Cursing
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the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">Can we actually hold an actual discussion on this?</div>We have many posts about things such as word filters, fear of moderators (MonsE, Nem0, etc.), proper communcation (and coherent) in the NS Gen and I&S forums over the many years of even my incomplete observation of this board.
Yet I'm not sure we have <i>ever</i> had a DISCUSSION as a community about cursing in general that wasn't part of vitrolic flaming or flamebait that wasn't fated to get nuked by the mods shortly there after.
So. How about it?
There are many possible lines of thought we could take... Who does it more in daily life? What are your thoughts about it? What situations make you curse more? What words do you usually use? etc. Just keep it civil, aye?
So as far as for me myself. I'm know how to hold my tounge in proper settings, but I am certainly capable of cursing like a sailor. I tend to keep most of it to myself and just think it in my head, you know? Most of my cursing is not AT a person, but rather a circumstance. Like, "Hey, where the **** is everybody on this board these days?" I try to keep it respectful in general but I'm aligned to agree with cursing as a vocal expression when an exclaimation point or the sarcasm just isn't potent enough alone. I find it's mostly contextual in determining what is socially acceptable and non-offensive when. But there there are the die-hard control freak types who say it's always inappropriate. Speaking of which reminds me of Monty Python's Analysis of the Word **** in the English language. Ever listened to that? I'd hope for a bunch of ######ing computer geek -- er intellectuals -- like myself you would have. If not you need to get some ######ing culture man! Yeah. Um. Well I'm clearly being a bit periphrastic her and likely to start being regarded as either drunk or insane if I keep going at this rate, of which I am neither for the record. So um, ######ing discuss already damn it!
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No seriously, actually discuss this time. You don't have to even be grammatically correct here, just be ######ing honest.
PS: I have to admit this is good post this after a 12-hr work day before I go driving in my car. Thanks NS you made my day yet again. Woot.
Yet I'm not sure we have <i>ever</i> had a DISCUSSION as a community about cursing in general that wasn't part of vitrolic flaming or flamebait that wasn't fated to get nuked by the mods shortly there after.
So. How about it?
There are many possible lines of thought we could take... Who does it more in daily life? What are your thoughts about it? What situations make you curse more? What words do you usually use? etc. Just keep it civil, aye?
So as far as for me myself. I'm know how to hold my tounge in proper settings, but I am certainly capable of cursing like a sailor. I tend to keep most of it to myself and just think it in my head, you know? Most of my cursing is not AT a person, but rather a circumstance. Like, "Hey, where the **** is everybody on this board these days?" I try to keep it respectful in general but I'm aligned to agree with cursing as a vocal expression when an exclaimation point or the sarcasm just isn't potent enough alone. I find it's mostly contextual in determining what is socially acceptable and non-offensive when. But there there are the die-hard control freak types who say it's always inappropriate. Speaking of which reminds me of Monty Python's Analysis of the Word **** in the English language. Ever listened to that? I'd hope for a bunch of ######ing computer geek -- er intellectuals -- like myself you would have. If not you need to get some ######ing culture man! Yeah. Um. Well I'm clearly being a bit periphrastic her and likely to start being regarded as either drunk or insane if I keep going at this rate, of which I am neither for the record. So um, ######ing discuss already damn it!
<_<
>_>
No seriously, actually discuss this time. You don't have to even be grammatically correct here, just be ######ing honest.
PS: I have to admit this is good post this after a 12-hr work day before I go driving in my car. Thanks NS you made my day yet again. Woot.
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it's english right?
Its a good way of getting rid of anger and such imo.
it's english right?
Its a good way of getting rid of anger and such imo.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Insults are just words, as much as words are just letters and a forum posts is just pixels.
It's not important how an insult is performed or what it is made of. The important thing is what effect does an insult have on others.
In my culture we shake hands to greet strangers and even friends. But I also know people who greet others with a friendly hug, something which is too close for me. I am also pretty sure that cultures where you don't touch strangers to greet them do exists as well.
As for insults: In Germany we form a circle with thumb and index finger to signal "everything ok" in Italy the same gesture stands for ######.
How do you react when a half Benedict, german father, italian mother performs that gesture?
<b>Is it appropriate to act like you had been insulted although the person insulting you might not have intend to do so?</b>
The problem I see with insults in general is that you can ban them, but it will only lead to new insults being born cause somehow humanity demands an easy way to demean others in order for the insulting individual to feel better. Also remember that insults that are based on the same principal might not work in different times. There are great latin scriptures with a few interesting insults, but I always enjoyed "Son of a Slug" the most. Now, if you call someone "Hundesohn" which means "son of a dog" over here they will feel insulted. Call them "Sohn einer Schnecke" (son of a slug) and you will earn irritated looks most of the time. Even better: Call their parents animals and they feel insulted again. So although a slug is an animal, calling someones parents animals is worse than calling someone the son of a slug, because <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
You lying ##########er! I bet you curse like a sailor! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /> (heh jk, I don't really know for sure. --though I doubt your claimed innocence)
<!--quoteo(post=0:date=:name=Faskalia)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Faskalia)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is it appropriate to act like you had been insulted although the person insulting you might not have intend to do so?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good question, though it is kind of unfairly weighted because it depends on context. Faking being insulted is a no, but if you are insulted you should be able to speak openly and not hostile. I think most people are reasonable enough they'll apologize for stepping on your ego inadvetently, though there are the rare ######ed up ones who are just rude regardless (though not without some reason in their mind).
Most east asian cultures, I believe.
Yah, sure.
Only problem is that most people don't know it has nothing to do with ######, and thus take offense, and thus people will think you are a twit <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
Words only have as much power as we give them. And depending on your culture, the words vary. We can also forcibly change the value of words if we want to. Look at the queer community, right there is an example of taking a word that has intrinsic negative value (queer, odd, not right) that has been applied to your self and adopted it as your word and deemed that it is NOT offensive.
All in all, my personal stance on swearing is the old childhood rhyme:
Sticks And Stone May Break My Bones, But Words Bill Never Hurt Me.
That being said, I don't swear in polite company for fear of society's reprisal on me for breaking its rules.