Turrets now cost 20 team carbon (different from b160)

Plasma

Just an FYI, with the redesign of the marine hud, the b161 patch changed it so turrets cost 20 team carbon instead of 20 personal carbon like b160.

ScardyBob

Drop sentries down to 5 carbon and it will be fine. Right now sentries cost the same as a cs and ip, so it doesn't make sense to build them.

PsiWarp

20 Carbon is really pushing it, I think 10 Carbon should do it. Plasma was an interesting move, but confusing (why should standard perimeter defense come from a Marine's own resource pool anyway lol).

I've also noticed a lot of people are calling Carbon "team carbon" and Plasma "personal carbon". Knowing proper terms just take time I guess :P

Feha

Was it not plasma? I am pretty sure it was :S.

ScardyBob

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It was.

B160: Sentry = 20 plasma (from commander's pool)
B161: Sentry = 20 carbon

They changed it to what it used to be (carbon), which was a good move, but kept the same cost, which was a bad move.

TrC

Turrets are not supposed to be the ultimate defense no one can break, at the moment well placed turret is worth its cost.

MOOtant

20 carbon is perfect, rines have much better aim with LMG now.

Plasma

Definitely need to lower how much res it takes to buy turrets; as others mentioned, when you have a choice between a turret and something else like an IP/armory/res node/etc its a no brainer to pick the other.

Turrets also need to do a 360degree sweep, perhaps as an upgrade.

Feha

I got confused by this post:
<!--quoteo(post=1823585:date=Jan 12 2011, 04:28 PM:name=Plasma)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Plasma @ Jan 12 2011, 04:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1823585"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just an FYI, with the redesign of the marine hud, the b161 patch changed it so turrets cost 20 team carbon instead of 20 <b>personal carbon</b> like b160.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

afaik only plasma is a personal resoruce, and carbon is team resource, while I also seen posts talking about a team pool of plasma, not carbon.
Made me figure that this team plasma I heard of must be what he meant :P.

Plasma

Yeah your probably right, I keep forgetting which is which :)