Jack Thompson returns triumphantly!

lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
Here's a fun game: See if you can guess his new target before clicking the link.

<a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2368824,00.asp" target="_blank">http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2368824,00.asp</a>

"I'm not representing anyone as a lawyer, as I am not a lawyer,"

*glee*

So, betcha thought you'd seen the last of him, didn't you? I sure did! Let's all gather 'round to gawk at yon populist madman!
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  • RetalesRetales Panigg cultist Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19180Members
    Oh, this is the real deal. He's definitely going to change the world this time! No more games == no more violence. What a paradise it will be.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    So it's ok to play as Nazi's but not ok to play as Taliban? Weird guy this...
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    I have a hard time thinking of more than one game (DoD) that would let you play as nazis.

    And of course if I had to be nitpicky, you played as the Wehrmacht in that one, most of which weren't members of the nazi party.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited September 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1798054:date=Sep 9 2010, 04:34 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Sep 9 2010, 04:34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1798054"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have a hard time thinking of more than one game (DoD) that would let you play as nazis.

    And of course if I had to be nitpicky, you played as the Wehrmacht in that one, most of which weren't members of the nazi party.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, pretty much. Even Company of Heroes has only one one unit that is actually a true Nazi, the officer and probably the Königstiger crew/commander (not sure about them though)


    The rest are just "der Wehrmacht, der Luftwaffe". But Thompson would probably call them all Nazi's <img src="http://members.home.nl/m.borgman/ns-forum/smileys/biggrin.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />


    On a side note, what is the German navy actually called? Just Deutsche marine or something, not a cool name like the others?
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriegsmarine" target="_blank">Kriegsmarine?</a>
  • FehaFeha Join Date: 2006-11-16 Member: 58633Members
    I think wolfenstein let you play as a nazi, or maybe it was just the axis (which iirc the nazis were a part of). I am quite sure bf2 let you play as the axis tho.

    But I dont get it, why would it be so disgusting to play as a taliban or a nazi? It would be way worse if we had to play as part of the army which has a real war on a fictional enemy, hence attacking countrys for their oil, saying they are terrorists. Oh wait we do in many games, and noone complain about that :O.
  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    edited September 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1798064:date=Sep 9 2010, 01:04 PM:name=Feha)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Feha @ Sep 9 2010, 01:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1798064"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I am quite sure bf2 let you play as the axis tho.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    BF2 was modern.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    America's Army lets you play as an American soldier who is clearly royally ###### up on some mind altering drug or something, because he sees the other team as terrorists. But they're not! Because when you play as the other side, your character sees the *other* team as terrorists!


    Why Thompson isn't battling against this clear promotion of dangerous, hallucinogenic drugs is beyond me.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Yeah and Mafia/GTA let's you play as a murderous gangstah... Heck even Mario kills all sorts of creatures!
  • PaniggPanigg Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58212Members
    Deutsche Luftwaffe, Deutsche Bundeswehr and Deutsche Marine it is.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    edited September 2010
    That's what it is now, yes. Well actually Bundeswehr covers the combined forces, the army part is called Heer.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    For the record, my guess was that he was going to be whining about Duke Nukem Forever. That would have been more entertaining.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    if only he'd change his name to Joke Thompson :x
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    Did video games murder his parents in crime alley or something?
  • Konohas Perverted HermitKonohas Perverted Hermit Join Date: 2008-09-26 Member: 65075Members
    Aye. I beat them to death with my Sega CD in front of him while laughing.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    You found a use for the Sega CD?!
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1798155:date=Sep 10 2010, 06:21 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Sep 10 2010, 06:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1798155"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You found a use for the Sega CD?!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well it's heavy enough (if all other things are attached to it)
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    The question is, Gen 1, 2 or 3 SegaCD? Mine (and the 32X, and the SMS adapter) are G1. <3 Shining Force CD. Hoping that Sega brings THAT series to Steam ASAP... even if I could forgive leaving out Shining in the Darkness due to lack of auto-map.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited September 2010
    Sega Dreamcast is close to the power of the Wii (a gamecube with more shiny bits)


    That was an awesome console, alas victim of extreme piracy...


    [edit]
    No idea why I posted this, but I felt it was a good counter to the utility called megadrive/genisis(1/2)-32X-SegaCD combo :P
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    My DreamCast is mostly reserved for ChuChuRocket and the original Crazy Taxi. Mostly as all the ports of both are shameful, comparatively. SA2 is pretty good just for the soundtrack, without all the crap additions and changes on the Gamecube version.
    The down side being that the DC has far less bludeoning potential than a full Tower o' Power.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    So about that Thompson guy...

    Here we have it <a href="http://www.gamespy.com/articles/112/1121508p1.html" target="_blank">straight from the horse's mouth.</a>

    I must say, I'm surprised. Sure, I can find stuff I disagree with in there (like his fears about de evil gub'nment), but I can find much more that sounds eerily sensible. Certainly an eye-opener.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1798888:date=Sep 17 2010, 10:18 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Sep 17 2010, 10:18 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1798888"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So about that Thompson guy...

    Here we have it <a href="http://www.gamespy.com/articles/112/1121508p1.html" target="_blank">straight from the horse's mouth.</a>

    I must say, I'm surprised. Sure, I can find stuff I disagree with in there (like his fears about de evil gub'nment), but I can find much more that sounds eerily sensible. Certainly an eye-opener.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    definitely an interesting interview. Of course, maybe he's just singing a slightly different tune since he knows the interview is for the gaming community, and since he has no legal power anymore, so he can't get by on fiery rhetoric like he used to...
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    In that article he seems to just be wanting to push an enforced ratings system. As in, if a game is rated for 15 year olds, it should be illegal to sell the game to anyone under 15 years old.

