Frozen Synapse

ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
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<div class="IPBDescription">Turn-based tactical combat (ish)</div><a href="http://www.frozensynapse.com/" target="_blank">http://www.frozensynapse.com/</a>

Essentially you control a small squad of dudes. You queue up their commands while your opponent is doing the same. The game unpauses for about two seconds of action then pauses again to let you allocate new commands. You can also enter theoretical commands to your opponents pieces and see how the turn would end if your assumptions are correct.

There's also some malarky about bidding fakebux that you'll keep control of sections of the map and, if you're right, you get a boost to your score at the end. It can upload matches straight to youtube, too.

Here is video:

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Would anyone be interested in playing this with me?

--Scythe--
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  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    The gameplay and features look interesting, the graphics not so much.
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  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    I'm interested. though, I need to see the video again with sound, and see something about the other game they've made before I decide what version to get.

    And contrary to Zaggy, I like the artstyle - it reminds me of Uplink. And also somewhat of Subversion ('The Next Game' from Introversion). Which also needs <a href="http://www.introversion.co.uk/subversion/" target="_blank">pimpage</a>. I love that kind of electronic Tron look.

    I'm not sure what you have in mind, but I'll probably buy access by myself, and give the key to a friend of mine. (Just saying this in case you were thinking of splitting the game/beta-key cost with someone from the forum).
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  • NossahNossah Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8234Members, Constellation
    edited April 2010
    I saw a video of this a while ago, and it looked quite cool. If it is not too expensive I'll have at it with you Scythe.
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  • BacillusBacillus Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58241Members
    I'm interested. Probably going to wait some comments/reviews first though.

    I love those simultaneous-turn-based games, I just hope this has enough of depth to be interesting for longer than a few dozen games. Any idea if the release is going to have any kind of matchmaking?
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  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    If only I had time to play more games.... *sigh*
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    It looks very cool, kind of reminds me of Toribash which I love, and I was all about buying it until I realized you cannot buy less than 2 copies. $26 USD for 2 copies of a game that might be trash is a little much.
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  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    Looks a bit like the Close Combat series*, but simplified and much shorter games (and it's turn-based WEGO as opposed to setup phase then realtime). I think I'm gonna pick it up on payday based on what I've seen.




    * If you like the look of this I'd highly recommend trying to find an old copy since Cross of Iron (the CC3 remake) is priced crazy high for what is essentially a port. But playing the campaign from end to end vs. a friend could be one of the best multiplayer experiences you'll ever have, so it's possibly £25 well spent.
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  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    edited April 2010
    Just bought it and my initial verdict is: hold off for a while.

    I'm not sure if it's the firewalls at work but after getting admin permissions to install (standard practise where I work) it just idled for 20 mins trying to connect to the master server and didn't even have a timeout or error message. This happened twice when I tried within 2 hours.

    Now, this might be because it needs further admin permissions to go online (happens with all first installation of Steam games at work) and isn't requesting them in the correct way, but until I can get online to play this against human players I can't really recommend it. I'll try it at home and on another day at work to see if I have better luck.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769262:date=Apr 30 2010, 07:05 AM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Crispy @ Apr 30 2010, 07:05 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769262"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just bought it and my initial verdict is: hold off for a while.

    I'm not sure if it's the firewalls at work but after getting admin permissions to install (standard practise where I work) it just idled for 20 mins trying to connect to the master server and didn't even have a timeout or error message. This happened twice when I tried within 2 hours.

