UBISOFT + STEAM = OMG
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Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
<div class="IPBDescription">This Line Cannot Hold the Superlatives I Feel Inside</div><a href="http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?publisher=ubisoft&cc=US" target="_blank">WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW</a>! Is there anything to stop Steam from devouring our Earth whole? Yea, I say unto ye that there is not. For there is nothing in this world or the next that can challenge the power of Valve's digital distribution model. I decree that the next step is Windows being sold over Steam, then Linux for free, then OSX, then brain software, then the very essence of life itself will be pumped into the sockets at the base of our skull through Steam's proprietary content delivery system, at which point it will be the only welcome respite from the rule of our half monkey half robot hybrid overlords.
Ubisoft! Steam! Steam and Ubisoft! I mean jeez. Holy CRAP.
edit: I mean More Ubisoft, of course. If I'm not wrong (I often am) this means their entire catalog is coming, instead of just a bunch of little bits. I'm talking Rainbow 6, Heroes of Might and Magic, Ghost Recon, Brothers in Arms...
Ubisoft! Steam! Steam and Ubisoft! I mean jeez. Holy CRAP.
edit: I mean More Ubisoft, of course. If I'm not wrong (I often am) this means their entire catalog is coming, instead of just a bunch of little bits. I'm talking Rainbow 6, Heroes of Might and Magic, Ghost Recon, Brothers in Arms...
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Ubisoft! Steam! Steam and Ubisoft! I mean jeez. Holy CRAP.
edit: I mean More Ubisoft, of course. If I'm not wrong (I often am) this means their entire catalog is coming, instead of just a bunch of little bits. I'm talking Rainbow 6, Heroes of Might and Magic, Ghost Recon, Brothers in Arms...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I'm UP for that.
Steam forum go!
But you don't buy modern games on Steam- it's ridiculously expensive.
IMO, Steam is all about digging up not-so-old-but-forgotten classics like Hitman 2 and The Longest Journey.
But you don't buy modern games on Steam- it's ridiculously expensive.
IMO, Steam is all about digging up not-so-old-but-forgotten classics like Hitman 2 and The Longest Journey.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree that it is great to buy older games for cheap on steam, but why is buying a new game expensive on steam? It generally starts out at the same prices as at a brick and mortar. I know that there have been cases of the prices dropping in brick and mortars before they drop in steam, but that doesn't say why you shouldn't buy new releases from steam....
Probably some archaic rule making the distribution price fixed. Works out nice for Valve, the publisher, and the developer if they take % of revenue though so I doubt it will change. At least until Steam gains market share(it happens, iTunes is now the #1 music distributer) and they think they can destroy the competition by offering new releases at 10 bucks cheaper and rake in the dough while everyone else squirms. <i>That's</i> when Gabe will be sitting on huge piles of money smoking a cigar and laughing maniacally.
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However, it is a long time in coming before Steam has enough market share to be able to undercut the MSRP. My question still stands as to why sherpa thinks buying from steam is more expensive...
As a rule of thumb, the Steam price is the same as retail price in the UK... but you have to add 17.5% VAT to the Steam price.
For example, Assasins Creed is advertised on Steam for $50; the final price on Steam would be ~ £30 where as I could get it from play.com for £25.
If I only had Photoshop CS loaded on this computer...
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I say we repeatedly email Gabe and ask him to pose for this picture.
Currently, they hold the power. 60% or more of the market is with them(PROBABLY MORE), and if they lowered the price over the internet version, making it obvious to consumers to get that version- the publisher loses rights to have *any* of their games- past games included- on store shelves, thusly killing profits for a decent while.
So even if the publishers wanted to, they don't necessarily have the power.
Currently, they hold the power. 60% or more of the market is with them(PROBABLY MORE), and if they lowered the price over the internet version, making it obvious to consumers to get that version- the publisher loses rights to have *any* of their games- past games included- on store shelves, thusly killing profits for a decent while.
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well, yes, that is the entire point (though you worded it kinda strangely at a few points).
The publisher sets a MSRP. Depending on contract, retailers may or may not be allowed to go under it, and often there are restrictions (ex, when a company like amazon cuts prices they have to hide the price behind a java pop up). The brick and mortars really don't make MUCH of a markup on video games (they make their killings in used games, magazines, strategy guides, etc), it isn't as bad as console sales, but it isn't amazing. Now, Steam COULD probably get away with lowering the price and still make a good profit, however b/c the manufacturer does not want to tick off the brick and mortars, they force Steam to keep the same price.
IF Steam manages to dominate the market, they could conceivably set the price, but this isn't going to happen for a long time <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
The publisher sets a MSRP. Depending on contract, retailers may or may not be allowed to go under it, and often there are restrictions (ex, when a company like amazon cuts prices they have to hide the price behind a java pop up). The brick and mortars really don't make MUCH of a markup on video games (they make their killings in used games, magazines, strategy guides, etc), it isn't as bad as console sales, but it isn't amazing. Now, Steam COULD probably get away with lowering the price and still make a good profit, however b/c the manufacturer does not want to tick off the brick and mortars, they force Steam to keep the same price.
IF Steam manages to dominate the market, they could conceivably set the price, but this isn't going to happen for a long time <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't think you're getting me.
Real World stores could tell publishers to ###### off if they allowed lower prices on Digital Content.
This could hurt sales bigtime.
Etc.
*Let's off a hard sigh at Valve*
" You need to step off the Jump to Conclusions mat." .. I don't think there is any need for you to start insulting anyone.
Yeah.
"Okay, you can't buy this game from us. But if you JUST SO HAPPEN to receive it as a gift, that's perfectly fine. It's not like you're buying it from us."
I mean, if we're down to that kind of shenanigans, fine. Let's say that I JUST SO HAPPEN to give a gift of the exact amount that the game costs to Steam and then Steam JUST SO HAPPENS to give me the game as a gift. I'm totally not buying it or anything, me and Steam are just giving each other gifts because we like each other so much.
Nobody wants to "keep Steam barren of games." I just want a system that makes sense. Y'know, concrete, understandable, <i>consistent</i> rules. Consistency, man! Consistency!
Now, I agree that this is most definitely Ubisoft's mandate, not Valve's. The question is, is this whole gifting thing an oversight that Ubisoft will see as undesirable and request to be terminated, or is it actually per their request? Because the latter sounds completely retarded.