software mode not supported by natural selection

XamotXamot Join Date: 2007-10-10 Member: 62600Members
<div class="IPBDescription">But it gets a bit more complicated</div>Hello my fellow gamers~ My name is Xamot ^_^. Nice to meet you all

Anyways, I have a problem getting this Amazing game to work on my Computer, I checked all the Stickies before I posted this Topic and the closest I can get was the Solution from "Flayra", which he said in his post:

"NS says 'software mode not supported' and doesn't work? (NS doesn't support software rendering, so try OpenGL or Direct3D instead)"

Yes that is my problem. After I did what he instructed. I switched from Software Mode to OpenGL Mode, the screen tries to reload like its supposed to but I get a pop-up window that says "The specified video mode is not supported. The game will now run in software mode."
I don't like the sound of that...

I also changed it to Direct 3D, but all the words in the game screen were smashed up close together and worst of all the screen slows down really bad and white dots cover the whole screen ..

Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me~!

Comments

  • corpsmancorpsman Join Date: 2004-04-17 Member: 27979Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Whats your system specs, GPU, RAM, etc etc [including monitor]?
  • XamotXamot Join Date: 2007-10-10 Member: 62600Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1655246:date=Oct 11 2007, 02:56 AM:name=corpsman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(corpsman @ Oct 11 2007, 02:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1655246"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Whats your system specs, GPU, RAM, etc etc [including monitor]?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't even know where to search for the Tech Specs. I have no idea what the Model number for my Machine is, all I know is the information found in the "System" Icon in the "Control Panel". I hope this helps: AMD Athlon XP 2800+, 1.25 GHz, 512 MB of Ram.
    If you can assist me by telling me where to find all the Information you need, please do so!
    BTW, My Monitor is a Dell, model number# E773C, that is all I know.

    I appreciate your help, corpsman.
    -Xomat
  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Right click on desktop, choose properties. Go to settings tab.

    It should say:
    Display:
    <i>monitor name</i> on <i>graphics card</i>.

    and then list screen resolution and color quality below.

    You probably need to either buy a newer graphics card or update your graphics card drivers.
  • corpsmancorpsman Join Date: 2004-04-17 Member: 27979Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    CPU and ram should be enough, faster then my laptop, but I had to play NS usnig software mode on that too so maybe not. I am willing to bet that it's the video card.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    basically it is your graphics card (either the card itself or drivers)

    NS does not support Software mode, and your card does not support OGL or D3D apparently.

    As this is a prefab system you probably have a very shoddy on board graphics card, possibly one that does not support OGL or D3D at all (there still are some of them).

    Start -> Run -> put in "dxdiag" (sans quotes) and hit enter -> Display -> tell us the name and driver version

    if this does not work for what ever reason, then:

    Windows (key between Ctrl and Alt) + Pause/break (Key is top right of your keyboard somewhere, traditionally with print screen and scroll lock) -> Hardware Tab -> Device Manager -> Display Adapters -> Open the adapter -> Driver
    Tell us the adapter name and the driver verssion

    From there you can Google the information and find drivers, or post here and we can scrounge them up (or find out if there is a way to get it to support DX or OGL)

    However, as everyone stated, you will probably have to buy a new video card. You should be able to pick up a nice PCI or AGP card for not very much money that would compliment your system rather nicely.

    Your system is not good, but with a minimal investment you would be able to run most of the last generation games with no problems (getting .5 or 1.5 more gigs of ram and a video card).

    Well, good luck!
  • XamotXamot Join Date: 2007-10-10 Member: 62600Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1655321:date=Oct 11 2007, 12:49 PM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Oct 11 2007, 12:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1655321"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->basically it is your graphics card (either the card itself or drivers)

    NS does not support Software mode, and your card does not support OGL or D3D apparently.

    As this is a prefab system you probably have a very shoddy on board graphics card, possibly one that does not support OGL or D3D at all (there still are some of them).

    Start -> Run -> put in "dxdiag" (sans quotes) and hit enter -> Display -> tell us the name and driver version

    if this does not work for what ever reason, then:

    Windows (key between Ctrl and Alt) + Pause/break (Key is top right of your keyboard somewhere, traditionally with print screen and scroll lock) -> Hardware Tab -> Device Manager -> Display Adapters -> Open the adapter -> Driver
    Tell us the adapter name and the driver verssion

    From there you can Google the information and find drivers, or post here and we can scrounge them up (or find out if there is a way to get it to support DX or OGL)

    However, as everyone stated, you will probably have to buy a new video card. You should be able to pick up a nice PCI or AGP card for not very much money that would compliment your system rather nicely.

