Bare Minimum Map

remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
edited August 2010 in Mapping
What are the minimum entities I need in my map so that NS2 can load it without crashing, and then I will spawn in a ready room and be able to pick my team. (Just the basic requirements)


IRC people directed me to this: <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=110469" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....howtopic=110469</a>


Before I was missing the minimap_extents entity and have way too few spawn points. I think it should be able to work with less than 32/16 spawn points... but I probably need that minimap entity

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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    edited August 2010
    Eh... your map crashing shouldn't have anything to do with the entities, I think.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    edited August 2010
    I think it was because I had some other weird entities in there like the sentry...

    Anyways, I deleted all but 12 spawn points (4 in readyroom, 4 in alien spawn, 4 in marine spawn), added 2 team_infos, and 2 team_joins, and now it works fine.


    It actually seemed like having extra spawn points severely lagged up the game.
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    Thread hijack: Does the Commander_Camera Entity do anything?
  • MotherGooseMotherGoose Join Date: 2002-03-12 Member: 308Members, Constellation
    edited August 2010
    @Psyke; sorry mate can't help ya.
    @barlow; i thought the com cam was for placing static 'cinematic' cameras locking player view while the map loads/waiting to spawn and such.
  • SN.WolfSN.Wolf Join Date: 2010-03-29 Member: 71115Members
    Hmmm, Load screen? , That would be cool. I was thinking it might be a death camera but i suppose time will tell.

    Anywho , back to (sorta) on topic :

    Any tricks besides filtering to cut down on the editor lag. I am using it on an AMD 3800+ 2.4 with 3GB ram and a 9500GT 1GB vid and i get super laggy while placing or adjusting my lights.

    What i am asking here is, Is there a way to build sections (level Pieces) and import them all together in a single map near completion?
    Like prefab rooms?
  • TunisTunis Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73242Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1791053:date=Aug 3 2010, 06:23 PM:name=SN.Wolf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SN.Wolf @ Aug 3 2010, 06:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1791053"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What i am asking here is, Is there a way to build sections (level Pieces) and import them all together in a single map near completion?
    Like prefab rooms?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    you just create a room-by-file, and the end copy and paste into the file of your map.
    cons in order to copy and paste you must open two editor windows (1 per file).

    it can work on one piece at a time and therefore have less lag.

    hoping that it was your question.

    good mapping :)
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    I been trying to do this for a long time, its ill advisable. Its much better than it was before when it comes to copy+paste+move but you will still find textures positions and rotations still do fractional goofing. You will spend a long time raligning stuff.
  • SN.WolfSN.Wolf Join Date: 2010-03-29 Member: 71115Members
    I gave it a try last night and spent about 30 minute adjusting then decided it would be easier to buy a better PC.

    For the first time ever the editor crashed on me so it made the whole importation that much more painful for me. Possible crash was having 2 editor windows open at once, My little AMD Dual core choked up really bad before the editor went down.
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
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    SO, Anything better than my card is gud enought.

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  • SN.WolfSN.Wolf Join Date: 2010-03-29 Member: 71115Members
    Nice research, I was thinking along the lines of upgrading my blade server and using the Q6600 from that machine and move away from the AMD. Not that AMD is not good, it just lacks performance when i overclock as in lack of.
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