Server Side Release Date?

kr0nikwisd0mkr0nikwisd0m Join Date: 2007-03-11 Member: 60325Members, Constellation
edited July 2010 in NS2 General Discussion
Soo, we have a date now.. YEAH!! What about server side release? On the same day? Before? Throw me some leafy green here!!
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  • MetroMetro Join Date: 2007-09-15 Member: 62316Members
    Not so sure we'll get Dedicated for Alpha. But I wouldn't know for sure.
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  • WarmongerWarmonger Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13126Members, Constellation
    Metro: It would be kind of hard to play the Alpha without dedicated servers. I doubt the dev team have the resources (ie. $$$) to host enough servers themselves, nor would they want the headache of administrating the servers while trying to develop the game.

    The only other way would be to have everyone using Hamachi as we did with the engine test, but that is a "jury rigged" solution. I'm confident the devs plan on releasing a dedicated server and just forgot to mention it.
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  • kr0nikwisd0mkr0nikwisd0m Join Date: 2007-03-11 Member: 60325Members, Constellation
    Playing alpha on Hamachi, ouch.. Lets hope they release dedicated server info. Devs?!?
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  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    I would imagine that listen servers will be available. Dedicated servers perhaps not. Remember this is an ALPHA
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  • neilm86neilm86 Join Date: 2009-04-16 Member: 67198Members
    An answer to this would be appreciated so i can start sourcing which server provider to use.

    Come on devs whats gonna happen with server side? :D:D
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    <!--quoteo(post=1778512:date=Jul 13 2010, 09:41 PM:name=KungFuDiscoMonkey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Jul 13 2010, 09:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1778512"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I would imagine that listen servers will be available. Dedicated servers perhaps not. Remember this is an ALPHA<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I can't say for sure, but I would expect this to be the case with the first alpha release.
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  • StarClawsStarClaws Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9974Members
    Please take into account and consider how many servers you may need with however many Alpha testers total you have listed :)

    1 server just won't cut it heh
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  • MagrathMagrath Join Date: 2003-06-27 Member: 17739Members
    G4B2S would like to know :P
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  • SecuritionSecurition Join Date: 2010-07-14 Member: 72367Members
    187combat would also like to know as soon as possible.

    :)
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  • TagertsweTagertswe Join Date: 2010-03-04 Member: 70825Members
    L2P gaming community is also eagerly wondering :)
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  • GaidinTSGaidinTS Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19319Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    A linux dedicated server would be excellent as well.
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  • slayer.faithslayer.faith Join Date: 2007-12-10 Member: 63127Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Im sure i could lean on our clan to pop up a dedicated server down in australia. ;-)
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  • GotrxGotrx Join Date: 2003-07-06 Member: 17976Members, Constellation
    Hunters-group.eu and NSTalent.org are also waiting for some information about linux server files.
    Read to host.
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  • SN.WolfSN.Wolf Join Date: 2010-03-29 Member: 71115Members
    Super Nova Team will gladly host several dedicated servers when they become available but most likely have a listen server up for the testing.
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  • kr0nikwisd0mkr0nikwisd0m Join Date: 2007-03-11 Member: 60325Members, Constellation
    Dev can we get an update? Tweeeeeeeeet something naught for us..
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  • TagertsweTagertswe Join Date: 2010-03-04 Member: 70825Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1778979:date=Jul 15 2010, 04:50 AM:name=slayer.faith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (slayer.faith @ Jul 15 2010, 04:50 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1778979"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Im sure i could lean on our clan to pop up a dedicated server down in australia. ;-)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah was wondering about the linux version as well :)
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  • w0dk4w0dk4 Join Date: 2008-04-22 Member: 64129Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Ya, please give us a note wether there'll be dedicated servers in the alpha.
    If there won't, I gotta prepare something ;)
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  • InkInk Join Date: 2009-08-15 Member: 68499Members
    [NC] is also curious and are ready to host!
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  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    <a href="http://twitter.com/NS2/status/18614488877" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/NS2/status/18614488877</a>
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Regarding the NS2 dedicated server (win32) - that should ship with our alpha as well. Linux will come later. YES, you can run mods! :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • ObraxisObraxis Subnautica Animator & Generalist, NS2 Person Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30071Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, WC 2013 - Supporter, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    Oh well. That's a number of us old NS communities with Linux servers out of the alpha.
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  • w0dk4w0dk4 Join Date: 2008-04-22 Member: 64129Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Awesome! Linux can wait ;)
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  • SlycasterSlycaster Limited Edition Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 24Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited July 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1779163:date=Jul 15 2010, 11:51 AM:name=Obraxis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Obraxis @ Jul 15 2010, 11:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779163"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oh well. That's a number of us old NS communities with Linux servers out of the alpha.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Whoever said you can't join another server that's hosted? Find some other alpha server you and your community appreciate.
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  • SN.WolfSN.Wolf Join Date: 2010-03-29 Member: 71115Members
    Awesome news for us with win32 boxes!!! Sorry linux guys, It's a good system but somehow always gets put on the back burner thus is why i went to a win32 box.

