Waht about some new Weapon design?

Nasdero

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/asrifle.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::asrifle::" border="0" alt="asrifle.gif" />

Well i love ns1 (most often marine cuz to slow for alien i think ^^ )

but i dont really like the weapon design, not all of it but some. They are detailed for hl1 and so on but
for example who the hell would in real life use a rifle (lmg) with the clip on the side <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />? well you cant tell me that
realoding is faster with this, no but its very unusefull cuz you can easyly get stuck with your clip looking
out 3 or 4 inch out of the side. So if you want a modern nearly futuristic design you should look at the
bullpop design for firearms with the clip behind the grip like just for example this one on halo

<img src="http://www.freewebs.com/halo2dictator2/battlerifle.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

or this one on a styer aug

<img src="http://www.planetairsoft.net/archives/Pictures/05-2006-NEWS/steyraug-a3.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

for another example why should anyone produce a waepon (hmg) that is white ?? or clode to it ? most
weapons are dark maybe to for reasons of camoflage or what ever but white ?

i just want to hear what you think about this and how could you imagine weapons to look like ?

greez nasdero



edit:
this is an example of what the hmg could look like its just an example i took the Stoner LMG from the royal army and modified it to look a bit more "scifi" it hasnt to be like this but at least its darker and looks still threatening

<img src="http://i35.tinypic.com/28jgm52.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

aNytiMe

Remove the pistol grip flashlight and scope from the 2nd picture and you have yourself an LMG design.

ryknow69

i agree, remove those and BLAM, a new LMG, maybe alter it abit to look more TSA like.

Nasdero

so you mean its this way :

<img src="http://i38.tinypic.com/262ab0g.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />??

and what du you think of the hmg ??

aNytiMe

The HMG needs to lose a couple of barrels.

ryknow69

yea, 3 is alittle too heavy for a normal soldier, drop it to 2 barrels, 1 on the other

oh, thats good, but it needs A:Something to show it isn't the Styer Aug and B:More TSA like.

Nasdero

ok im on it , ill change the hmg to be not tooo heavy and ill try to find some usefull steyer aug model to do some changes with the jpg i cant do what u want it to be ^^


here wo go :

<img src="http://i33.tinypic.com/353e7g1.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

<img src="http://i34.tinypic.com/219nwuo.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

Nasdero

ok ive done it a model of a moddet steyer aug please give me some tipos how to let it look some more scifi or tsa like

so this could be the new standart rifle for marines (LMG):


<img src="http://i36.tinypic.com/10dsldj.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />


and a bit extendet version that feels more accurate

<img src="http://i37.tinypic.com/o9g0uc.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />


it is already low poly gameable cuz i took an css custom model to do some changes

ryknow69

handle too close to ammo, may cause reloading prob's.
hmm, i know! an ammo counter

Nasdero

SO this is my presentation of the (i call it) XM-43 Standart Assault Rifle for the TSA <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tsa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::tsa::" border="0" alt="tsa.gif" /> Marine

Clip Size : 50

Recoil: As the old one

Accuacy: As the old one

Ammo: 6,54mm full metal jacket TSA standart ammo

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/asrifle.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::asrifle::" border="0" alt="asrifle.gif" />

<img src="http://i34.tinypic.com/24mhjk6.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

ozbirdboy

Dammit for some reason all my post's are stuffing up (Gives errors when i try and post). How about some iron sights on that last model?

aNytiMe

That is win.

Caliber should be 5.56x45mm for standardization. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

ryknow69

did any 1 notice it looks like a silenced pistol if u cut some stuff off, like the butte and the top sliver =D?

damn fine, but it needs something around the counter, something to show there's abit more electronics than a sliver of metal and plasma screening.

Nasdero

i got not so mouch time today to do those changes, so i let some space for more ideas does nobody else have an idea of what it could look like ?? what does the dev team think about this ? and what du you mean with a bit more plasma and eletric ?? should i add wires to the display ? i think those eletric stuff should be IN the waepon imagine its getting wet the marine got toastet by his own lmg ^^

best way is if you all post some picture u all find around the not to show how a LMG should look like size, shape, colorscheme or just post a picture of a rifle and sey "this little piece down there that looks good lets add it to the lmg" ^^


id like to hear your ideas you got so much in other topics but i cant imagine that i am the only one that has an idea of what a rifle should look like ^^ <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

aNytiMe

Don't add any more greebles to it, it is perfection. The less junk mass a gun has, the better it looks. The only things I could suggest would be to shorten the top accessory rail by a third and move up the ammo counter. Also, make the ammo counter look more like a part of the gun rather than some slapped on screen. An actual hand guard at the front could also help.

spellman23

shiny

Xerond

Isn't that LMG design really similar to the original GL design? I remember it, NSA took the model (once it was changed) and painted it black and used it as a custom LMG model.

