Instead of Redemption

Tig

<div class="IPBDescription">new MC ability</div>Posted this in another thread because people didn't want to have alien commander redemption since the onos is going to be so powerful (seemingly):

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i have another idea. what if... and bear with me... we take web away from gorges (since they actually plant the movement chambers) and replace redeem with a kharaa player controlled MC timed, on-use, ability that AOE web snared all marines in place for 3 seconds and halted shooting for 1 second? the graphic was a simple particle effect stream, right? just multiply that by 30 in all directions (cater to the normal direction). like spiders moving through webs faster than flies. but for a short period and an even shorter offensive pause. usable every 2 minute and at a cost of 10 res.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Harimau

Is this based on the idea that there will not be redemption <b>at all</b>? I don't care either way, tbh, but I do think that alien commander redemption could work. Sorry to sidetrack your thread that way. Also, now that I look at it, I don't really see how this is a replacement of Redemption.

Racer1

One way I have seen redemption in other games would be to allow the player to activate an ability to turn back time, with regards to their health and other attributes (and sometimes even their location) -- going back to what it was around 3-5 seconds ago.

RobB

Redemptio almost never proc'ed when you needed it. Except you wouldve survived the pinch you jumped into anyway. Or when a gorge was healing you. And died because you "jumped" back.

Tig

<!--quoteo(post=1800135:date=Sep 28 2010, 11:56 AM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ Sep 28 2010, 11:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1800135"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is this based on the idea that there will not be redemption <b>at all</b>? I don't care either way, tbh, but I do think that alien commander redemption could work. Sorry to sidetrack your thread that way. Also, now that I look at it, I don't really see how this is a replacement of Redemption.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

the original thread was redemption as the alien commander's movement chamber activated ability. so it is in replace of that. instead of redeeming like a team beacon or individual beacon, leave that to the marines and instead have a different movement chamber ability. so a gorge or alien commander can click the movement chamber (called a Shift) and shoot out webs to limit enemy movement.

so it's not really anything like redemption, just something new to replace it. leave redemption/beacon to marines. pretty sure you'll still be able to warp to hive through the movement chamber

LUSITANER

so it would spawn webs that prevents marines from going somewhere? sounds nice

Tig

<!--quoteo(post=1800158:date=Sep 28 2010, 03:18 PM:name=LUSITANER)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LUSITANER @ Sep 28 2010, 03:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1800158"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->so it would spawn webs that prevents marines from going somewhere? sounds nice<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

yeah but you'd still be able to shoot (well not for 1 second), and it wouldn't last long, just a quick, 2 second "stop moving for a sec while i get a bite off" type impairment.

RobB

redemption replace idea: mesh bomb.
when something dies with this upgrade, the dead body shoots out a couple of strings of web.
total amount depending on creature mass (onos has more than a skulk or gorge).

or babblers. we all love babblers, right?

Tig

<!--quoteo(post=1800251:date=Sep 29 2010, 09:12 AM:name=RobB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RobB @ Sep 29 2010, 09:12 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1800251"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->redemption replace idea: mesh bomb.
when something dies with this upgrade, the dead body shoots out a couple of strings of web.
total amount depending on creature mass (onos has more than a skulk or gorge).

or babblers. we all love babblers, right?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

i like both of those ideas. but instead of your body exploding into babblers, make it the redemption replacement upgrade for skulks. causes parasited marines to explode upon death into 2 or 3 babblers which will then attack nearby marines.