    Now the question is......
    Mods......???
    plugins....???

    Naked vanilla servers are good but i prefer my servers to have a bit of muscle in the code.
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  • SlycasterSlycaster Limited Edition Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 24Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1779207:date=Jul 15 2010, 01:50 PM:name=SN.Wolf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SN.Wolf @ Jul 15 2010, 01:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779207"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Awesome news for us with win32 boxes!!! Sorry linux guys, It's a good system but somehow always gets put on the back burner thus is why i went to a win32 box.

    Now the question is......
    Mods......???
    plugins....???

    Naked vanilla servers are good but i prefer my servers to have a bit of muscle in the code.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Confirmed mod support, so the LUA coding junkies will be whipping up admin mods and all the fun stuff very shortly I assume.
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    I hope we get some dice mods so we can have drunken gorges and timebombs all over again.
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  • SN.WolfSN.Wolf Join Date: 2010-03-29 Member: 71115Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779212:date=Jul 15 2010, 11:55 AM:name=IeptBarakat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IeptBarakat @ Jul 15 2010, 11:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779212"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I hope we get some dice mods so we can have drunken gorges and timebombs all over again.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    I agree, 2 of my bot servers (alein only and marine only) run RTD along side with the bot RTD.....awsome when hive campers have a time bomb bot spawn in.....good times!
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  • ZervunZervun Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9658Members
    edited July 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1779163:date=Jul 15 2010, 11:51 AM:name=Obraxis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Obraxis @ Jul 15 2010, 11:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779163"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oh well. That's a number of us old NS communities with Linux servers out of the alpha.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yup seriously disappointing - I've got a newer dual xeon supermicro with 16 cores and goobles of ram running CentOS in a datacenter with a solid community that wants this and I have nearly unlimited bandwidth.

    Do people even run 32 bit windows servers anymore except for old legacy equipment?

    I guess I'm just a bit surprised since most servers from what I saw in NS1 ran on linux. The client is understandable, the server getting released on an antiquated OS is a surprise.

    I'm very excited for it (I pre ordered SE long ago), and very happy that it's making great progress, I am just very surprised with this.
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  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    Since they're focusing on the game itself, it is not strange that they have not had time to focus on the Linux server as much.
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  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1779268:date=Jul 15 2010, 08:16 PM:name=Zervun)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zervun @ Jul 15 2010, 08:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779268"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yup seriously disappointing - I've got a newer dual xeon supermicro with 16 cores and goobles of ram running CentOS in a datacenter with a solid community that wants this and I have nearly unlimited bandwidth.

    Do people even run 32 bit windows servers anymore except for old legacy equipment?

    I guess I'm just a bit surprised since most servers from what I saw in NS1 ran on linux. The client is understandable, the server getting released on an antiquated OS is a surprise.

    I'm very excited for it (I pre ordered SE long ago), and very happy that it's making great progress, I am just very surprised with this.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You'd be surprised. Specifically to NS, Linux ded.server was always a little 'clunky' behind the Win32 one, including a lot of weird performance issues in the past the MS one didn't have. The NS team simply didn't have the resource to go chasing it, I suspect. And nowadays, I see an awful lot of games with no Linux dedicated support at all.

    The issue is that gamers are (small, but vocal minority aside) mostly on Windows platforms. Once your game is built, it's logical and simple to extrude that to a dedicated server (as you had to write a lot of it for your Listen server anyway). Linux means a whole other development cycle, and budgets just don't allow for it.

    I'd expect the Linux version to turn up, but I wouldn't be surprised if you always have a little delay and some issues to live with. I could be proved wrong of course...
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  • w0dk4w0dk4 Join Date: 2008-04-22 Member: 64129Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Windows Server 2008 is not antiquated.
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