myself.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    edited August 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1642961:date=Aug 9 2007, 09:14 AM:name=DiscoZombie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DiscoZombie @ Aug 9 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]1642961[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    awesome how easy it sounds to do, but I wouldn't trust myself with it. I'd point it at a shiny surface by mistake and shoot the beam back at me and wreck myself.
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    I thought the same thing, but concluded that the coolness of being able to carry around a small laser device capable of lighting a match more than makes up for permanent blindness.

    *update*

    After careful consideration I have concluded that this is too awesome for me not to pursue further. I've got a spare DVD burner (somewhere), a minimag (somewhere), access to the appropriate tools, and I've ordered the laser housing (a whopping £2.28). If I suddenly stop posting in the next few weeks I've probably suffered a horrible laser-related death. Otherwise, I'll try to post some pics, assuming it works.
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    <!--quoteo(post=1642963:date=Aug 9 2007, 10:40 AM:name=Nil_IQ)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nil_IQ @ Aug 9 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]1642963[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    If I suddenly stop posting in the next few weeks I've probably suffered a horrible laser-related death. Otherwise, I'll try to post some pics, assuming it works.
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    Way to take one for the team ^_^
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    Keep in mind: The faster the write speed, the more powerful your potential laser. It's also pretty unlikely you could blind yourself with a reflection, the beams are focused for short distance work, so a reflection would be terribly diffused/unfocused.

    Drfuzzy: Im pretty sure they aren't illegal, I have a class IV nd:YAG laser I purchased off ebay (Old SSY-1 Rangefinding laser). Sadly it doesn't really pop balloons or light matches, the beam just atomizes the inks in the objects, turning any dark colored object white in 1 msec.
  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1642976:date=Aug 9 2007, 11:55 AM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Aug 9 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]1642976[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Drfuzzy: Im pretty sure they aren't illegal, I have a class IV nd:YAG laser I purchased off ebay (Old SSY-1 Rangefinding laser). Sadly it doesn't really pop balloons or light matches, the beam just atomizes the inks in the objects, turning any dark colored object white in 1 msec.
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    So it's high-tech whiteout? what do you use it for? Changing the names on checks and other important documents?
  • SkyrageSkyrage Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20249Members
    So this is how light-sabers first started out huh? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1642987:date=Aug 9 2007, 12:39 PM:name=locallyunscene)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(locallyunscene @ Aug 9 2007, 12:39 PM) [snapback]1642987[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    So it's high-tech whiteout? what do you use it for? Changing the names on checks and other important documents?
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    That crossed my mind when I first got it ;P
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    Pah. I can light matches with sandpaper, I don't need no high tech thingymabob to do it for me. You kids and your technology....

    The potential for anonymously making children cry by popping balloons from a distance, though... if it really does work...
  • HybridclawHybridclaw Join Date: 2003-11-03 Member: 22271Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1643025:date=Aug 9 2007, 03:20 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Aug 9 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]1643025[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    The potential for anonymously making children cry by popping balloons from a distance, though... if it really does work...
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    I was thinkg about setting my neighbors dog on fire <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    <!--quoteo(post=1642976:date=Aug 10 2007, 01:55 AM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Aug 10 2007, 01:55 AM) [snapback]1642976[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's also pretty unlikely you could blind yourself with a reflection, the beams are focused for short distance work, so a reflection would be terribly diffused/unfocused.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The laser, by definition, fires out a coherent beam of photons traveling parallel to eachother, they'll never focus of their own accord. They'll scatter a bit due to atmospheric effects, but that's to be expected. The focusing for writing to the dvd is done by a little lens that sits over the diode.

    I wonder if it would be possible to bugger up the data on a DVD-R by shining this at it. I suspect that if it doesn't cook the dye in the writable layer it might melt the surface of the disc.

    --Scythe--
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    Alright, I'm going to try and build this. I didn't want to wait for the housing thing to get here, so I disassembled a laser pen. We'll see if that works.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1643065:date=Aug 9 2007, 03:52 PM:name=Mantrid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mantrid @ Aug 9 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]1643065[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Alright, I'm going to try and build this. I didn't want to wait for the housing thing to get here, so I disassembled a laser pen. We'll see if that works.
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    If you die, can I have your stuff? Or, if you go blind, can I have the stuff that you can't use as a blind person? Books, etc.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Great, now instead of just shining crap on movie screens they'll be setting the screen on fire and blinding everyone in the theatre. :/
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1643061:date=Aug 9 2007, 06:34 PM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Aug 9 2007, 06:34 PM) [snapback]1643061[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    The laser, by definition, fires out a coherent beam of photons traveling parallel to eachother, they'll never focus of their own accord. They'll scatter a bit due to atmospheric effects, but that's to be expected. The focusing for writing to the dvd is done by a little lens that sits over the diode.

    I wonder if it would be possible to bugger up the data on a DVD-R by shining this at it. I suspect that if it doesn't cook the dye in the writable layer it might melt the surface of the disc.

    --Scythe--
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    Exactly? I was saying that since they are probably focused so that their hottest point (when the dot is the smallest) is like 2 cm away from the diode itself, if it were to reflect off of an object it would travel far enough that the beam would become spread out more.

    It's unlikely it would burn a dvd, since the bottom IS reflective. Also, if you have ever wondered how the light-scribe function in a DvD burner works, it just uses the laser diode to burn the top of the disc.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    <!--quoteo(post=1643073:date=Aug 10 2007, 09:33 AM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Aug 10 2007, 09:33 AM) [snapback]1643073[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Exactly? I was saying that since they are probably focused so that their hottest point (when the dot is the smallest) is like 2 cm away from the diode itself, if it were to reflect off of an object it would travel far enough that the beam would become spread out more.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    My point is that you remove the focusing lens when building the thing so there is no focal point. The only losses you're going to get are from atmospheric effects.

    --Scythe--
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1642953:date=Aug 9 2007, 06:43 AM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Align @ Aug 9 2007, 06:43 AM) [snapback]1642953[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Blu-ray is named as such because it uses purple (but 'blu' tested higher than 'prpl') light...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    fix'd
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited August 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1643061:date=Aug 9 2007, 05:34 PM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Aug 9 2007, 05:34 PM) [snapback]1643061[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    The laser, by definition, fires out a coherent beam of photons traveling parallel to eachother, they'll never focus of their own accord. They'll scatter a bit due to atmospheric effects, but that's to be expected. The focusing for writing to the dvd is done by a little lens that sits over the diode.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The smallest cavity through which the beam passes sets a lower limit on beam divergence(due to the uncertainty principle). Laser diodes have a very small opening in one direction and therefor a HUGE spread(typically multiple degrees) in that direction if not focused. They usually come with a plastic lens integrated in the casing to make the beam roughly parallel.
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