    Your system is not good, but with a minimal investment you would be able to run most of the last generation games with no problems (getting .5 or 1.5 more gigs of ram and a video card).

    Well, good luck!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Thank you so much, I didn't know I would get this much help. The name is "S3 Trio32/64" and the Main Driver is called "s3legacy.dll" and the Version is "5.01.2600.0000".

    I'll Google this Info I just put up later because I must head out to work soon, but if I have problems finding this info (which I'm sure I will), I will come back here and ask for help.

    Thank you for your help everyone! I really Appreciate it so much!
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    sorry mate, but I think you are SoL.

    That card is completely rock bottom, finding ANYTHING on it is hard, and it looks like it has 2mb of video memory.

    you are going to have to buy a new card.

    You can buy a card that will support NS for around $50.

    And probably enough ram to make the difference for around another $50.

    This will not give you a killer gaming rig, but they are upgrades that you will really feel.

    The ram is the key to everything tbh <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> (but to run NS you MUST have a better video card)
  • corpsmancorpsman Join Date: 2004-04-17 Member: 27979Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited October 2007
    I know it's none of my buisness, but before you go and buy yourself a new video card, or RAM, or whatever else, you might want to look at a new system. I don't imagine there will be that many people playing NS1 when Natural Selection 2 comes out. I'm sure there will be some, but you will probably be stuck playnig on so-so servers with the same kind of people. No offense to them, but you know what I mean. If your monitor supports 1024X768 then you could probably buy a new system from dell that can play NS1 and 2 when it's out, for $4-500. They have alot of machines that come with a monitor and a printer for that much, so you could probably save the money from those wasted items and just buy the system [tower only]! Not my buisness, and I know not everyone can afford or chose to spend $ on other more importan things, but really you might end up saving money for a new card, then 6 months from now or whenever NS2 comes out, be sort of SOL again...

    My Asus motherboard has 64megs of video ram ONBOARD! So of course it is not the same as my actual graphics card, but it plays HL2 just fine. You *COULD* buy a new motherboard/chip/ram combo for less then a couple hundred, then put all your other stuff inside. Play NS1 with that for now. Then save for a new video card, plus as neded add everything else on later like a hard drive, more memory, a new sound card if you want. I dont even have a sound card or a network card. The new motherboards dont need it, and I played Oblivion with everything turned all the way up just fine. It is not buying the whole package at once mind you, but I am sure even just using an e6400 with a new mobo using 64megs of onboard memory and sound chip would give you a HUGE difference compared to what you are getting now. Then by the time NS2 comes out you could have enough saved for a new video card.

    Hope this helps. And yeah, that S2 card is damn old dude. You could grab a great card that can even play HL2 for $50, plus even a 1gb ram chip now probably goes for maybe $30 *shrug*

    Quick question, do you live on east or west coast? [don't worry I'm not a weirdo. hehe]
  • efektzefektz Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23665Members, Constellation
    his specs can just "barely run" NS 3.0. Unless he plays 640x480.

    All i can say is:

    Update your directx

    Update vid card software

    make sure when you're in software mode put it at the lowest possible resolution THEN change it to opengl. I think its because your monitor cant handle the resolution.

    Make sure your gfx card is at the "performance" setting.

    You should be able to get at least 60fps if not 30.
  • corpsmancorpsman Join Date: 2004-04-17 Member: 27979Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    He would actually probably do best if he cannot afford to buy a new desktop, just gettin a new motherboard. You can buy a great ASUS motherboard for around $100. It would use the CPU he already owns, plus anything he wants to upgrade latyer. I imagine the onboard sound and video chips would be a huge improvement over what he has, not to mention alot quiter! Then as he wants he could add on a real graphics card, memory, a new CPU, whatever one at a time.

    Puttin in a new video card now is like ductaping a walking cain. Even a highschool kid could mow lawns or do easy afterschool jobs for a month, to buy a new mobo. And yes I know an intergrated GPU chip is not like owning a real video card, but it would be about the same cost, plus he wouldn't be "taping things back in place."
  • XamotXamot Join Date: 2007-10-10 Member: 62600Members
    edited October 2007
    Thats so much info guys, thanks I really did come to the right place ^^. So it looks like I have to give up a couple dollars to play NS, but I prefer corpsman's plan so I can play all the newest Valve games including the soon to come NS 2 Mod and I really want to play NS 2 so I'm going for the complete make over. I will need a little help choosing what parts I need first so I can go out and just get it. I'd rather not go to a salesman at places like "Fry's Electronics" or "Best buy" because they work on commission and my point is they'll give me what will pay them the most. I think if my fellow NS players tell me what you think I should get, It would be much better instead of asking me what I would want. Thank a bunch~!!

