Bug: Turrets cost personal plasma not team
Plasma
Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
I noticed as commander that when I bought a turret, it cost 10 (or 20, I forget) plasma from my own personal amount - not the team's amount.
This mean't I would see 'Turret' as being selectable but it would then say not enough resources (as I only had like 2 plasma in my personal reserve).
There may be other items that are also broken in this way that I have not noticed.
This mean't I would see 'Turret' as being selectable but it would then say not enough resources (as I only had like 2 plasma in my personal reserve).
There may be other items that are also broken in this way that I have not noticed.
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I was playing as commander on Rockdown today and doing a good job.
Held marine base, west, and north hive. We were pushing clockwise round the map - and I knew marine base was going to be vulnerable.
In marine base I had:
# 6 sentries facing down corridor right
# 1 sentry facing left
# 1 sentry facing into base on top of boxes
# 2 more to cover the spawn area
10 sentries to cover marine base... still did not stop a Skulk from attacking the most heavily guarded entrance to the base, and eating everything. So we kept pushing clockwise, and they did the same. Big stalemate.
The two big issues at the moment are ineffective sentry spam/ no easy way to destroy alien structures.
4 sentries on left side, 4 on right. 2 more in the middle. Skulks can dodge leaping. 2 Fades take 2 sentries like nothing.
Well, if you give the sentries more power then it will become a lock down on marine start.
Agreed.
I also had to take a second look as to why I couldn't get a MAC when I first started playing, then noticed the 'energy' counter on the CC itself.
These need to be separate icons or something. Plus, why do I need to spend my personal amount of resources when it should be the team's.
Also, there _IS A BUG_ regardless: The UI is showing turrets as available if the team has enough resources, even when the current cost at the moment is to my own resource amount.
Yeah, that is a nice easy setup... but not really possible at marine start. Ideally you have a situation where 4 would completely cover a room... problem is that the rooms are never square (so you can not have all angles covered) and you can hide behind props.
It makes sneaking up on sentries far too easy.
A sentry cap/expensive sentries would actually make them a useful asset if they were made a lot more powerful.
2 should easily shred any alien that has to make it more than 5 meters until it gets behind them.
The nice thing about whip + crag set up is that they work well together. You understand them - strategically speaking...
2 Whips with a crag in the rear (that are mature) will pretty much stop any marine from passing. Any that do try it on will be killed.
If they are not mature then you can actually get past them with a sprint, which is cool.
Marines understand this, and so does the alien commander.
Currently the marine sentry is not useful, and they become spam rather than something 'really cool' that can hammer the alien team if they think they can just run in the front door.
You end up being really careful with placement... but whatever you do the aliens can always get to them, and there is no penalty - so you end up spamming as many as possible in smart locations. No matter how much you criticise my commanding skills - you should not be able to run at 6 sentries from 10m away and make it past them.
UWE said they wanted to create lines that are pushed back and forth through the level - this is only really happening for aliens at the moment. As soon as marines have half the map you have to keep running back to take out skulks who have found a safe spot and are taking out your whole base. Or a Lerk in a vent that can take out all your sentries in 2 mins because they can't hit it.
I stopped building them because of this. You need 5+ per tech node to have adequate coverage, which leads to terrible lag. I'd rather have a 360 deg, low DPS, high spinup time weapon (like the whip) than the current sentries.
I was playing as commander on Rockdown today and doing a good job.
Held marine base, west, and north hive. We were pushing clockwise round the map - and I knew marine base was going to be vulnerable.
In marine base I had:
# 6 sentries facing down corridor right
# 1 sentry facing left
# 1 sentry facing into base on top of boxes
# 2 more to cover the spawn area
10 sentries to cover marine base... still did not stop a Skulk from attacking the most heavily guarded entrance to the base, and eating everything. So we kept pushing clockwise, and they did the same. Big stalemate.
The two big issues at the moment are ineffective sentry spam/ no easy way to destroy alien structures.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you place 10 to 1 place in unstable alpha you have already failed, twice.
yeah. it takes too much time and res to set up a proper turret farm.
Ha, yeah... if it was not for the fact that the server was running fine.
I think it is something to do with the client, because some games it is incredibly laggy with a few structures. Where as others, you can spam a load and not much changes.
As a matter of fact, whenever there seems to be server load... at least someone has a bad ping (300+).
The turrets were not all facing one direction, only 6 of them. The others were covering all over areas.
Everyone knows it is an impossibility to cover the marine spawn effectively... because you can either hide behind a prop/building or just out of FOV.
As Lerk you can sit in any base and just take out as many structures as you like before marines get wise.