Jetpack And Gl

Fetters

<div class="IPBDescription">Stop whining!</div> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> When I play NS I usually play Marines (sometimes aliens when there are uneven teams). Each time I play on random servers. Random people. Random spelling. Random commanders. The only thing that ain't random is people yelling for Jet-Pack and GL. Not very many people, but each turn I play, there is ATLEAST one or two people who's yelling after Jet-Pack and GL!
Ok, they could whine (yes I say WHINE because that's what they do!) after Jet-Pack and GL when the game have lasted for some time and the marines have lots of resources. Sometimes even I do that, but only some time into the game when I KNOW we got lots or resources.
But the problem is that most of the whiners are whining one minute into the game! They stand in the base, do nothing productive, and whines, over and over again, after jet-packs and GL. It's so annoying! Try to atleast do something productive and kill some aliens or guard a node. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->

xioutlawix

Hehe, I know how that goes.
Last night I had the (mis)fortune of jumping into the commander's chair.
And there was this one n00b who just sat in base, and it was timed, every 30 seconds to the dot he'd type out something like "commander can I get a better weapon", or "commander I need a hmg", "commander I need a jetpack", "commander gimme a grenade launcher". I finally lost it.
Being the avid gamer I am, I immediately got on the mic, and responded with:

"STFU you god forsaken **obscenity**, if you don't get out there and do something FAWKING PRODUCTIVE SO HELP ME GOD I WILL DROP TURRETS ON YOU UNTIL YOU LEAVE THIS GAME YOU $H!+"

I think I lost it.

Mindmeldme

laughs...been there, done that. Don't feel to bad about that, if you don't go nuts at some point in the game with your team then things would be to easy. Just have to get used to sad players like that, they are everywhere. i always see a few about a minute into the game asking for Jetpacks, GL's, or HA or something that we are very...very...far away from getting.

Bridger

i seriously wish there was an admin_slap ability for commander...and an admin_slay ability every 2 minutes or so... (giving marines plenty of time to vote him out).

ViPr

i joined a server and the commander refused to give anyone any equipment unless we followed his orders to take more resource nozzles and we had like around 600 resource points. anyway i insulted him and told him he sucked and then the other team members told me to shut up coz he was a good commander. a few minutes later we lost.

Ahnteis

It's because they're so l33t they want to go sit in the vent and spam things below. They have no interest in working as a team. I almost never give out jetpacks as a com and don't usually research them just to try to teach my marines some teamwork.

Mindmeldme

There is nothing more classic to get into a game...see the commander has a few hundred resource points that he somehow aquird...and see him do nothing. All my efforts to ask him to let me try after I wait 10 minutes to see how he is tend to fail and in no time we are being over run either because he went to the bathroom forever or because no one wants to boot him for some reason.

Once again...a commander is only as good as his men...and the Team is usually only as good as thier commander. God what I wouldn't give for a good clan of marines...

Bralkein

Oh fricking hell yeah, sometimes I think there should be an IQ test people should have to take to be allowed contact with electronic equipment... think of all the trouble it would save...

The worst thing, the absolute worst, is people asking for damn guns when the resources are like 2. The other day I saw someone asking for HMG and heavy armour when we had 8 resources, no advanced armour and no prototype lab or whatever it's called. This guy sat there for about 5 minutes whining for this stuff. Tje sad thing was, the admin was the commander, ne didn't kick this guy, but he permanently banned me for not following orders when he hadn't given me any. The conversation went like this:

Admin: Follow orders or I kick you
Me: What orders?
Admin: The ones I gave you
Me: I don't have any bloody orders!
*BOOT*

A trifle harsh methinks.