    That doesn't quite gel with other things he's done in the past, nor with his rhetoric ("murder simulator"? If that's what he actually believes, should they be sold to *anyone*?), so I really don't know how seriously to take that article.

    As a side note, in the UK games are (currently, at least, I think they're being switched over to PEGI only) rated by the BBFC, and BBFC ratings *are* enforceable in the stores (retailers shouldn't sell an 18 game/movie to someone under 18), and it's never really caused an issue. It's kinda odd that it's such an apparently controversial thing in the US.


    (After typing that out I'm not 100% sure any more that age ratings are legally enforced in the UK or if it's just a voluntary policy that everywhere abides by, or if it even exists at all. I'm fairly sure it exists...)
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    Last I checked age ratings are enforced in the UK, and items that are refused classification can not be sold.

    For the US it's the entire free speech thing. The only thing that we bar from minors is porn (because we have a serious hang up over sex), and even there I have issues with it. Our government doesn't have the right to censorship, it's why public libraries can't ban books. It's why the MPAA and ESRB's ratings are industry guidelines, not laws. It's why the Comic Book Code existed.

    Why we care is because we (as a nation) put a lot of faith in our constitution and it's amendments.

    As for Whacko Jacko:
    Yah, he's an interesting person. He is far from stupid. He was active in the civil rights movement. Etc etc etc.

    However, his views and methodology for limiting the sale of games to minors was counterproductive. In this interview he emphasizes industry regulation (something I support), however his acts previously were all focused around banning the sale of games to minors (via proposed laws), suing video game companies in fairly frivolous ways, and being a talking head spouting drivel whenever a minor did something violent (my favorite was probably watching him after the V-Tech killings, instantly jumping on it as a way to push his agenda, only for everything he said to prove to be 100% BS).

    He has some lines that I call BS on. He tries to make himself a victim of Take-Two in terms of his disbarment. The bar association wouldn't have disbarred him if there wasn't a good reason, and he supplied all those reasons himself. He also talks about how he has always wanted it to be industry regulated, but no one has ever actually seen that side of him, we have all seen the other side. He claims that 7 years ago it was common for big chain retailers to sell age rated games to minors (I know that all the big retailers had the same rules they have today, and that they did have a policy of carding minors back then).

    Really, I suspect that being disbarred was a wake up call to him, and he might understand that his previous antics just didn't fly. We will see how he acts.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    Oh JJ eh? He's become one of those vocalist guys that give the industry a bad name. /ignore.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1798634:date=Sep 15 2010, 02:19 AM:name=Talesin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talesin @ Sep 15 2010, 02:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1798634"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The question is, Gen 1, 2 or 3 SegaCD? Mine (and the 32X, and the SMS adapter) are G1. <3 Shining Force CD. Hoping that Sega brings THAT series to Steam ASAP... even if I could forgive leaving out Shining in the Darkness due to lack of auto-map.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I can't say for sure but it seems SEGA are milking everything MegaDrive for cash monies in the form of rom ports. I would not doubt that SITD is not far off. It's in Sega Mega Drive Ultimate Collection on consoles for a start. And they have a web portal for some MD games (with ads) plus certain MD collections on Steam right now.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1798068:date=Sep 9 2010, 05:45 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Sep 9 2010, 05:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1798068"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah and Mafia/GTA let's you play as a murderous gangstah... Heck even Mario kills all sorts of creatures!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Erm. Mario vs. GTA. I'm not sure you exactly grasp the concept. Mario doesn't 'kill' anything. It's never referred to in the game as 'killing'; simply stomping.

    Mario is a weak basis for argument in this case.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1799057:date=Sep 19 2010, 08:19 AM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Crispy @ Sep 19 2010, 08:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1799057"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Erm. Mario vs. GTA. I'm not sure you exactly grasp the concept. Mario doesn't 'kill' anything. It's never referred to in the game as 'killing'; simply stomping.

    Mario is a weak basis for argument in this case.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    He pops a lot of shrooms, though.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited September 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1799057:date=Sep 19 2010, 07:19 AM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Crispy @ Sep 19 2010, 07:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1799057"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Erm. Mario vs. GTA. I'm not sure you exactly grasp the concept. Mario doesn't 'kill' anything. It's never referred to in the game as 'killing'; simply stomping.

    Mario is a weak basis for argument in this case.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You have to buy a new sarcasm meter there Crispy <img src="http://members.home.nl/m.borgman/ns-forum/smileys/wtf.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />


    But let's analyze Mario without sarcasm for a little bit shall we. He and his brother burn, freeze and throw tools at enemies to make them "go away". You can also push them into a burning lava pit/endless pit of doom (King Koopa hates them for this) . I'm sure being squashed by a fat plumber isn't all that good for your overall health, what with the breaking/squashing of all your bones/organs. Not to mention, he steals and uses shells to slam them into the rest to crush them. And of course not to forget Yoshi, who actually devours and digests enemies!

    Their arch-rival isn't even that violent, he just destroys robots to free his forest buddies, yes Sonic has Mario beat for a game without violence!

    Mario analyzed is pretty damn violent, it seems <img src="http://members.home.nl/m.borgman/ns-forum/smileys/tongue.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" /> Well that wasn't entirely without sarcasm, oh well...
  • RetalesRetales Panigg cultist Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19180Members
    Yay, <a href="http://www.ripten.com/2010/10/05/jack-thompson-claims-victory-in-medal-of-honor-debate-says-gamers-can-go-to-hell-getsome/" target="_blank">Jack Thompson won</a> and you can go to hell!
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