IndieDB- Most Innovative GOTY Award

_Thresh__Thresh_ Join Date: 2008-01-11 Member: 63385Members
edited December 2010 in NS2 General Discussion
released seconds ago! kudos winner... no big surprise

<a href="http://www.indiedb.com/features/editors-choice-most-innovative-2010" target="_blank">http://www.indiedb.com/features/editors-ch...innovative-2010</a>

EDIT: and looks like wolfire picked up 1/4 developer of the year awards.
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1816817:date=Dec 17 2010, 05:54 PM:name=_Thresh_)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (_Thresh_ @ Dec 17 2010, 05:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816817"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->released seconds ago! kudos winner... no big surprise

    <a href="http://www.indiedb.com/features/editors-choice-most-innovative-2010" target="_blank">http://www.indiedb.com/features/editors-ch...innovative-2010</a>

    EDIT: and looks like wolfire picked up 1/4 developer of the year awards.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Next is Minecraft getting best multiplayer, then art, then singleplayer. You know how it goes. :V
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  • RuntehRunteh Join Date: 2010-06-26 Member: 72163Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    To be fair, Minecraft is original. RTS/FPS has been around for a while...

    They still have to announce all the best art awards, etc, etc... I am pretty sure NS2 will get best upcoming. They are releasing an award every day until Christmas yeah?
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  • ASnogarDASnogarD Join Date: 2003-10-24 Member: 21894Members
    Minecraft aint original..its just the most well known of the attempts... see Infiniminer for the original attempt.
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  • RuntehRunteh Join Date: 2010-06-26 Member: 72163Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Yeah, in 2009. That is not long for a sub genre, let alone a genre.

    RTS/FPS has been around for over a decade.
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  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Sorry but Minecraft is a no-brainer winner for this category, it would be silly for it to go to anyone else.
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    FPS and RTS are sort of well established, most of the mechanics in NS2 are fairly common, it's just unusual for games to use them at the same time. If anything the most unusual part of NS is the aliens vs marines combat, ranged vs melee is fairly uncommon in competitive multiplayer.

    Can't really think of any widely successful block building games though.
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  • ZenoZeno Join Date: 2007-09-05 Member: 62183Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1816836:date=Dec 18 2010, 01:57 AM:name=Chris0132)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chris0132 @ Dec 18 2010, 01:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816836"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can't really think of any widely successful block building games though.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There was once a game that had the russian korobeiniki/ korobushka as it's title song, just forgot it's name .... <_< >_>

    btw: what the hell is minecraft? is it free? or do i really have to pay for this pixel pulp?
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  • Raza.Raza. Join Date: 2004-01-24 Member: 25663Members, Constellation
    Well, NS2 couldn't win it because all the elements were already in NS1. :P

    I'm still questioning Minecraft's innovativeness. Taking and placing blocks can't be the pinnacle of the entire indie scene, can it?
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  • ASnogarDASnogarD Join Date: 2003-10-24 Member: 21894Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1816839:date=Dec 18 2010, 12:03 AM:name=Zeno)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zeno @ Dec 18 2010, 12:03 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816839"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There was once a game that had the russian korobeiniki/ korobushka as it's title song, just forgot it's name .... <_< >_>

    btw: what the hell is minecraft? is it free? or do i really have to pay for this pixel pulp?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    IF your are being serious, Minecraft is not free but worth the asking price ..especially if you buy before the 20th... its like the ultimate in craft your own base to survive, to make better stuffs , to keep the bad guys away... yeah its also pretty vague as well.
    I spent too much time building up my little safehouse complete with garden and harbour for my leetle boat :P

    If you ask me though the dev of Minecraft , notch is asking for trouble...all it will take to topple him is a HD / OpenGL version of Minecraft and his game is toast.
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    edited December 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1816840:date=Dec 18 2010, 12:07 AM:name=Raza.)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Raza. @ Dec 18 2010, 12:07 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816840"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well, NS2 couldn't win it because all the elements were already in NS1. :P

    I'm still questioning Minecraft's innovativeness. Taking and placing blocks can't be the pinnacle of the entire indie scene, can it?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It is easily the first successful game to do it.

    The principle is obviously just lego, but nobody has really been able to incorporate it well into video games.

    The simplicity of the idea is not really a downside, portal after all is simply 'you have a teleporter gun'.

