<!--quoteo(post=1645805:date=Aug 27 2007, 08:23 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Aug 27 2007, 08:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1645805"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The WF guy barely speaks English, and his game's free anyways. I doubt he really cares.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Okay, maybe I smelled a waft of poop that drifted in through the window then. Smells almost the same as a lawsuit.
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<!--quoteo(post=1645797:date=Aug 27 2007, 11:32 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Aug 27 2007, 11:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1645797"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's sort of like someone taking Half-Life 2 and making an RTS game called "Full-Life" where you control either the Combine or the Rebels in an intense fight through the ruins of City 17. The gameplay's different but you're using the guns and characters of the other game, not to mention the name and setting, when you could have created your own universe and stuff and used all of that instead of stealing anything at all.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> But that would be a Mod, if it was a stand-alone game Valve would ###### all over it.
The two games I tried on the list (Within a Deep Forest and Torrus Trooper) didn't run... boo.
<!--quoteo(post=1645850:date=Aug 27 2007, 03:52 PM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Aug 27 2007, 03:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1645850"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->But that would be a Mod, if it was a stand-alone game Valve would ###### all over it.
The two games I tried on the list (Within a Deep Forest and Torrus Trooper) didn't run... boo.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nah, it wouldn't be a mod unless you built it on the Source engine.
Oh my frigging Christ. Some of you guys are just plain stupid or what? Stealing from another game??
Well, let's take NS then - taking a heckload of stuff from Starcraft and using these concepts in their own design. It's exactly the same frigging thing.
How the hell do you think that most games evolve at all if it's not to take concepts from other games and add your own ideas into the mix? And just cause graphics happens to be the same vector based kind - it's not like Warning Forever has copyright on that either.
Sorry, Flayra, but I think you'll have to give up on NS - you're clearly stealing too many concepts from other games - FPS games, sci-fi games, and even RTS-based games. Cease and desist dammit!
<!--quoteo(post=1645855:date=Aug 27 2007, 03:59 PM:name=Skyrage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Skyrage @ Aug 27 2007, 03:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1645855"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oh my frigging Christ. Some of you guys are just plain stupid or what? Stealing from another game??
Well, let's take NS then - taking a heckload of stuff from Starcraft and using these concepts in their own design. It's exactly the same frigging thing.
How the hell do you think that most games evolve at all if it's not to take concepts from other games and add your own ideas into the mix? And just cause graphics happens to be the same vector based kind - it's not like Warning Forever has copyright on that either.
Sorry, Flayra, but I think you'll have to give up on NS - you're clearly stealing too many concepts from other games - FPS games, sci-fi games, and even RTS-based games. Cease and desist dammit!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--quoteo(post=1645855:date=Aug 27 2007, 02:59 PM:name=Skyrage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Skyrage @ Aug 27 2007, 02:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1645855"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well, let's take NS then - taking a heckload of stuff from Starcraft and using these concepts in their own design. It's exactly the same frigging thing.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> We're talking about the art, and NS doesn't look like StarCraft. At All. Ever.
Artwork is it now? Thought we were talking about concepts altogether.
As for the art concept is the same as in Warning Forever, but it's nothing that apparently was "stolen" directly. At least I can't see any identical features between those two games. Nothing wrong with that, and it's the same thing as anything else. It's his own stuff, but ideas borrowed from someone else. It's the same thing as arguing for instance about infantry, tank or naval units in RTS games. Look bit different but are more or less the same thing otherwise.
I remember it was one hell of a fuzz here about theft when that Quake 3 mod (or nowadays a standalone game) came out which had extremely similar concepts to that of NS.........
That would be Tremulous, which I believe started development either before NS did, or before NS released, don't remember which. Also, Tremulous fans get very upset if you draw parrallels between the two games.
Well, aside from BF having the same art style as WF (if you deny this, you are a moron. Even the name is a reference to the other game) it's a pretty good game. Seriously though, it needs multiplayer so bad.
Custom ship editor = ultra-win. Building huge battleships and giving them like 50 weapons is hilarious.
Battleships Forever is really good :O . Gotta keep an eye out for new versions and the multiplayer <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />
Making your own ships is loads'o'fun. Behold... The Omega! (I put those two battleships there to give an idea of the size :T ) <a href="http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omegaqx8.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4678/omegaqx8.th.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
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Okay, maybe I smelled a waft of poop that drifted in through the window then. Smells almost the same as a lawsuit.
*titter*
But that would be a Mod, if it was a stand-alone game Valve would ###### all over it.
The two games I tried on the list (Within a Deep Forest and Torrus Trooper) didn't run... boo.
The two games I tried on the list (Within a Deep Forest and Torrus Trooper) didn't run... boo.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nah, it wouldn't be a mod unless you built it on the Source engine.
Well, let's take NS then - taking a heckload of stuff from Starcraft and using these concepts in their own design. It's exactly the same frigging thing.
How the hell do you think that most games evolve at all if it's not to take concepts from other games and add your own ideas into the mix? And just cause graphics happens to be the same vector based kind - it's not like Warning Forever has copyright on that either.
Sorry, Flayra, but I think you'll have to give up on NS - you're clearly stealing too many concepts from other games - FPS games, sci-fi games, and even RTS-based games. Cease and desist dammit!
Well, let's take NS then - taking a heckload of stuff from Starcraft and using these concepts in their own design. It's exactly the same frigging thing.
How the hell do you think that most games evolve at all if it's not to take concepts from other games and add your own ideas into the mix? And just cause graphics happens to be the same vector based kind - it's not like Warning Forever has copyright on that either.
Sorry, Flayra, but I think you'll have to give up on NS - you're clearly stealing too many concepts from other games - FPS games, sci-fi games, and even RTS-based games. Cease and desist dammit!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Starcraft
<img src="http://havard.no-ip.info/pics/news/starcraft.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Natural Selection
<img src="http://www.unknownworlds.com/images/ns/screenshots/ns-hera.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Warning Forever
<img src="http://www.hardwaretidende.dk/hard/artikelimages/24062004-55.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Battleships Forever
<img src="http://64digits.com/users/th15/twinhecate.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
You're a weener.
We're talking about the art, and NS doesn't look like StarCraft. At All. Ever.
As for the art concept is the same as in Warning Forever, but it's nothing that apparently was "stolen" directly. At least I can't see any identical features between those two games. Nothing wrong with that, and it's the same thing as anything else. It's his own stuff, but ideas borrowed from someone else. It's the same thing as arguing for instance about infantry, tank or naval units in RTS games. Look bit different but are more or less the same thing otherwise.
I remember it was one hell of a fuzz here about theft when that Quake 3 mod (or nowadays a standalone game) came out which had extremely similar concepts to that of NS.........
Custom ship editor = ultra-win. Building huge battleships and giving them like 50 weapons is hilarious.
<a href="http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omegaqx8.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4678/omegaqx8.th.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
It's still unarmed, but I'm working on that >:P