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aNytiMe

<!--quoteo(post=1693390:date=Nov 13 2008, 08:29 PM:name=Xerond)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xerond @ Nov 13 2008, 08:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1693390"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Isn't that LMG design really similar to the original GL design? I remember it, NSA took the model (once it was changed) and painted it black and used it as a custom LMG model.

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The only thing the two have in common is the roundish shape and maybe a somewhat similar barrel.

ryknow69

uhhh, like any said, the ammo counter needs to look more like part of the gun. Look at Halo Assault rifle, that big dome around the ammo counter holds all the electronics, it needs abit of that, some hard cover.

Hand grip on front is needed, what, is it one handed =P

Nasdero

lol yea its one handed and the commander can upgrade it to dual wield ^^

that would be awsome ^^ ok ill try to fix it with the counter and the grip but not this weekend i got my girl here and she doesnt like computers and 3d stuff so much ^^

Hawkeye

<!--quoteo(post=1693432:date=Nov 14 2008, 04:15 AM:name=Nasdero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nasdero @ Nov 14 2008, 04:15 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1693432"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->lol yea its one handed and the commander can upgrade it to dual wield ^^

that would be awsome ^^ ok ill try to fix it with the counter and the grip but not this weekend i got my girl here and she doesnt like computers and 3d stuff so much ^^<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hide it! Quick! Throw a blanket over the pc before she sees!

If she asks tell her... um.. tell her it's a dead body! Yeah! -.^

Nasdero

that didnt work i tried it last time and she heard the cpu fan ^^

ryknow69

0_o push her aside! =P

aNytiMe

<!--quoteo(post=1693432:date=Nov 14 2008, 09:15 AM:name=Nasdero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nasdero @ Nov 14 2008, 09:15 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1693432"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->lol yea its one handed and the commander can upgrade it to dual wield ^^<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<img src="http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc15/Domining/Emots/rollbarf.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />

Hawkeye

<!--quoteo(post=1693442:date=Nov 14 2008, 06:27 AM:name=Nasdero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nasdero @ Nov 14 2008, 06:27 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1693442"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->that didnt work i tried it last time and she heard the cpu fan ^^<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah women and 3d games most times go about as well together as, well, two things which really really don't go well together.

There are exceptions of course, but if she's anything like my girlfriend, she'd say "eww gross" or "why is that dog eating that piece of metal?" Yeah.. *cough*

Yeah.. I keep my girlfriend away from my pc like the plague.

ryknow69

............ if she has the plague, then...YOU'RE INFECTED! *Seals Hawk in a freezer* Freeze the infected! Nas, you don't have liqued cooled computer!?

Yea, me also agree with Any

Nasdero

so alright after my girl has gone ive got some time to do the major fixes

here 2 pictures ive cuttet the extesion clip stuff at the top, the rifle now has a handgrip for the second hand at the front and ife implemented the counter "into" the weapon

now i want to hear you guys !! and i want to know what the devs are thinking about this or if ive done this for nothing ;-) ^^


pic 1

<img src="http://i33.tinypic.com/241ujyb.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

pic 2

<img src="http://i38.tinypic.com/28i9un4.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

gentleman this rifle is kill proofed ^^

Nasdero

and once again just u 4 the scoped version if anyone likes it more with some aimed zoom ^^ <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/asrifle.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::asrifle::" border="0" alt="asrifle.gif" />

<img src="http://i35.tinypic.com/103exbl.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />




<img src="http://i35.tinypic.com/2e0k2fc.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

aNytiMe

That's cool and all, but where are the front and rear ironsights?

ozbirdboy

That scope goes well with the design, im not sure if i like it more with or without the scope.

Nasdero

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well if you have the scope you dont need ironsight, the scope could if ingame usabel be some kind like the scope of the german G36 "Spiegelreflexvisier" i.e. "Mirrorreflective Visor" <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/asrifle.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::asrifle::" border="0" alt="asrifle.gif" />


<!--quoteo(post=1693608:date=Nov 17 2008, 04:08 AM:name=Kalopsia)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kalopsia @ Nov 17 2008, 04:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1693608"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That scope goes well with the design, im not sure if i like it more with or without the scope.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

well but thats the point you need to descide ^^ because there could just be 1 lmg