    Now, this might be because it needs further admin permissions to go online (happens with all first installation of Steam games at work) and isn't requesting them in the correct way, but until I can get online to play this against human players I can't really recommend it. I'll try it at home and on another day at work to see if I have better luck.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So really the "hold of for a while" is only a verdict for the small number of people who are going to have the same problem as you, which may be limited to people who work at the same company as you.
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  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    Bought it a few days ago. Only had a chance to play through the tutorial so far. But seems fun.
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  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1769270:date=Apr 30 2010, 01:48 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TychoCelchuuu @ Apr 30 2010, 01:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769270"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So really the "hold of for a while" is only a verdict for the small number of people who are going to have the same problem as you, which may be limited to people who work at the same company as you.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->By 'while' I mean until I can try it from home (could be tonight) and post in this thread to say it's not a total washout.
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  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    Yup. I can play it from home. You choose what game mode you want to play and you get automatched with someone within a matter of seconds (don't think it's doing it by any kind of skill ranking system, but tbh I only care about getting a game asap). Games take about 5-15 minutes. When you win you get points for the outcome, so I'm guessing there either is or is planned some sort of leaderboard, but I couldn't see it on a very quick browse this morning before work.
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  • tjosantjosan Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16374Members, Constellation
    Yeah it really does look somewhat like the close combat series. Speaking of which, anyone up for playing close combat? CC Invasion Normandy perhaps.
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
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    <!--quoteo(post=1769378:date=May 1 2010, 04:19 AM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Crispy @ May 1 2010, 04:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769378"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yup. I can play it from home. You choose what game mode you want to play and you get automatched with someone within a matter of seconds (don't think it's doing it by any kind of skill ranking system, but tbh I only care about getting a game asap). Games take about 5-15 minutes. When you win you get points for the outcome, so I'm guessing there either is or is planned some sort of leaderboard, but I couldn't see it on a very quick browse this morning before work.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    How's the gameplay? Skill based? How much luck is involved? Is there enough room to try to become decent (like Toribash, for example) or is it just very simple positioning of units and clicking for their shots? Is there any strategy/tactics aside from the obvious "have shotgun dudes in front" type stuff?
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  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    <!--quoteo(post=1769404:date=May 2 2010, 12:02 AM:name=SentrySteve)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SentrySteve @ May 2 2010, 12:02 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769404"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How's the gameplay? Skill based? How much luck is involved? Is there enough room to try to become decent (like Toribash, for example) or is it just very simple positioning of units and clicking for their shots? Is there any strategy/tactics aside from the obvious "have shotgun dudes in front" type stuff?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm sure I read something on RPS along the lines of "There's no luck, weapons always do damage, and it's almost always fatal". I think the only luck element would come from guessing what your opponent is about to do.

    --Scythe--
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  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    edited May 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1769404:date=May 1 2010, 02:02 PM:name=SentrySteve)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SentrySteve @ May 1 2010, 02:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769404"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How's the gameplay? Skill based? How much luck is involved? Is there enough room to try to become decent (like Toribash, for example) or is it just very simple positioning of units and clicking for their shots? Is there any strategy/tactics aside from the obvious "have shotgun dudes in front" type stuff?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->From what I can see there's not much 'luck' involved. Different classes perform better in different roles. I'm not entirely convinced that there's enough scope there for it not to boil down to whoever gets the first kill going on to win in a high skill contest, nor that the classes are sufficiently pro/con balanced for there to be that many different 'desirable' team class configurations. There's definitely enough scope for you to become decent but I'm not sure how much two equally-skilled players could outplay eachother using the same starting blocks (it seems it would be down to mistakes more than down to play style). But that's just my initial impressions after not a great many games.

    P.S. Still getting the same no-timout 'connecting to Grand Server' message at work. Seems like it's not been setup to give up and give an error message when it hits a stumbling block. I was mostly looking forward to playing this at lunchtimes with co-workers, so this is a bit annoying.
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  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    edited May 2010
    "WELLHUNG"

    Code for 20% off for the next 20 hours or so. I went for it.

    --Scythe--

    P.S. You enter the code at the final stage of the paypal checkout. I think you can also pay with a CC, through paypal.
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  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    edited May 2010
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    My second game. It's not quite 100% polished, but it's satisfying when your plans go off without a hitch. Definitely got potential.

    --Scythe--
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  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    I gave my free code to Zaggy, we played a couple games:

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    Keep an eye out for Zaggy's Sam Fischer, who snuck the entire length of the map, perfectly evading my machinegunner and sniper, and shot my rocket dude in the side of the head. Cold.
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    --Scythe--
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