    Just because it can be summed up easily doesn't mean it doesn't have depth. In fact generally being able to sum it up simply and it having depth is a good indictor of success.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited December 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1816854:date=Dec 18 2010, 12:33 AM:name=Chris0132)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chris0132 @ Dec 18 2010, 12:33 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816854"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It is easily the first successful game to do it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Same thing could be said for Portal :P





    @minecraft, it has as much depth as the player playing it (which varies widely :P)
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  • yourbonesakinyourbonesakin Join Date: 2005-08-06 Member: 57682Members
    Lol. Minecraft is not innovative. Markus Piersson (the creator of Minecraft) has stated he took the ideas from dwarf fortress, infiniminer and I think one other game to combine into Minecraft.

    And everyone has heard of dwarf fortress. Infiniminer was already around and Markus made a new version of it. That's it.

    But NS2 is also not innovative.... considering NS1 came out in 2002 and last I checked the games have pretty similar concepts ^^.

    The award isn't something to get too excited over, though it is interesting.
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  • WhiteZeroWhiteZero That Guy Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29511Members, Constellation
    edited December 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1816830:date=Dec 17 2010, 05:28 PM:name=ASnogarD)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASnogarD @ Dec 17 2010, 05:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816830"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Minecraft aint original..its just the most well known of the attempts... see Infiniminer for the original attempt.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Kind of like saying no FPS has been original since Wolf3D.

    "Awww man, look! You run around with a gun in a 1st person perspective! What a rip off... no originality!"
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  • ASnogarDASnogarD Join Date: 2003-10-24 Member: 21894Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1816874:date=Dec 18 2010, 01:34 AM:name=WhiteZero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Dec 18 2010, 01:34 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816874"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Kind of like saying no FPS has been original since Wolf3D.

    "Awww man, look! You run around with a gun in a 1st person perspective! What a rip off... no originality!"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    So because Doom did it better than Wolf3D later, its ok to ignore Wolfs achievements ? Shall we now say COD: Black ops is the epitome of orgininality as it does 3D FPS best.... according to sales, not me...I havent touch COD since 4 ( pre MW2 ).
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  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    edited December 2010
    What WhiteZero said.

    Minecraft may not be the inventor of the genre, but it is a pioneer. And it is a pioneer because it took an innovative concept (<i>regardless of whether the developers themselves innovated</i>), did it <b>right</b> and found appropriately wide success: The core concept behind Minecraft is in fact innovative.

    In the case of NS: consider Tremulous. Does that make NS any less innovative?
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  • thecowsaysmoothecowsaysmoo Join Date: 2008-02-02 Member: 63557Members
    pretty cheesy, mine as well have made it the minecraft awards 2010....Why would the editors pick the same game that is obviously going to win all the voter awards....
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  • TigTig Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71674Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    <!--quoteo(post=1816889:date=Dec 17 2010, 09:40 PM:name=ASnogarD)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASnogarD @ Dec 17 2010, 09:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816889"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So because Doom did it better than Wolf3D later, its ok to ignore Wolfs achievements ? Shall we now say COD: Black ops is the epitome of orgininality as it does 3D FPS best.... according to sales, not me...I havent touch COD since 4 ( pre MW2 ).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    zombies is fun dude.
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  • cmc5788cmc5788 Join Date: 2009-10-06 Member: 68959Members
    Minecraft is innovative. Innovation is, in large part, taking inspiration from various sources and combining it into something new. Books and movies do this too. Limiting your definition of "innovation" to "the first in a genre" is really stupid.
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  • ASnogarDASnogarD Join Date: 2003-10-24 Member: 21894Members
    edited December 2010
    Theres true difference between first to do and first to define... like Dune 2 was the first to truely define RTS... but there was RTS style game prior to Dune 2 like Art of War and Dune 1 even had some strat like mechanisms... but ask most players and its C&C or WC that did define RTS.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1816874:date=Dec 18 2010, 01:34 AM:name=WhiteZero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Dec 18 2010, 01:34 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816874"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Kind of like saying no FPS has been original since Wolf3D.

    "Awww man, look! You run around with a gun in a 1st person perspective! What a rip off... no originality!"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'll see your Wolf3D and first will raise you <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catacomb_3-D" target="_blank">Catacomb Abyss</a> and then will squash your juvenile game with both <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maze_War" target="_blank">Mazewar</a> and probably it's older brother <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spasim" target="_blank">Spasim </a>
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  • McGlaspieMcGlaspie www.team156.com Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 73044Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Squad Five Gold, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Gold, Subnautica Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1816930:date=Dec 17 2010, 11:18 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Dec 17 2010, 11:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816930"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'll see your Wolf3D and first will raise you <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catacomb_3-D" target="_blank">Catacomb Abyss</a> and then will squash your juvenile game with both <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maze_War" target="_blank">Mazewar</a> and probably it's older brother <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spasim" target="_blank">Spasim </a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->LOL! Nice one Kouji, that made me laugh.
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