    Edit: Almost forgot about corpsman. I live in Texas ^^;;
  • PrefixPrefix Éirinn go Brách Join Date: 2006-12-31 Member: 59353Members, Constellation
    Well, what price range are you intrested in?

    Rember its impossible and/or extremly stupid to spend too much money on the 'latest' pc as it will be out of date in 3 months...
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    /me points at the OT forum.

    LOTS of talk about building new rigs over that way.

    Also most people don't read tech support, you will get a good amount of good advice over there
  • corpsmancorpsman Join Date: 2004-04-17 Member: 27979Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1655568:date=Oct 12 2007, 12:13 PM:name=Xamot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xamot @ Oct 12 2007, 12:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1655568"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thats so much info guys, thanks I really did come to the right place ^^. So it looks like I have to give up a couple dollars to play NS, but I prefer corpsman's plan so I can play all the newest Valve games including the soon to come NS 2 Mod and I really want to play NS 2 so I'm going for the complete make over. I will need a little help choosing what parts I need first so I can go out and just get it. I'd rather not go to a salesman at places like "Fry's Electronics" or "Best buy" because they work on commission and my point is they'll give me what will pay them the most. I think if my fellow NS players tell me what you think I should get, It would be much better instead of asking me what I would want. Thank a bunch~!!

    Edit: Almost forgot about corpsman. I live in Texas ^^;;<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Well, the good thing is that alot of mobo makers now create boards that are upgradable across different CPU and memory values. I remember when buying a new CPU meant you pretty mcuh had to buy a new mobo and RAM chip or two, that sucked.
    I would syuggest just biting the bullet and getting a nice mobo. It will cost yo now sure, but you can enjoy gaming a hell of alot more, especially with the 590 Northbridge chips. When you have money for the video card you want, you already have a motherboard that will use it! Plus, until you actually buy a video card, your system will probably be much cooler and quiter since it would only be using the onboard video chip.

    What motherboard do you have now though??
  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited October 2007
    Errrm.

    I wouldn't buy a new motherboard for that processor. It wouldn't be compatible with new CPUs, and wouldn't help your current situation much (if at all).

    Basically, you can either spend in the neighborhood of $50 and get a graphics card that will let you play older games like Natural Selection, or you can build a whole new computer (probably around $600 minimum).

    I'm guessing you're currently using a built-in video card. You probably have an empty AGP slot on your motherboard. If you can't find the manual for the computer (telling you what expansion slots you have) you should probably just take a photo of the inside of your computer and post it here.

    With your current parts, I would suggest a video card like this one:
    <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130039" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130039</a>

    Anything more will probably be bottlenecked by the rest of your system. (So it would be a waste of money.)

    Than I'd start saving your money for a completely new computer.

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->especially with the 590 Northbridge chips<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Umm... did you read what type of CPU he currently has?!
  • corpsmancorpsman Join Date: 2004-04-17 Member: 27979Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I went that route before I bought the rest and had no problems. I used the integrated graphics chip also for gaming until I decided no my 7950 GX2. Went from barely handling HL1 to playing UT 2k4 just fine with the onboard graphics chip. He would have to buy ram probably though, as he is maybe using SDRAM [just guessing]? If that would let him play NS1 then you definietly have better idea. Then there is no compatability problems.

    I was tryin to think of a way around making a huge investment out of it. I did the step up thing for my parents twice too. First new mobo/chip/RAM, then the rest came later when I could afford it. I guess it depends on your money situation.
  • XamotXamot Join Date: 2007-10-10 Member: 62600Members
    Well I thought about it for a couple hours at work and I think its best that I save up some money in a piggy bank if anyone still uses those little things anyway and then I'll come back here with my money for advice about what I should get ^_^.

    You all have been great help!! Thanks guys. For now I'll be playing CS 1.6 because that works perfect on my system and any other games my Machine could play(?). I really can't wait to play NS though, or NS 2 for that matter! Any other games you think I could play for now to pass the time? Or is this a topic I should make elsewhere?

    Thank you again, I couldn't have made this decision without my fellow PC Gamers!!

    -Xamot
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