Wardancer

yea i know what you are talking about i hate , "1337" n00b marines asking for stuff, even worse when they ask for a jetpack 1 min in the game or if the team is running low on resources, they shoulkd remember that they are privates and the commander is jsut that the COMMANDER, he runs the show, if he needs and hmg to support a positionhe goes and build an hmg marine, aka dropping an hmg and giving him an order to move and support,


people NEED to understand that the commander doesnt give a **obscenity** about how much kille you think you can get by sitting and stupid vent and spamming grenades, just tell him that you need bakup or something and he runs the show,

but this also go for commanders they need to tell the team what they are doing, like "upgrading armory for better wepons" or "upgrading to HA", so the team knows whatis avaible (spelling??)

yea give the commander a slap ability like, 10-30 damage, he could always drop an healing afterwards to fic him up but ayways it would probably help the comm to get people to listen and since we have the vote kick commander the stupid slapping comm, if he decides to be a moron, shouldnt be a problem

BlackWolf

I'll admit, I'm one of those people that request a Jetpack (and a HMG, not GL---lot safer for my lightness), as well as mines. Of course, I'll wait till after we've had a prototype thing built for awhile, and the commander's had time to research, and we have the resources to handle the request.
Sometimes, I'll forego the mines and ask for a welder...it all depends on the situation I know I'm heading into....Securing a vent, or closing it entirely. I strike off on my own, hunting the vents, cleaning out the infestations of skulks plotting to turn into lerks or fades when they reach their campsite. I scout out locations, look for concentrations of aliens..and then withdraw, telling the team what I've found. I dont expect the commander to babysit-If I'm in a desperate situation, I'll make a request, but otherwise, I'd much rather if he just listened to my occasional scouting report, and kept an eye on the squad tearing things up.
Unfortunately, lamers such as the jetpack/GL beggars who run off to die every few seconds, give scouts like myself a bad name.
Even more dissapointing, I've seen so many commanders stop researching jetpacks, for this reason. Its gotten so bad, sometimes, such as a game last night, our inability to secure one single vent cost us the entire game. with a jetpack and a welder, I could have fixed our problem so that we'd not have to worry about the aliens bilebombing us from above, where we cant hit them well. I believe that game was ruined anyway, simply because of bad commanding all around, but the difference a single jetpack could have made in that game is alarming.

So thusly, my point? The jetpack is a double-edged sword. With it, you have a marine with increased manuverability, speed, and SHOA Ability. (<b>S</b>ave <b>H</b>is <b>O</b>wn <b>A</b>** Ability) On the other hand, it calls for idiots and spammers, and morons who strike off on their own and get themselves killed cause they dont know what they're doing, or annoy the commander by begging for a tower/factory/ammo/gun/whatever about half a map away from base. And once they get whatever, they and it dies in two seconds.

Its a tool not to be abandoned, but does need to be used sparingly.

R7X3

<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> drives me insane when marines wont work together or the commander isnt competent enough to do much more than make "pretty pictures" with the turrets he drops, I NEVER command, But I also never beg for things (well except when a secondary base needs more turrets ect because everyone else is wandering the hell around the map solo) something else that pisses me off? commanders who never frigging use waypoints, Excuse me if I dont know where "that node near the place"(yes a commander said that) is, just give me a blasted waypoint you imbecile!

<!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> also as the aliens(not so bad for them really) when some dimwit with a gorge decides to plant JUST defense towers on the stairs or something, completely blocking off an area for our fades and Onos, that drives me up a friggin wall.

Lap

Same thing happened to me. 1 minute into the game this **obscenity** is whining. So he sits there for about 15 minutes whining. We are winning and have tons of resources now but out of spite I decide not to give him a weapon. He also refused to join the other team even though it was lik 6 to 3. and he was the last to join and also the least productive. Anyway he got mad and started whining and destroying our own base. Had to go out of my way to add him to the ban list. sigh

MutantMFM

It amazes me how some people can ask for heavy armor and hmg or a grenadlaucher and a jetpack a second after the game begins. I just wish some people would stfu and play the game instead of whinning for a new gun and armor.

mwells

I was playing in a game with a guy last night who repeatedly spammed the team chat with his nonsense, mostly consisting of "OMFG WE NEED MORE PORTALS NOW GET ON IT U LAMEASS COMMANDER", 5 times a second.

Then, once we got a prototype lab, the guy changes his spamming tactic to "I NEED A BIG GUN U WORTHLESS COMMANDER" and spams that until the admin came in and banned his **obscenity**.

Why are people so ridiculous about it? It's not like NS is some kind of hand-out party, you gotta work for this stuff, rather than sitting around knifing all of the turrets until you get your way.