My Keyboard concept

schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
<div class="IPBDescription">anyone have any keyboard manuf. contacts?</div>I've thought of this really cool keyboard concept that i think would outsell all of the current "gaming" (read glowling stuff) keyboards currently out in the market.
I was hoping that someone knows someone that is either capable of producing a keyboard or is already working for a company like razor or logitech for example.
Of course i'm keeping it a secret because i want to make a bit of cash along the way - but if anyone leads to some contacts that end up creating my keyboard i'll be happy to give you a cut <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />

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  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    Hmm well, sounds like you should speak to a patent attorney.
  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    probably, but no point patenting something i havent actually got yet, its only a concept. does it cost $$$ to patent something?
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1656028:date=Oct 15 2007, 08:08 AM:name=schkorpio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(schkorpio @ Oct 15 2007, 08:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1656028"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->probably, but no point patenting something i havent actually got yet, its only a concept. does it cost $$$ to patent something?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No, patent attorneys and offices life of air and love.

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    Of course it does cost $$$.

    You could save the money for the attorney, if you do the patenting yourself, but thats not really recommended. A good attorney will cost you about 350$/h

    The overall costs will be most likely around 7500$ for the first 3 years. But then your patent is only viable in the USA. So if someone in Spain decides to copy your design, he is doing nothing illegal. If you want your idea/product to be protected in several countries it will cost of course more $$$.

    To sum it up: Check, if you have 10000$ at your disposal. Then contact a GOOD patent attorney and take it from there.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Or just compile up a design specification and release it to PD where someone will acctually be able to make use of it some day.
  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    wow that sux heh. guess ill have to ask around. if i had ten grand to blow then well i probably do something better with it tbh lol
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    If you're determined, google around on the web about patents - you could probably figure out what to do. I know there's tons of places that will 'help' you patent your idea for free, but I think they either get a large % of the profits or ownership of the patent or both, which is probably something you don't want. You could try looking for the names of executives in the big-name manufacturers and try dropping them a letter or an email but that's obviously a longshot =p good luck at any rate.
  • NEX9NEX9 Join Date: 2005-03-08 Member: 44299Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1656058:date=Oct 15 2007, 06:09 AM:name=schkorpio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(schkorpio @ Oct 15 2007, 06:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1656058"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->wow that sux heh. guess ill have to ask around. if i had ten grand to blow then well i probably do something better with it tbh lol<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    hum you could look around for a angel sponcer, but you need waviers for them to sign if you want to show them anything to really wet there taste buds, if you have a nack for words are a good person and can sell the ifel tower to gorge bush, then you should beable to aprotch a angel sponcer and scratch his back and say g's i got a itch you think you could toss me the quid, lone me a laywer and help me with the extra arms to build a prototype.

    that being said, if you can get a angel sponcer grats, i am still looking and i have a ###### ton of copyrighted material, and a few prototypes on work bench floor. but nothing like a keyboard, i could prolly help ya if your into bondage.

    but the issue with electronics is cercit board lay outs, you cant patient them all. the best thing you can do is design about 80 board layouts with a sparkie, or someone extreamly elec minded, work out the top 50, work out the top ten being the most efficent boards use for money and so on. then pick the lay out the suits you, that you will produce, now you should beable if i am correct, enter a hand full a bunch of lay outs togther, but do them under a different company name, then enter your main lay out that your going to use for the product, note this will take time as you need to search heaps of other patients to make sure your not useing no one else's *note costing more money.

    now produce your keyboard start selling it, every cent you make pay for a new patient from one of the other 50-80 lay outs, get them dated and worked thru in the grinder. once you have the first 30 odd patients in the out box, begin patienting your top ten patients internationaly in major countrys that might pick it up, mostly countrys that already have some of the big keyboard produceing names.

    So once you have 80 patients done, top ten in every posable country, and your main idea patiented in every countury with in the first 2 weeks of sales, then you can start thinking about paying back your angel sponcer what you loned and them some, he may not want his money back, he may want his hand in the business who knows thats your deal you gotta keep it. then you break even on all other exspenses then most likely in a few years time you might start makeing some money, in wich case you prolly should be patienting a new idea from your own bread and butter under useing the same principle minus the angel sponcer, who knows your next idea might be even bigger and you may need to call on him or her again. thats when you start makeing serious money, and if you want to have your grand kids and their grand kids living off of old money as they call it, you need to come up with a clinche market.

    if you cant guess by now why i said spend the time and effort adn money to search for other lay outs other patients and get the top 80 design's done.

    its cos if another company trys to skip courners, and produce your product thru means of reverse engineering and slight modification, in most cases you will find they will be useing one of your other patients, no offence its a dog eat dog world, those ###### wanted to rip your idea, fine take them to court and take them for everything they are worth. and other competative companys the serious ones that will be spending time and effort to cheack for similar circuit lay outs, will be spending there hard earned cash to evetly ages down the track find out, that it wasnt worth it anyways, once they realsie you have all the best lay outs, also a good thing as while they have been spending thousands to see were you are up to on your last bench mark product, instead of designing something new of their own. you are already puting out a new product of your own design.

    Take a look at the company that produced the original tamagotchi, i think thats how its spelt, its a little key ring monster you have to babie sit.
    thee did one circut lay out relased it with in 2 two weeks about 12 other companys released lay outs poduced and sold the little buggers for a 16th less, and the original company got skrewed, over barely broke even, i belive they realised and tryed to take afew places to court, wasteing more money. and this is like a branch of tyco or some such a huge toy company, their sponcers would of been pissed at them cutting courners or not doing it correctly.

    the other conspiracy here tho is the original tamogotchi company produced the original tamo, then also produced all to most of hte cheap version under diffrenet generic brand names, everyone sees a exspensive toy on the market that every one else has or wants, then they go out and buy the cheap lesser brand, when the whole time tyco are makeing both products for a two bob, and selling one design for 50 dollars the others made from cheap plastic for 20 bucks. sales start to drop off make a cheaper lesser variant out of crappyer plastic and sell it for 5 dollars when your makeing each one for 1.40

    their are a lot of loop holes Scor, and a lot of nasty tricks, pairana and other bigger nasty pack hunting fish out there. heed my advice be careful and do your home work, if you happen to do your home work for 10 years the item hasnt been realsed and its still a viable idea, your sitting on a gold mine.
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    edited October 2007
    Nevermind. I was going to say something mean but changed my mind
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    Jesus Nex9, there is such a thing as spellcheck.

    <b>FIRST</b>: Look through the patent databases and make sure it hasn't been done yet.

    Assuming it hasn't and you are really serious about this:

    Make a prototype. Ideas are worth nothing, you have to atleast be able to show potential investors what it will look and work like.

    Once you get that done, come back to us.
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